War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
I actually agree with you on this. It is a false equivalence. At least Russia intervened on a crisis on their own border with people that identified as Russian people.

The US and UK intervening in Serbia is obviously a different story.
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Right, the fact that Alexander Boradai, Igor Girkin, Pavel Gubarev, and Arsen 'Motorola' Pavlov are/were all Russian nationals who headed up the original "DPR" has zero significance of course.

Everyone knows that all true 'separatist movements' are created and led by foreign nationals when they spring up out of the ether.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You guys need to get off of this Budapest Memorandum nonsense. It’s a dead end. Besides, Ukraine didn't have control of the Soviet nukes on their soil anymore than Turkiye has control of the US nukes there.
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Then why did Russia sign the document? Are they just morons and suck at negotiations Moe?
 
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DonjoVol said:
Yeah. You and your pals continue to make fools of yourselves regarding this proxy war.
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We’ve continually called it a proxy war for the US. That’s what it is. Unlike what it is for your country Curly. An actual war they the f$&@ed up and miscalculated on and now have the entire western societies arming their opponent to help them kick their invading asses 🤡
 
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DonjoVol said:
Yeah. You and your pals continue to make fools of yourselves regarding this proxy war.
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there wouldn't even be the possibility of a proxy war if Russia, (as they asserted over and over and over that they weren't going to) hadn't invaded. At any point over the last year, it could be over at any moment, and still could.
 
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apevol said:
there wouldn't even be the possibility of a proxy war if Russia, (as they asserted over and over and over that they weren't going to) hadn't invaded. At any point over the last year, it could be over at any moment, and still could.
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It will be over when Russia and Ukraine both come to the table for negotiations and decide its over.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
It’s hilarious as hell. One deflection point to another. Then contradicting themselves and quickly backtracking (… the Budapest Memorandum is irrelevant and non binding… even though Russia signed it) 😂
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You're one to talk about moving from one deflection point to another lol
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
We’ve continually called it a proxy war for the US. That’s what it is. Unlike what it is for your country Curly. An actual war they the f$&@ed up and miscalculated on and now have the entire western societies arming their opponent to help them kick their invading asses 🤡
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Those "western societies" are wasting time, money, and equipment supporting this proxy war. It's between Russia and Ukraine. Plus according to you and some others in this thread is that Russia's military is already incompetent. Therefore it's only common sense to let Ukraine handle them on their own Proctor.

Let's fix the problems we have here in the U.S. first before sending another penny to Ukraine.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Those "western societies" are wasting time, money, and equipment supporting this proxy war. It's between Russia and Ukraine. Plus according to you and some others in this thread is that Russia's military is already incompetent. Therefore it's only common sense to let Ukraine handle them on their own Proctor.

Let's fix the problems we have here in the U.S. first before sending another penny to Ukraine.
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The US and UK are obligated to assist based on the Budapest Memorandum. Yes as much as you idiotic shills try to deflect away from that document it is still binding. Well… not on Russia of course they shredded it along with every other document they signed related to Ukraine. 🤡
 
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So let me get this straight. Russia has supposedly lost over 100K troops, running out of missiles, their equipment being destroyed left and right, military is incompetent, Ukrainians are whooping their butt all over the battlefield and we still need to send billions of dollars to Ukraine. Just want to make sure I'm understanding the Ukrainiac logic in this thread.
 
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DonjoVol said:
So let me get this straight. Russia has supposedly lost over 100K troops, running out of missiles, their equipment being destroyed left and right, military is incompetent, Ukrainians are whooping their butt all over the battlefield and we still need to send billions of dollars to Ukraine. Just want to make sure I'm understanding the Ukrainiac logic in this thread.
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  1. The team that makes the fewest mistakes will win.
  2. Play for and make the breaks. When one comes your way—SCORE.
  3. If at first the game—or the breaks—go against you, don’t let up . . . put on more steam.
  4. Protect our kickers, our QB, our lead and our ball game.
  5. Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle for this is the WINNING EDGE.
  6. Press the kicking game. Here is where the breaks are made.
  7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there for 60 minutes.
 
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