War in Ukraine

[LSU-SIU]

For a man that talks so frequently about the evilness.........

Are you having anything

I don't know what you are even talking about. You are claiming they are simply there for the land, okay, see ya at the Polish border. Why would they even think about talking about anything?

What they are saying is logical, which is why I said it long before they did. However, Putin did float out the Polish annexation of Western Ukraine. As I said, without that... Russia should push them all to Poland or kill them. That is the only way to lasting peace logically.

A drawn up new border really doesn't make much sense without more... which is what they are saying. They are right. LOL

A new border has the same ole problems, nothing would have changed. This isn't complex.

 

[KB5252]

I don't know what you are even talking about. You are claiming they are simply there for the land, okay, see ya at the Polish border. Why would they even think about talking about anything?

I hit enter before I was done. I edited it, that aside........... I think the Putin spooge has created an incurable condition.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I hit enter before I was done. I edited it, that aside........... I think the Putin spooge has created an incurable condition.

I think the insane Orange Man Bad people are incurable. You are not offering any real information or logical discussion.... Putin bad, Orange Man bad, chicks with dicks good, etc.

What Russia is saying is the problem has to be solved, its not complex. Now you disagree with their problem, but logically they are correct. Drawing a new border doesn't solve the issue.

As far as my other comments which hurt your feelings.... there is no plan and you have basically a coke head running things.

Imagine we have people here that give other people $100s of billions and have no plan, no idea of a plan, no real time table for a plan, or even an idea what the plan would solve if it existed.

 

[KB5252]

I think the insane Orange Man Bad people are incurable. You are not offering any real information or logical discussion.... Putin bad, Orange Man bad, chicks with dicks good, etc.

What Russia is saying is the problem has to be solved, its not complex. Now you disagree with their problem, but logically they are correct. Drawing a new border doesn't solve the issue.

As far as my other comments which hurt your feelings.... there is no plan and you have basically a coke head running things.

You are funny, you think I'm anti Trump? LOL. I'm not pro Trump but I'm certainly not anti Trump. My hope the first round was that he would be the outsider we needed. He was that. That he wouldn't do things that hurt Americans, he failed there.

I could care less about mean tweets but could have done with better diplomatic attitude.

You believing someone is anti Trump because they understand this was always a Russian land grab and bad for international security. Would be about as silly as me reducing your pro Putin stance to being pro Trump.

For the record I have a healthy distrust for both political parties are virtually every politician.

 

[KB5252]

I think the insane Orange Man Bad people are incurable. You are not offering any real information or logical discussion.... Putin bad, Orange Man bad, chicks with dicks good, etc.

What Russia is saying is the problem has to be solved, its not complex. Now you disagree with their problem, but logically they are correct. Drawing a new border doesn't solve the issue.

As far as my other comments which hurt your feelings.... there is no plan and you have basically a coke head running things.

Imagine we have people here that give other people $100s of billions and have no plan, no idea of a plan, no real time table for a plan, or even an idea what the plan would solve if it existed.

What is the problem Russia has to solve?

Can you just be intellectually honest and say it in it's most basic terms?

You dance around it like a true Russian propagandist. Quit dancing around it.

 

[LouderVol]

I don't know what you are even talking about. You are claiming they are simply there for the land, okay, see ya at the Polish border. Why would they even think about talking about anything?

What they are saying is logical, which is why I said it long before they did. However, Putin did float out the Polish annexation of Western Ukraine. As I said, without that... Russia should push them all to Poland or kill them. That is the only way to lasting peace logically.

A drawn up new border really doesn't make much sense without more... which is what they are saying. They are right. LOL

A new border has the same ole problems, nothing would have changed. This isn't complex.

agreeing with one sides justifications doesn't make it logical.

someone shouting the same thing for however many years, and other people being aware of what they are saying, doesn't make something logical.

nothing Russia has done here has been logical. *at least with the justifications*

 

[LSU-SIU]

You are funny, you think I'm anti Trump? LOL. I'm not pro Trump but I'm certainly not anti Trump. My hope the first round was that he would be the outsider we needed. He was that. That he wouldn't do things that hurt Americans, he failed there.

I could care less about mean tweets but could have done with better diplomatic attitude.

You believing someone is anti Trump because they understand this was always a Russian land grab and bad for international security. Would be about as silly as me reducing your pro Putin stance to being pro Trump.

For the record I have a healthy distrust for both political parties are virtually every politician.

