War in Ukraine

It's probably going to be called a "feature". See Russians are actually using the wonder weapons as sponges to soak up all the defensive weapons that NATO buddies are sending Ukraine. Then when the defensive weapons are all used up, Russia can send in unused WW2 weapons they have stored up to destroy Ukraine. All going as planned. They are probably converting some leftover Sturmoviks and Yaks to drones as we speak.
I would be interested to see how well our modern tech radars/detection picks up old air craft.

I cant imagine they run as hot without the jets and all the electrical components.

They can fly lower and slower so it may be difficult for modern radar to pick them up. I know they arent stealthy at all, but I wonder how big they show up on radar. Again less tech to make signal bigger.

No radar or other signals to trace back to the source.
 
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I would be interested to see how well our modern tech radars/detection picks up old air craft.

I cant imagine they run as hot without the jets and all the electrical components.

They can fly lower and slower so it may be difficult for modern radar to pick them up. I know they arent stealthy at all, but I wonder how big they show up on radar. Again less tech to make signal bigger.

No radar or other signals to trace back to the source.

Interesting thought. If speed and surface heating isn't a factor, then you could use a variety of other materials for drone and some other aircraft construction. I don't know about reflectivity for most materials, but from way back when, I remember something about traffic radar being less effective on Corvettes - perhaps because of shape and fiberglass bodies. The big engine blocks still gave them away. I really don't know if that was fact or fiction.

The early British Hurricanes had fabric covered wings, and the Mosquito night fighter were made of wood - seems like plywood. Wood, fabric, plastic, or fiberglass might have a smaller return than normal metal aircraft skins. Still the balloons that made the news were detectable once the radar discrimination circuitry was adjusted to account for slower moving objects. You'd guess that had to do with the solar arrays that some carried. I'd bet that all that has been covered while developing stealth aircraft. I did meet a guy who worked on stealth years ago, and jokingly said something about never feeling comfortable with chemistry or antenna theory - like the antenna guys probably wear conical black hats and capes with moons and stars. He said something like I jabbed him on both of his fields of study. I'm respectful of people working in classified stuff and didn't ask anything about that.
 
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Interesting thought. If speed and surface heating isn't a factor, then you could use a variety of other materials for drone and some other aircraft construction. I don't know about reflectivity for most materials, but from way back when, I remember something about traffic radar being less effective on Corvettes - perhaps because of shape and fiberglass bodies. The big engine blocks still gave them away. I really don't know if that was fact or fiction.

The early British Hurricanes had fabric covered wings, and the Mosquito night fighter were made of wood - seems like plywood. Wood, fabric, plastic, or fiberglass might have a smaller return than normal metal aircraft skins. Still the balloons that made the news were detectable once the radar discrimination circuitry was adjusted to account for slower moving objects. You'd guess that had to do with the solar arrays that some carried. I'd bet that all that has been covered while developing stealth aircraft. I did meet a guy who worked on stealth years ago, and jokingly said something about never feeling comfortable with chemistry or antenna theory - like the antenna guys probably wear conical black hats and capes with moons and stars. He said something like I jabbed him on both of his fields of study. I'm respectful of people working in classified stuff and didn't ask anything about that.
yeah, I know it won't make it invisible to radar, but it could be a way to get around some of the early detection. especially if my assumption about flying low to hide from the radar is true. You combine low, slow, and wood, and you are taking away a lot of the categories for easy detection. just go super old school/low budget on them.

idk though. ND40 probably knows more.
 
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Oh darn, no Vladivostok weekend getaways. I guess Bali, Paris, London, Hawaii, the French Riviera, Mexico, Costa Rica, Brazil, ..... will have to do.

 
Oh darn, no Vladivostok weekend getaways. I guess Bali, Paris, London, Hawaii, the French Riviera, Mexico, Costa Rica, Brazil, ..... will have to do.


you are legally braindead if you are an American spending time in Russia of your own choice now. I don't care who it is. if they go over there they should be left to rot when Russia grabs them up as a political prisoner.

Still can't believe we gave away a weapons dealer for an entertainer.
 
yeah, I know it won't make it invisible to radar, but it could be a way to get around some of the early detection. especially if my assumption about flying low to hide from the radar is true. You combine low, slow, and wood, and you are taking away a lot of the categories for easy detection. just go super old school/low budget on them.

idk though. ND40 probably knows more.

Ground returns are a real thing - one of the primary reasons for speed and range gates (discrimination circuitry) in radar. The intent is to declutter what shows up. So almost everything from rain to metallic objects does reflect a radar signal. The real trick is to use discrimination techniques wisely to eliminate most clutter, but smart enough not to eliminate real information. Stealth or use of absorbent, non reflective, or material that diffuses the return is working for now, but I'd bet one day it will all be for nothing. Until then as you say there are probably some nifty tricks available by going back to to things we no longer use - things that fall outside the norm that everyone is looking for.
 
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In before @Rasputin_Vol posts rant about UKR "school bombing".



Sounds like a lot of solid intelligence being delivered to the Ukrainian military wrt the timing and precision of these strikes. Can’t imagine Putin is getting much sleep knowing he’s getting outfoxed on a daily basis.
 

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