War in Ukraine

[NorthDallas40]

Lol. More insults huh. It was you and your fellow jobbers that claimed we defeated the Taliban. It's obvious the we didn't defeat them. So can you all admit you wrong by saying that?

Afghanistan is a country of 38 million people. It's hard to get everyone to accept western ideals and culture. Clearly many people living there wanted no part of that.

We did defeat the Taliban on the field smooth brain. Regardless of how you stooges parse it. But we cannot eradicate the ideology behind them unless we kill them all which we were not going to do.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Hmmm... then why did 3elensky (allegedly) visit there in the heat of the battle?

Ukraine war: Volodymyr Zelensky visits front-line city of Bakhmut

Who said he visited “in the heat of battle” Moe? It’s still the front lines but in the video I didn’t see anyone shooting at that moment did you? That’s a pretty stupid hot take for you, something I’d expect out of Curly.

And Bakhmut isn’t strategically important that anyone other than you stooges csn tell Moe.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[evillawyer]

Please give Ukraine some reapers.

 

[evillawyer]

One more 4th and 10 run up the middle in Bakhmut with Wagner's convicts should do it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Well thank you for letting us know that NATO is just a big waste of time and money. Glad we agree on something.

You should probably tell your idiot leader Pootin to stop recruiting for them then huh Curly?

 

[NorthDallas40]

She should ask for an audit

There should be periodic audits regardless. Hell that’s part of their oversight duty.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I never said we didn't loose those wars. We absolutely lost those wars, we didn't lose the fights.

OK. So?

To be clear so that we can move on from this:
1. You admit we lost the wars
2. You believe that we won most of the battles

Is this what you are saying?

 

[happy-go_vol]

Business is booming!

The invitation said the event was “supported by” Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, Pratty & Whitney, and Lockheed Martin — their logos emblazoned on the invite, reportedly prompting some observers to “laugh out loud.”​

This DC party invite shows all the money to be made off the Ukraine war

It's obvious I need to get a job with the fed gov

 

[happy-go_vol]

There should be periodic audits regardless. Hell that’s part of their oversight duty.

Audits? Are you a homophobe?

 

[NorthDallas40]

I think the idea is to draw europe into the war while the us pulls back with the hope that trump part 2 will rejoin the war on the side of russia in a couple of years. Of course a weak target would be tempting if the republicans manage to retake control of their party by the next election.

Lol!

 

[hog88]

OK. So?

To be clear so that we can move on from this:
1. You admit we lost the wars
2. You believe that we won most of the battles

Is this what you are saying?

It's fact that we won the vast majority of the battles, the wars were lost by the decisions of politicians.

 

[DonjoVol]

No, not wrong at all. We defeated the Taliban, drove them out of Afghanistan for the most part but our political apparatus allowed them to exist and prosper in Pakistan.

So we never defeated them. Glad you cleared that up for us.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Not a conspiracy. It happened. Proof has already been provided.

The proof shows that Yanukovych was removed by their parliament as per their constitution. The proof further shows he is a Pootin lapdog and resides where he is close by for his master’s beckon call.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Audits? Are you a homophobe?

It’s part of their duty. In fact the ONLY job they have to do each year is pass the fiscal budget. And with throwing money like that around it absolutely should be tracked. The military nut being able to reconcile a $2T audit error only adds fuel to that argument

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

And plenty of articles have been put up showing there’s absolutely no reason to expend this kind of effort in Bakhmut it has no significance it’s just a pissing contest. That Russia is losing.

So are they losing or is it a Pyrrhic victory? And why all of these headlines and visits by 3elensky over a stretegically insignificant town?

Analysis: Russia's grim battle for Bakhmut may yield pyrrhic victory at best

Gaining control of the city, with a pre-war population of 70-80,000 that has shrunk to close to 10,000, could give Russia a stepping stone to advance on two bigger cities - Kramatorsk and Sloviansk.

It would also deprive Ukraine of a useful road and rail supply line intersection.

 

[NorthDallas40]

So we never defeated them. Glad you cleared that up for us.

Killed every one we could find Curly. Bit unlike your Vatnik homeboys we wouldn’t kill their kids.

 

[happy-go_vol]

Very interesting report. Soon is thise just lying and all he says is just Russian lies?

 

[NorthDallas40]

So are they losing or is it a Pyrrhic victory? And why all of these headlines and visits by 3elensky over a stretegically insignificant town?

Analysis: Russia's grim battle for Bakhmut may yield pyrrhic victory at best

LMFAO now you’re trying to push a Pyrrhic victory over a meaningless town as a good thing, assuming they actually finally take it Moe?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

He had visited Kherson and Izyum also. All places of significant fighting. Which they all won too. But hey Pootin snuck into Belarus for two hours and quickly drove over a short piece of a bridge still in repair

 

[hog88]

So we never defeated them. Glad you cleared that up for us.

I wouldn't expect you to have the brain power to discern the difference.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It's fact that we won the vast majority of the battles, the wars were lost by the decisions of politicians.

I'm not sure what difference that makes. Again, this isn't about the troops or the people fighting. It is about the very people that you accuse of losing the wars getting us into those wars in the first place.

So again, one last time, so that we can end this:
We won a bunch of battles in these wars, but lost all of them.

Is this basically what we can agree on so we can move on to something else?

 

[DonjoVol]

It's fact that we won the vast majority of the battles, the wars were lost by the decisions of politicians.

The fact remains we didn't win these wars and many people were displaced and forced to leave their homelands.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I wouldn't expect you to have the brain power to discern the difference.

He really doesn’t.

 

[DonjoVol]

I wouldn't expect you to have the brain power to discern the difference.

If we truly defeated them then they never would have returned back to power. Apparently your brain is having trouble processing this basic fact.

 

[hog88]

I'm not sure what difference that makes. Again, this isn't about the troops or the people fighting. It is about the very people that you accuse of losing the wars getting us into those wars in the first place.

So again, one last time, so that we can end this:
We won a bunch of battles in these wars, but lost all of them.

Is this basically what we can agree on so we can move on to something else?

It does make a difference. From top to bottom the Russian military is inept and ill equipped, they couldn't defeat a peer or even near peer regardless of what their civilian leadership decided (minus nukes).