War in Ukraine

[bamawriter]

 

[LSU-SIU]

(not sure if true)

I love this type of human interaction. I love it.

 

[apevol]

Reasonable to say Trump was done with Ukraine well before this meeting. He should have just said so. No need for this. His base is already behind him on the issue. And this didn't bring anyone on to his side.

this was disgusting and everyone cheering it on are lost souls

 

[jmacvols1]

Lol, this is not the flex you think it is.

you and LG misread body language.

 

[C-south]

Yeah, it's hard to keep track of weapons once you send them into battle in a warzone, and get used and destroyed, and transferred amongst combat units. Can't imagine why the accounting isn't priority #1.



We had divisions from 3 different government agencies tracking aid sent to Ukraine before Trump fired the inspector general of USAID.

Home - Ukraine Oversight

A completely irrelevant tangent. THEY AREN'T WINNING NO MATTER WHAT WE WASTE SENDING THEM. They can’t account for what we’ve already sent, but still, keep sending them more limitless s*** that’s going to yield the same result.

 

[jmacvols1]

Trump needs to get Musk to get together all of his auditors, everyone of them, and start tracking down where every single penny that was given to Ukraine went.

 

[volkyries]

What happens to the economy under a President belongs to him. So any changes from 2025 until 2029 will belong to Trump.

My argument is, the economy is miles better today than 2-3 years ago. But now Economists are screeching about a recession. It would seem the ones sounding the alarm may have an agenda. Because if the alarm wasn’t sounding 2 years ago it never should.

All indicators are pointing favorably except threats of tariffs and some government employees losing their jobs. Mind you those employees had the option to get paid and ample time to find a different job.

Inflation has dropped, forecasted inflation is stagnant, yet the Feds will not cut rates. One was expected in March, it is believed that won’t happen.

Seems hard to believe all of the government cutting (contracts, employees, etc), tariffs, and uncertainty will not have an effect on the economy, but we will just have to see. Pres. Trump is moving a lot of levers at once so it would be hard to predict the effect. I hope it is all for the good even long term, but it sure seems like he is setting us up for short term pain at least.

 

[LSU-SIU]

A completely irrelevant tangent. THEY AREN'T WINNING NO MATTER WHAT WE WASTE SENDING THEM. They can’t account for what we’ve already sent, but still, keep sending them more limitless s*** that’s going to yield the same result.

I didn't know they are losing, nobody out here told me.

 

[jmacvols1]

well to some people it's a sign of disrespect.

 

[utvolpj]

So he got set up in a room full of bullies? That feels very weak imo

 

[BeardedVol]

you and LG misread body language.

You have a complete and willful denial of all of the times Trump has denigrated Rubio and his professional abilities, and Rubio's 180 MAGA flip flop on Ukraine.

 

[Volbucky]

Is this the moment the US lost leadership of the free world. Remarkable. This was the moment that everyone knew for sure they could no longer count on us. I am ashamed.

"And say thank you for all the weapons we gave you."

"I have. Many times."

"No, now. Like a performing monkey. Hey! dOn'T dIsReSpEcT uS!"

Honestly, it was like watching two bullies gang up on a schoolkid. Except worse because they're both grown men and the schoolkid in question was the hero who's been holding back the entire might of Russia - and then some - from taking his country and then others for four straight years now.

Hero? Lol give me a break. He is far from that. He’s an arrogant mooch

 

[C-south]

I didn't know they are losing, nobody out here told me.

They would win the war if we just send them everything we have all at once.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Oh boy even the evil neocons want you gone.

 

[BeardedVol]

A completely irrelevant tangent. THEY AREN'T WINNING NO MATTER WHAT WE WASTE SENDING THEM. They can’t account for what we’ve already sent, but still, keep sending them more limitless s*** that’s going to yield the same result.

"Kyiv in 3 days", Ukraine still exists, 3 years later.

Why doesn't MAGA call on Putin to stop waging war, with the same fervence that it calls upon Ukraine to surrender?

Is it just run-of-the-mill cowardice?

 

[Grand Vol]

 

[C-south]

"Kyiv in 3 days", Ukraine still exists, 3 years later.

Why doesn't MAGA call on Putin to stop waging war, with the same fervence that it calls upon Ukraine to surrender?

Is it just run-of-the-mill cowardice?

Why is it up to us to negotiate anything with either? Seems like the nightlife is still going strong there for sure.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Why is it up to us to negotiate anything with either? Seems like the nightlife is still going strong there for sure.

There isn't. Trump has been trying to tell both the midget and the Europeans its over, but they can't have that.

 

[BeardedVol]

Why is it up to us to negotiate anything with either? Seems like the nightlife is still going strong there for sure.

If it's not up to us then why is MAGA screaming for Ukraine to surrender, rather than screaming at Putin to stop waging the war that he started?

 

[NorthDallas40]

well to some people it's a sign of disrespect.

And those people are just looking for something to be outraged over. The meme is correct, who the hell cares.

 

[C-south]

If it's not up to us then why is MAGA screaming for Ukraine to surrender, rather than screaming at Putin to stop waging the war that he started?

Who is maga and when did they say anything? Why aren’t pu**yhats, like you, wanting to send endless resources to a country that’s doomed if they continue to fight?

 

[just bob]

I don't always enjoy being right all of the time. It's pretty nice right now though. lmao

 

[LSU-SIU]

 

[Ritzwatch]

If one truly wants peace (soon) in Ukraine, this is the way it had to happen.

Had to tell the military authority of Ukraine that they can't win.
Had to tell him they would have lost already without our arms.
Had to tell him that we weren't going to continue to provide arms indefinitely.

It is ok to be anti-Russia without being pro-Ukraine. Neither of them are our friend.

You won't convince me the US has not communicated privately to Z that they want him to pursue a peace agreement with Russia.

Zelensky thought he could outmaneuver this administration by publicly using his seat in the Oval to push for what he wants. I don't blame him for trying; he would have gotten away with it with any of our last few decades of leadership.

Zelensky also thought he could control the flow of weapons to his country without having to make any concessions towards peace.

He was wrong on both his strategies.

This was either a huge step towards Ukraine negotiating in good faith for peace, or it is a huge step towards Europe taking a much, much larger role in their own defense. Because Europe is incapable of the latter, I suspect it will be former, and likely relatively soon.

 

[jmacvols1]

Z lost an ally