I never said that, I said you have the Orange Man Bad mentality. You are not offering anything that makes sense to me, if anything you are confirming what I said a long time ago.

If Georgia isn't ran the way you want, than you are implying sanctions and cut off.... which is why I said Russia will have to destroy (or equivalent) all of the Ukraine.

Thank you, we'll see if we're right on that.

 

[LSU-SIU]

What is the problem Russia has to solve?

Can you just be intellectually honest and say it in it's most basic terms?

You dance around it like a true Russian propagandist. Quit dancing around it.

I've answered every question you have had.

They don't want the Ukraine to be used as a pawn, its not complex... this has been explained to you in this recent discussion. I can't make you understand, I can't dumb it down any further.... its not complex.

You dance around it like a true Russian propagandist.

Exactly, orange man bad, pootin bad, propagandist, etc. There isn't anything to dance around, I said it long ago.... there isn't anything to go over. Most likely all of the Ukraine will have to go from its 2022 form. I either said that in 2022, or said things similar. I know I said the meat grinding could go on for a decade or two.


Deep State actor. Its not hard.


BTW what is this magic plan my tax dollars went to on this? Its easier to fool people...

 

[LouderVol]

I never said that, I said you have the Orange Man Bad mentality. You are not offering anything that makes sense to me, if anything you are confirming what I said a long time ago.

If Georgia isn't ran the way you want, than you are implying sanctions and cut off.... which is why I said Russia will have to destroy (or equivalent) all of the Ukraine.

Thank you, we'll see if we're right on that.

why are western sanctions worse and unacceptable to you, while Russian wars are seen as preferrable and acceptable to you?

 

[LouderVol]

I've answered every question you have had.

They don't want the Ukraine to be used as a pawn, its not complex... this has been explained to you in this recent discussion. I can't make you understand, I can't dumb it down any further.... its not complex.



Exactly, orange man bad, pootin bad, propagandist, etc.


Deep State actor. Its not hard.

yes they do. they want Ukraine to be their puppet. that is why they started the violence. their puppet in Ukraine got ran out of the country.

 

[KB5252]

I never said that, I said you have the Orange Man Bad mentality. You are not offering anything that makes sense to me, if anything you are confirming what I said a long time ago.

If Georgia isn't ran the way you want, than you are implying sanctions and cut off.... which is why I said Russia will have to destroy (or equivalent) all of the Ukraine.

Thank you, we'll see if we're right on that.

That's where you're wrong. Trump doesn't trigger me in any way. You are making ridiculous suppositions.

If Georgia isn't upholding the will of it's people we don't support the government denying their wishes.........

 

[KB5252]

I've answered every question you have had.

They don't want the Ukraine to be used as a pawn, its not complex... this has been explained to you in this recent discussion. I can't make you understand, I can't dumb it down any further.... its not complex.



Exactly, orange man bad, pootin bad, propagandist, etc. There isn't anything to dance around, I said it long ago.... there isn't anything to go over. Most likely all of the Ukraine will have to go from its 2022 form. I either said that in 2022, or said things similar. I know I said the meat grinding could go on for a decade or two.


Deep State actor. Its not hard.


BTW what is this magic plan my tax dollars went to on this? Its easier to fool people...

LOL......

They want the warm water ports..... That's what all this was about........... And you can't say what is so obvious to anyone capable of critical thinking.

Stay hilarious my friend.

 

[LSU-SIU]

That's where you're wrong. Trump doesn't trigger me in any way. You are making ridiculous suppositions.

If Georgia isn't upholding the will of it's people we don't support the government denying their wishes.........

You are proving my point, anytime you wish and have an issue with Ukraine or Georgia ( or some other Sovreign country) that is none of your business you will sanction them and cut them off.

They're not independent.

 

[KB5252]

You are proving my point, anytime you wish and have an issue with Ukraine or Georgia ( or some other Sovreign country) that is none of your business you will sanction them and cut them off.

They're not independent.

Why support them if they don't fulfill the will of their people?

Quite the contrary, you are proving the point the other direction. That any time a sovereign nation defies Putin's wishes they must be invaded and controlled.

One of us has real life examples to back up their claims...... The other has Putin spooge!

 

[LSU-SIU]

LOL......

They want the warm water ports..... That's what all this was about........... And you can't say what is so obvious to anyone capable of critical thinking.

Stay hilarious my friend.

Logically there would be no reason for them to sit down at the table in 2022 and offer since that time.

