War in Ukraine

[Septic]

I assume they have good intelligence that tells them things aren’t going great for Russia in the battle. Thus the abandoning.

Putin and Russia are going to be global pariahs for a while.

 

[BreatheUT]

Putin’s allies abandon him over Ukraine invasion


Several of Russia's closest allies and former Soviet satellite states have sharply rebuked President Vladimir Putin over his unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

Czech President Milos Zeman and Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban, both historically strong pro-Russian voices in the European Union, condemned the affront as "an unprovoked act of aggression," AP reports.

• "Russia has committed a crime against peace," Zeman said.
• Zeman, who earlier this week insisted that Russia wouldn't attack Ukraine, changed course and has called for harsh sanctions against Russia, including pulling out of the SWIFT financial system.
• Orban, who has pursued a diplomatic and economic strategy with Putin called "Eastern Opening," condemned "Russia's military action."
• “Hungary’s position is clear: we stand by Ukraine, we stand by Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty,” said Hungary's Foreign Minister Peter Szijijarto, per AP.

What's happening: Kazakhstan, one of Russia's closest allies, denied a request for its troops to join the attack on Ukraine, per NBC News.

• The Czech Republic closed Russian consulates in the country and stopped issuing visas to Russians except for humanitarian cases.
• The president of Bulgaria, which was Russia's closest ally during the Cold War, said the invasion was "absolutely inadmissible."
• The ruling coalition leaders in Romania called Russia "the architect of the worst security crisis since World War II."
• Moldovan President Maia Sandu said Russia’s attacks were launched "in violation of international norms," and the international community "unanimously condemns these military actions."

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Even Moldova is spurning Putin. MOLDAVA!

When it rains, it pours, Puty!

Romania? Bulgaria? I mean is this news? Did anyone expect them to help Russia's cause? Did someone get paid to write this?

 

[MontyPython]

Romania? Bulgaria? I mean is this news? Did anyone expect them to help Russia's cause? Did someone get paid to write this?

These countries were under the thumb of Russia for years. And, yeah, several of them were straight up allies.

 

[ButchPlz]

Romania? Bulgaria? I mean is this news? Did anyone expect them to help Russia's cause? Did someone get paid to write this?

I don't think anybody should have expected them to contribute soldiers, but the news to me is the direct comments condemning the attacks.

It looks like Russia's going to fail at this eventually- and hopefully it stays that way without major American intervention.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I think what had been exposed is the myth of Russian military might. Either that or their tactics are terrible

Absolutely mind blowing how incompetent or negligent their commanders have been. How do you lose 2 massive transports full of paratroopers by unnecessarily putting them into jump zone that is that well defended ? I want the Ukrainians to come out of this thing, but I can’t help but feel awful for these young Russian paratroopers and their families for this senseless loss of life . This isn’t an ideology that we’re fighting now. This is the irrational dream of a guy who has the potential for worldwide catastrophe.

 

[MontyPython]

Russian fighters getting shot down. This points to an Ukrainian air defense other than Stingers.

The probability of Stingers hitting MIGs is really low. Not impossible, but low.

 

[lawgator1]

I wonder what Putin thought this would look like even if he pulled it off. That the Ukrainian people would simply accept whatever puppet regime he might install? Thank him for bringing them back into Russia?

Whatever fantasy he had it seems he was way off.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

I can tell you for a fact we gave them stealth. He's done for. Stop supporting his operatives.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Putin and Russia are going to be global pariahs for a while.

At some point I wonder if Russia doesn't offer up Putin (in some way) to try and distance Russia from the invasion? Make it a rougue Putin scenario. I'm not sure Putin survives this.

 

[Septic]

I can tell you for a fact we gave them stealth. He's done for. Stop supporting his operatives.

 

[Septic]

At some point I wonder if Russia doesn't offer up Putin (in some way) to try and distance Russia from the invasion? Make it a rougue Putin scenario. I'm not sure Putin survives this.

How does Russia offer up Putin, that guy IS Russia from a political point of view. There would have to be a coup and I can't see that happening.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

I just want to make it clear Russians are not your enemy. Most are good people.

 

[Matt2496]

I think what had been exposed is the myth of Russian military might. Either that or their tactics are terrible

It's like the Russians don't know what SEAD is.

Seems like incompetent leadership to me. I think they thought they could just waltz in and the Ukrainians would just lay down and give up. This is a severe miscalculation on Russia's part. It turns out, Ukraine values their independence and are going to fight until the end.

It's so inspiring to see this kind of resolve.

 

[Vol737]

I can tell you for a fact we gave them stealth. He's done for. Stop supporting his operatives.

Nobody in this thread, despite our domestic political bickering, is supporting Putin in this. Everyone sees it for what it is. We may have different opinions on how it got to this, but I’m not sure who you’re admonishing here.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

We need to give Putin a SWIFT kick. I don't think our leadership has the balls to do it until it's too late.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

We need to give Putin a SWIFT kick. I don't think our leadership has the balls to do it until it's too late.

What do you want? Boots on the ground? Nuke Moscow? Physically kidnap Putin just to deliver a literal kick to his ass?

I'm genuinely curious.

 

[Vol737]

What do you want? Boots on the ground? Nuke Moscow? Physically kidnap Putin just to deliver a literal kick to his ass?

I'm genuinely curious.

Talking about kicking them out of the SWIFT program.

 

[Matt2496]

What do you want? Boots on the ground? Nuke Moscow? Physically kidnap Putin just to deliver a literal kick to his ass?

I'm genuinely curious.

SWIFT - Wikipedia

 

[InVOLuntary]

How does Russia offer up Putin, that guy IS Russia from a political point of view. There would have to be a coup and I can't see that happening.

I can see the $$$$ people tiring of it and his support eroding. I get the feeling the soldiers aren't really into this. There's been suggestions, even from the inside questioning his mental state. I definitely could see a coup. If Russia wants to return to the international community, they'll have to sacrifice something and that very well could be putin. I don't think they'd turn him over, no way, but I could see him being taken out.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

What do you want? Boots on the ground? Nuke Moscow? Physically kidnap Putin just to deliver a literal kick to his ass?

I'm genuinely curious.

Kick them out of SWIFT program. That's the only sanction out there that has bite. It would decimate their oil industry since they couldn't export efficiently.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

where is the Feher? he is running.

 

[davethevol]

Russian official issues stark threats to the West
“We are being driven out of everywhere, punished and threatened, but we don't feel scared,” he said, mocking the sanctions imposed by the U.S. and its allies as an attempt to vindicate their past “shameful decisions, like a cowardly retreat from Afghanistan.”

And there is the proof of how our withdrawal was handled gave our enemies a renewed boldness. They recognize the weak leadership.

 

[allvol123]

Line of volunteers to join the Territorial Defense.

 

[Septic]

Russian official issues stark threats to the West
“We are being driven out of everywhere, punished and threatened, but we don't feel scared,” he said, mocking the sanctions imposed by the U.S. and its allies as an attempt to vindicate their past “shameful decisions, like a cowardly retreat from Afghanistan.”

And there is the proof of how our withdrawal was handled gave our enemies a renewed boldness. They recognize the weak leadership.

It's a swipe, but lets not forget they also got there tail handed to them in the Afghanistan. They hold no superior position.

The more they lash out and tell everyone the sanctions don't sting, the more they're feeling them.

 

[happy-go_vol]

We need to give Putin a SWIFT kick. I don't think our leadership has the balls to do it until it's too late.

No, Harris regime is weak