War in Ukraine

[BeardedVol]

Debaltseve is in Donetsk? WTF are you talking about? Why would the need to "capture" something that is in their territory? Why would the Kyiv regime still be fighting for it and not withdrawing.

And I like how you cleverly insert Debaltseve in some of you claims because it is sandwiched in between Minsk I and Minsk II.

Are you really this ignorant of the subject you are attempting to argue?
The Battle of Debaltseve: a Hybrid Army in a Classic Battle of Encirclement | Small Wars Journal

 

[NorthDallas40]

Are you really this ignorant of the subject you are attempting to argue?
The Battle of Debaltseve: a Hybrid Army in a Classic Battle of Encirclement | Small Wars Journal

I’ll answer. Yes he only knows what’s been approved for distribution by the troll farm employer.

 

[BeardedVol]

But is that possible?

The longer this goes on, the worse it gets for Russia.

 

[volgr]

I don't know they pretty much leveled Grozny to suppress the Chechen uprisings. Funny independence is okay in Ukraine but not in Russia.

As you say, rebellion has consequences. Which is true historically, but you seem to pick and choose which rebellion should have consequences.

 

[volgr]

So give the bully 1/2 of your lunch money to avoid the fight?

I thought you didnt buy the western propaganda? You need to be more honest with yourself.

 

[Burhead]

Debaltseve is in Donetsk? WTF are you talking about? Why would the need to "capture" something that is in their territory? Why would the Kyiv regime still be fighting for it and not withdrawing.

And I like how you cleverly insert Debaltseve in some of you claims because it is sandwiched in between Minsk I and Minsk II.

Clearly you didn't bother reading the Minsk II agreement. The cease fire was supposed to start on 2/15 and the DNR/LNR kept fighting up until the 20th claiming Debaltseve wasn't apart of the agreement.

 

[volgr]

Russians can rebel at any time and I would fully support them doing so.

This is them rebelling, against the unipolar western death cult world order that continues to constantly provoke and agitate.

 

[hog88]

I thought you didnt buy the western propaganda? You need to be more honest with yourself.

I am honest with myself and the belligerent bully in this situation is Russia. There is no question about that. Russia was never threatened nor was Ukraine ever a threat.

 

[volgr]

Donbas would have still been a part of Ukraine. They would have lost Crimea. That deal today is far better than the deal they are going to get later on.

Which you and I said a year ago when these yahoos were pushing Ukraine to further escalate this conflict instead of seeking peace.

 

[hog88]

This is them rebelling, against the unipolar western death cult world order that continues to constantly provoke and agitate.

Nobody agitated or provoked the Russians. They were under no threat or danger from Ukraine.

 

[volgr]

I am honest with myself and the belligerent bully in this situation is Russia. There is no question about that. Russia was never threatened nor was Ukraine ever a threat.

Well, you and I will strongly disagree on whether Russia was threatened and neither of us will likely change our mind.

 

[volgr]

Nobody agitated or provoked the Russians. They were under no threat or danger from Ukraine.

Maybe we can agree on this, the least threatened party in all of this is the US.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Well, you and I will strongly disagree on whether Russia was threatened and neither of us will likely change our mind.

And we’re going to continue to openly mock the absolute stupidity and hypocrisy in your stance.

 

[hog88]

Well, you and I will strongly disagree on whether Russia was threatened and neither of us will likely change our mind.

Thanks to NATO, Russia/USSR enjoyed it's longest ever time period without a major war due to foreign aggression or being invaded. So just how was Russia threatened?

 

[hog88]

Maybe we can agree on this, the least threatened party in all of this is the US.

Yes, I do agree with that. The only country that was threatened was Ukraine and the only country issuing threats was Russia.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Thanks to NATO Russia/USSR enjoyed it's longest ever time period without a major war due to foreign aggression or being invaded. So just how was Russia threatened?

And the bald dwarf rewarded NATO for their stabilizing influence by growing their membership!

 

[LouderVol]

Your own post gave it away. The map speaks for itself.

So except for Crimea they arent the majority in any region in question.....its almost as if when the borders were drawn they took that into consideration. And without doing some really dumb exclave nonsense there is no way you are going to get every little village where it "should" be.

 

[NorthDallas40]

So except for Crimea they arent the majority in any region in question.....its almost as if when the borders were drawn they took that into consideration. And without doing some really dumb exclave nonsense there is no way you are going to get every little village where it "should" be.

I wonder what could have been in Sevastopol that would result in such a large concentration of Russians? Ponder ponder…

 

[MontyPython]

Well, you and I will strongly disagree on whether Russia was threatened and neither of us will likely change our mind.

So Estonia and Latvia joined NATO in 2004.

Both of these countries physically border Russia.

So, riddle me this, Chuckles: How is it that Ukraine "threatened" Russia, yet Estonia and Latvia didn't?

 

[BeardedVol]

So Estonia and Latvia joined NATO in 2004.

Both of these countries physically border Russia.

So, riddle me this, Chuckles: How is it that Ukraine "threatened" Russia, yet Estonia and Latvia didn't?

I'm really looking forward to watching the mental gymnastics that will be employed in @volgr 's response.

 

[hog88]

So except for Crimea they arent the majority in any region in question.....its almost as if when the borders were drawn they took that into consideration. And without doing some really dumb exclave nonsense there is no way you are going to get every little village where it "should" be.

I still want to know what is an Ethnic Russian and how they are different than ethnic Ukrainians?

 

[Burhead]

I still want to know what is an Ethnic Russian and how they are different than ethnic Ukrainians?

It is going to blow their mind when they find out Russian Ukrainians are fighting against Russia.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I still want to know what is an Ethnic Russian and how they are different than ethnic Ukrainians?

I’m more interested in that idiotic Russian race these smooth brains kept bloviating over

 

[LouderVol]

Tried peace for 8 years and they never implemented Minsk I & II.

You are right the Russians never did

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]