War in Ukraine

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Sandman 423]

Probably not a bit. So going forward we should avoid making commitments to assist defense of their territory and sovereignty if we have no intention of backing that up right?

most definitely. We make way to many short sighted deals without really considering the harm that they could bring us.

 

[NorthDallas40]

most definitely.

Oh I agree. We should have never forced that poorly written document in 1994. But after it’s been signed and even though we never thought we would be called on backing it up here we are.

 

[Sandman 423]

Oh I agree. We should have never forced that poorly written document in 1994. But after it’s been signed and even though we never thought we would be called on backing it up here we are.

If we are going to be involved, we should be involved. We haven't even tried to do anything other than send money and arms. Start with diplomacy and go from there. The Biden admin is using this as a political opportunity and everyone knows it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

If we are going to be involved, we should be involved. We haven't even tried to do anything other than send money and arms. Start with diplomacy and go from there. The Biden admin is using this as a political opportunity and everyone knows it.

Oh I don’t think we should be involved anymore than we are. It’s way plenty as is. If anything take the training wheels off the supplied arms to avoid pissing off Russia but that’s about it since Russia has shown they are impotent there is no reason to fear their incompetent wrath. Ukraine should have had ATACMS months ago and the Kersh bridge should be in the water. And we absolutely shouldn’t be sending money that’s Europe’s issue since they’re going to wind up in the EU ultimately.

Oh and the last three admins have equally f$&@ed up the diplomacy here.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[Hunerwadel]

Russia has China as a trading partner, for one, and they have enough chip manufacturing expertise to satisfy their domestic needs if it came down to it.

I think it's come down to it.

 

[evillawyer]

Dude's just an absolute B.O.S.S.

 

[davethevol]

Apparently Mevdevd (whatever the spelling is for the former “President” of Russia) said that nuclear war between the West and Russia is now probable. I think that’s real option on the table for them if they feel like they are trapped in.

 

[BeardedVol]

Apparently Mevdevd (whatever the spelling is for the former “President” of Russia) said that nuclear war between the West and Russia is now probable. I think that’s real option on the table for them if they feel like they are trapped in.

They aren't "trapped" though, are they? No one is attempting to invade Russia.

At any moment Russia could remove their soldiers from the internationally-recognized borders of Ukraine, and the war ends.

 

[evillawyer]

Someone should have been Pushkin that fire alarm earlier.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[TVOLS]

US expected to provide cluster bombs to Ukraine | Ukraine | The Guardian

 

[MG1968]

US expected to provide cluster bombs to Ukraine | Ukraine | The Guardian

According to Ras, When Russia does it, it’s to win a war versus an existential threat (the “expansion” of NATO). When the US provides cluster munitions to Ukraine, ostensibly to kill Russians, it’s racist and escalatory.

 

[lawgator1]

Apparently Mevdevd (whatever the spelling is for the former “President” of Russia) said that nuclear war between the West and Russia is now probable. I think that’s real option on the table for them if they feel like they are trapped in.

Well, there'd be little point in either the US attacking Russia, or vice versa. Escalation is always possible but you have to think we have opened and maintained ESPECIALLY though this some open lines to head off anything spiraling out of control.

 

[BeardedVol]

But I thought sanctions only made the Russian economy stronger?

 

[davethevol]

Well, there'd be little point in either the US attacking Russia, or vice versa. Escalation is always possible but you have to think we have opened and maintained ESPECIALLY though this some open lines to head off anything spiraling out of control.

But the Russians clearly don’t think quite the same way we do. They’re incredibly mouthy, but I also think it isn’t just empty threats. They see this as a point of no return in many ways. If what’s coming out about China having to tell them “no nukes,” then we see what direction they’re willing to take this.

 

[OrangeBoro]

US expected to provide cluster bombs to Ukraine | Ukraine | The Guardian

Of course. Whatever Zelensky wants Biden gives

 

[Orangeburst]

Opinion | Ukraine Needs a Roadmap to NATO Membership ASAP

Hell no

 

[Septic]

Of course. Whatever Zelensky wants Biden gives

It must kill you that the support of Ukraine is bipartisan all over Washington, well except for that skank MTG and her low IQ friends.

Don't let that get in the way of your insecent deflections and redirections to biden & co. though. Keep up the good fight.

 

[MontyPython]

Classic MacGyver.

 

[OrangeBoro]

It must kill you that the support of Ukraine is bipartisan all over Washington, well except for that skank MTG and her low IQ friends.

Don't let that get in the way of your insecent deflections and redirections to biden & co. though. Keep up the good fight.

Your worthless corrupt president sets the agenda

 

[tvolsfan]

Your worthless corrupt president sets the agenda

The agenda that we shouldn’t watch a genocidal, terrorist state annex it’s neighbors?

 

[Septic]

Your worthless corrupt president sets the agenda

You mean our president.

 

[Burhead]

The agenda that we shouldn’t watch a genocidal, terrorist state annex it’s neighbors?

Facts are hard for some. It wasn’t France’s war either right?