I for one have said, I would bet on the Ukraine not being what it was in its form in 2022. So, what you are telling me is no negotiations.

My bet remains most of the Ukraine will have to go, but I could be wrong.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Why support them if they don't fulfill the will of their people?

Quite the contrary, you are proving the point the other direction. That any time a sovereign nation defies Putin's wishes they must be invaded and controlled.

One of us has real life examples to back up their claims...... The other has Putin spooge!

Your will. It doesn't matter, it irrelevant.

Anytime you wish, you and the Europeans in the future cut them off because its Wednesday. That is the point i.e. pawn meaning they are not in position to withstand that.

You could be absolutely correct or not correct that its valid in your eyes, it irrelevant and proves the point. Your basically saying they are independent until we determine they are not. LOL

 

[KB5252]

Orange man bad. Poottinn Bad. Conspiracy theory bad.

Why are you tying to separate people working independently of each other into one......

That's interesting.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Why are you tying to separate people working independently of each other into one......

That's interesting.

Its the same stupid mentality that continues to fail, I don't know why you are doing it.

 

[LouderVol]

You are proving my point, anytime you wish and have an issue with Ukraine or Georgia ( or some other Sovreign country) that is none of your business you will sanction them and cut them off.

They're not independent.

or if Russia has a problem with Ukraine or Georgia, they will just invade.

I think if you ask anyone, they would prefer the sanctions to the invasion.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Okay. Here we go. Biden is in office in the future, in theory. The Comedian sits down with the Evil Pootin. He says, okay you keep all that land and we'll pay you $20b as well. We agree not to enter NATO and place some Russian troops in the Ukraine, and lets setup a bunch of trade deals.

What happens? Sanctions and cut off from Europe.

There is no neutral, its our way of the highway.

What you are hinting at is Fantasy.

 

[LouderVol]

Your will. It doesn't matter, it irrelevant.

Anytime you wish, you and the Europeans in the future cut them off because its Wednesday. That is the point i.e. pawn meaning they are not in position to withstand that.

You could be absolutely correct or not correct that its valid in your eyes, it irrelevant and proves the point. Your basically saying they are independent until we determine they are not. LOL

or Russia invades them.

 

[BreatheUT]

I actually got a kick out of Evil's stuff, either pure evil (as self-described) or basically sarcasm like Libs of TikTok, showing the absurdity of things. Either way, I thought it was entertaining at least.

It's been hard on @evillawyer since taking that L. I hope someone was able to do a wellness check.

 

[LouderVol]

Okay. Here we go. Biden is in office in the future, in theory. The Comedian sits down with the Evil Pootin. He says, okay you keep all that land and we'll pay you $20b as well. We agree not to enter NATO and place some Russian troops in the Ukraine, and lets setup a bunch of trade deals.

What happens? Sanctions and cut off from Europe.

There is no neutral, its our way of the highway.

What you are hinting at is Fantasy.

you have no proof for that.

according to you Ukraine has been under America's thumb since 2014. the west never made them cut off any ties they had with Russia, even after 2014.

the proposed deal with the west didn't require any changes to Ukraine's deals with Russia. in fact part of the deal was to allow more Russian oil thru Ukraine to get to Europe.

 

[LSU-SIU]

It's been hard on @evillawyer since taking that L. I hope someone was able to do a wellness check.

Oh man this thread is glorious already, man, I was going back to 2022 earlier today for giggles. Hilarious. I didn't post too much or just got sick of the nonsense, Donjovol I think had similar thoughts at that time.

Some of the lunatic LG stuff is just GOAT.

 

[KB5252]

Your will. It doesn't matter, it irrelevant.

Anytime you wish, you and the Europeans in the future cut them off because its Wednesday. That is the point i.e. pawn meaning they are not in position to withstand that.

You could be absolutely correct or not correct that its valid in your eyes, it irrelevant and proves the point. Your basically saying they are independent until we determine they are not. LOL

What are you talking about, Georgia is withstanding it now. We just didn't want to be a part of foreign military holding Georgia's puppet admin in power by show of military force.

That's not to say the US interests are pure. Or our MIC has good intentions. But that fact doesn't make Putin or Russia the good guys here. Quite the opposite in reality, they terrorized these people for centuries to bring them under foot. They never forgot and were happy to leave, even in an uncertain future when the Soviet Union collapsed.

They aren't keen to join again just to further Putin's Tsarist interests.

Anyway, it's been fun. I'm likely out for the night