War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
What is despotic about China not wanting a subversive delegation from entering their soil? The US or any other country would want that either.

And again... business interests. Those businesses should have kept manufacturing here at home... or work to bring it back home. But in no way is it remotely justifiable to start a war.
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LMFAO 😂🤡
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
What is despotic about China not wanting a subversive delegation from entering their soil? The US or any other country would want that either.

And again... business interests. Those businesses should have kept manufacturing here at home... or work to bring it back home. But in no way is it remotely justifiable to start a war.
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“Their soil”? Just like Ukraine, Taiwan is a sovereign country.
 
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China is in big, big, trouble even without a war. In a decade or two they will really start feeling the sting of The U.S. decoupling (a bi-partisan issue), as well as their aging population. This is their peak. They are good at memorizing things, copying things, but terrible at innovation. They do not have the technology to grow and survive as an economic or military super power in the future. They also import a whole bunch of their food. Xi also didn't expect to see the international community respond to help Ukraine the way they did. He knows that Taiwan is much more important to the international community than Ukraine is....much more important. This, and the fact that Taiwan is surrounded by a giant moat makes his dream of ever taking Taiwan by force a nearly impossible feat now, and even attempting to do so could spell complete disaster for the Chinese people. Not just economically, not just militarily, but socially as well when countries place embargoes on food shipments if this is tried.
 
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volgr said:
Doesnt really matter whether we recognize them or not. It matters if China recognizes them.
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Nixon allowed himself to be seduced by the murderous regime and the numerous US business interests that saw an immense untapped market in China. They all severely underestimated the ruthlessness of the ChiComs. Had we refused to adopt the 1 China policy in 1972 there was absolutely nothing the Chinese could have done.
 
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norrislakevol said:
China is in big, big, trouble even without a war. In a decade or two they will really start feeling the sting of The U.S. decoupling (a bi-partisan issue), as well as their aging population. This is their peak. They are good at memorizing things, coping things, but terrible at innovation. They do not have the technology to grow and survive as an economic or military super power in the future. They also import a whole bunch of their food. Xi also didn't expect to see the international community respond to help Ukraine the way they did. He knows that Taiwan is much more important to the international community than Ukraine is....much more important. This, and the fact that Taiwan is surrounded by a giant moat makes his dream of ever taking Taiwan by force a nearly impossible feat now, and even attempting to do so could spell complete disaster for the Chinese people. Not just economically, not just militarily, but socially as well when countries place embargoes on food shipments if this is tried.
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China has time on their side. In 20 years, this will be resolved with peaceful unification. The elections in Taiwan in 2024will tell the story.
 
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