War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
Ukraine is not only losing men at a high rate but they are losing equipment at an even higher rate. The West cant keep up supplies, as evidenced by the fact Ukraine's air defense is about gone. Now, they will receive more from the West but no one knows when. They have burned through not only their equipment but a good portion of NATO stockpile. To act like this isnt a huge win for Putin is ridiculous.

Ukraine is losing the capacity to wage war, which is why you see such lopsided casualty figures and they continue to get worse for Ukraine as the war continues.
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It's undeniable and unquestionable that Ukraine is more militarized today then they were a year ago and will be more closely aligned with the west than they've ever been for decades to come. Your assertion to the contrary is foolish. Admit it and save face, move on........or dig in and keep parroting the drivel about successful demilitarization above and prove yourself a fool.
 
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KB5252 said:
It's undeniable and unquestionable that Ukraine is more militarized today then they were a year ago and will be more closely aligned with the west than they've ever been for decades to come. Your assertion to the contrary is foolish. Admit it and save face, move on........or dig in and keep parroting the drivel about successful demilitarization above and prove yourself a fool.
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This is confession through projection, "Admit it and save face, move on........or dig in and keep parroting the drivel"

One would think after the leaks some of you would come around to the truth, but I see you are still staunchly rooted in the lie. All good. Keep sending thousand of Ukrainians to their death and justify it how you want. You're pathetic cowards.
 
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volgr said:
Russia is efficiently demilitarizing and denatzifying Ukraine.
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Demilitarizing NATO and US allies also.
The rumor is that all of the nonsense from the West about North Korea supplying weapons to Russia was an attempt to scare the South Koreans to give up more of their weapons to Ukraine. Now South Korea is grudgingly giving up half a million shells that will allegedly only go to replenish US stockpiles but not go to Ukraine... yeah, we'll see about that.
 
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volgr said:
This is confession through projection, "Admit it and save face, move on........or dig in and keep parroting the drivel"

One would think after the leaks some of you would come around to the truth, but I see you are still staunchly rooted in the lie. All good. Keep sending thousand of Ukrainians to their death and justify it how you want. You're pathetic cowards.
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Ukraine is fighting for their homeland. I'm sending no one. In fact it's Russia sending their sons to their deaths.

I see you stopped short in my quote, you can't refute my quote with facts. Ukraine is not less militarized today than it was a year ago, in fact is the exact opposite. It's a fact that you simply can't dodge.......

I fully expect you to retort with a movement of goalposts. (Edit: and I wasn't disappointed)
 
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AM64 said:
That worked so well in the later half of the 1930s.
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Again with this 1930s/Neville Chamberlain nonsense.

The ideology you have is that talking about peace is equivalent to appeasement. Sometimes, peace is just peace... where both sides come to a mutual understanding and each of the sides security concerns are respected and dealt with.

If peace talks = appeasement, then we would never be able to get anything done diplomatically.
 
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BreatheUT said:
For the record my opinions are neutral.

I think Russia needs to be pushed back, but I also think this is a strain on the US considering what The Weekend at Bernies stand-in has done to our economic standing. Something tells me there is a long game approach being played here by our adversaries. The US is providing much of the assistance to Ukraine while the countries that are most impacted by Russia's invasion are providing peanuts. I think other adversaries are gearing up for conflict while the decision makers over here has no idea what to do. They are too busy trying to figure out how to make the military more Woke and catering to transgenders.
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All of this could have easily been avoided if NATO would not have moved eastward starting in the late 1990s and if they would gave respected the security concerns of Russia... no different than we would expect them to respect our security concerns if the stationed troops and weapons in Cuba, Mexico or Nicaragua.

Just common sense...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Demilitarizing NATO and US allies also.
The rumor is that all of the nonsense from the West about North Korea supplying weapons to Russia was an attempt to scare the South Koreans to give up more of their weapons to Ukraine. Now South Korea is grudgingly giving up half a million shells that will allegedly only go to replenish US stockpiles but not go to Ukraine... yeah, we'll see about that.
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They could argue, eventually, a few years after the war ends, Ukraine could be more militarized than it was at the start of the war but there is no way one could argue that now. Ukraine's best trained fighting forces are mostly gone. Most of their equipment, gone. Currently, at best, they can send a group of mostly rubes who have been taken against their will and placed into military service to a western Country outside of Ukraine where they are quickly trained and then shipped to the frontlines (usually Bakhmut lately) where they are then quickly killed or maimed.
 
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volgr said:
You find it laughable that the US has forced Ukraine to fight a war in which they are being slaughtered 7:1? Coward.
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The actual leaked Intel has Russian KIA over 2:1 worse than AFU Larry 🤡

Leaked intelligence papers suggest that Ukrainian, Russian total casualties reach up to 354,000

According to Reuters, the documents allege that between 15,500-17,500 Ukrainian troops were killed and 109,000-113,500 wounded in action.

Russia is believed to have 35,500-43,000 forces killed in action and 154,000-180,000 wounded, Reuters added.
 
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KB5252 said:
you can't refute my quote with facts. Ukraine is not less militarized today than it was a year ago, in fact is the exact opposite. It's a fact that you simply can't dodge.......
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I already have. The kill ratio isn't going down...IT IS GOING UP. Why has it been going up since the beginning of the war? Because Ukraine has been slowly demilitarized. THEY DON'T HAVE THE TRAINED MEN OR WEAPONS TO WAGE EFFECTIVE WAR AND THEY ARE BEING SLAUGHTERED AT INCREASINGLY HIGHER KILL RATIOS. Get your head out of your ass, coward. YOU WERE LIED TO. YOU ARE WRONG. WAKE THE EFF UP!! Good Lord.
 
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Gandalf said:
I find it incredibly sad. Two people's we really dont have any current beef with slaughtering each other.
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And we could have prevented it. I haven't cheered this from the start, which is why I hardly ever post video of Ukrainians being slaughtered. I feel bad for the Ukrainian people. This didn't need to happen.
 
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volgr said:
Yes, trying to defend as they have slowly lost control of it. As I have said, when you are getting the high kill ratio's that favor Russia, Russia is happy to sit back and wait if Zelensky wants to keep feeding men into their meat grinder. Demilitarization was one of the key goals of Putin and he is achieving that goal in spades.
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Alright then zhukov, when can we expect Ukraine to collapse?since they have lost SSSOOOOOO many men? They must surely be about to fall apart. Just like you claimed in January, with all their losses, and in Novemember, and then back in September. You have claimed insurmountable Ukrainian losses for 6 months now. And yet somehow nothing has really changed.

The russians wont ever achieve demilitirazation as long ad the Ukrainians have plenty of territory to rearm and rest in.
 
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LouderVol said:
Alright then zhukov, when can we expect Ukraine to collapse?since they have lost SSSOOOOOO many men? They must surely be about to fall apart. Just like you claimed in January, with all their losses, and in Novemember, and then back in September. You have claimed insurmountable Ukrainian losses for 6 months now. And yet somehow nothing has really changed.
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I haven't made multiple predictions on when Ukraine would fall. They are suffering insurmountable losses and they are falling apart which, again, is why the death ratio continues to climb higher as the war goes on. Things are changing, just look at the war now vs last fall when Ukraine forced Russia to retreat out of Kharkiv. Ukraine needs to mount another offensive, like they did in Kharkiv, but they keep delaying it. Why?
 
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