War in Ukraine

[Rasputin_Vol]

Of course he has some fair points, the US has meddled in foreign affairs for decades but I do believe the US has largely been a force for good

We've done a good job of squandering goodwill since the end of WWII.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I want to put this out there to the group here. I think a lot of you are being too hard on Ras. Many of the points he is making are very valid. In fact, you’d hear many of them echoed by Russian citizens and even some living in present day Ukraine. You’d also hear about some atrocities committed by the Ukrainians against their own Russian speaking citizens.

Our sphere of influence in that part of the world is seen as menacing and threatening to the long term survival of Russia. We might feel the same way if Mexico and Canada both fell under the influence of Russia.

It in no way validates their invasion of Ukraine. What has already gone down has been horrible and may make Putin’s leadership untenable going forward. Especially with the current nuclear threats. It may not change a thing in how this current threat plays out, but an understanding of how we got here might mitigate further conflict in the future.

All I really want to point out is what Ras has to say is valid discussion material and shouldn’t necessarily be interpreted as Rad being a Russian sympathizer.

For the record, I still say Vlad is a bad hombre and he needs to be dealt with. Preferably by the Europeans. The man is a danger to humanity.

Thanks for not chopping my head of.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

We've done a good job of squandering goodwill since the end of WWII.

Gotta love this.

 

[Septic]

No one is forcing NATO to accept them.

Sounds like a deal that those party's ought to work out. Not be told what to do by a third.

Putin is going to "win" Ukraine but he may not be able to afford to keep it.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

If you can’t see why all that division and nazi talk from the left is dangerous, here’s why

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Necessity is the mother of invention.

Lawyers lecturing about engineering.

 

[Septic]

Sounds like Belarus was told by Daddy Putin to start stocking the fallout shelters.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

-That the federal government put energy standards in place for 2030 that are not reachable with any known technology?
-That there are no existing hypothesis for a technology that can meet those goals?
-that artificially ruining our current energy situation, at the same time improving the enemy’s energy situation will somehow give us the ability to pull that technology from our collective asses?

The larger “point” is that to say “necessity breeds…..” anything at this “point”…..this artificially created “point” is in fact stupid

OMG...Thank you so much...I hate the lefty green commie scumbag idiots. They are literally stealing from me every time I have to buy gas and food by artificially causing higher prices to install their imbecilic EV agenda

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

No, that higher gas prices eventually will price in the economy of energy alternatives that are no economically viable. And I think over time what we see in such situations is that as producers prepare to fill that need, the costs come down. See e.g. battery technology for EVs.

I hate you and every other one of you that support this You are all thieves for what you are doing to people like me.

 

[Septic]

He's only doing this bc he hates nazis.

I never quite understood this Nazi angle, Putin does realize that Zelensky is a Jew - right?

 

[davethevol]

I never quite understood this Nazi angle, Putin does realize that Zelensky is a Jew - right?

That’s the worst kind of Nazi!

 

[landscapingvol]

We've done a good job of squandering goodwill since the end of WWII.

Syria produces very little oil and the US isn’t stealing it, it’s a ridiculous assertion

 

[allvol123]

I never quite understood this Nazi angle, Putin does realize that Zelensky is a Jew - right?

Past the point of anything he says or does needing to make sense. He’s murdering civilians for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

 

[lawgator1]

I hate you and every other one of you that support this You are all thieves for what you are doing to people like me.

Huh?

You don't think that advances in technology would lead to alternative energy sources?

 

[volbound1700]

Syria produces very little oil and the US isn’t stealing it, it’s a ridiculous assertion

Are we even in Syria? I thought Russia was there.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I never quite understood this Nazi angle, Putin does realize that Zelensky is a Jew - right?

Right Sektor and The Azov Battalion...

Sounds like Azov Battalion is facing some flak right now in Mariupol.

 

[landscapingvol]

Are we even in Syria? I thought Russia was there.

We have a small contingent

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Syria produces very little oil and the US isn’t stealing it, it’s a ridiculous assertion

What little they have, the US is working with the Kurds in NE Syria to steal it.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Huh?

You don't think that advances in technology would lead to alternative energy sources?

I think artificially crimping gas/oil supply by implementing an aggressive anti-fossil fuel agenda to force prices higher, therefore screwing hundreds of millions of low middle class people into barely survibing territory is f'n criminal. I hate you...every last f'n one of green commie bastards

 

[volbound1700]

I do think that we need to indicate to Russia if they pull out of Ukraine and pursue a peaceful solution, we will drop the sanctions. Hopefully that will calm down the Nuclear Warfare talk.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

What little they have, the US is working with the Kurds in NE Syria to steal it.

If you are an American, you are a scumbag traitor

 

[landscapingvol]

What little they have, the US is working with the Kurds in NE Syria to steal it.

They should give it to the Kurds if that is indeed the case. They would give the Jews a run for their money on the historical being fed a turd sandwich continuum

 

[landscapingvol]

I do think that we need to indicate to Russia if they pull out of Ukraine and pursue a peaceful solution, we will drop the sanctions. Hopefully that will calm down the Nuclear Warfare talk.

Nuclear threats are the fall back solutions when things aren’t going well for certain nations like Russia and NK

 

[WBO]

OMG...Thank you so much...I hate the lefty green commie scumbag idiots. They are literally stealing from me every time I have to buy gas and food by artificially causing higher prices to install their imbecilic EV agenda

Sorry McGill, but that ship has sailed. With Mercedes coming out with a 450 mile battery and more improvements ahead, the world is going electric.
But you haven't seen the real disruption yet. A huge number of automobile systems (fuel systems, water systems) just are not necessary in electrics. So those manufacturers will be hammered not to mention maintenance of those systems which means mechanics losing jobs. There's nothing you can do to reverse this, but the powers that be need to start planning for this displacement.

BTW the way, you blame "lefty green commie scumbags idiots."

I don't think there is anything liberal about Elon Musk and he is the godfather of the industry, at least for now.

 

[Septic]

I do think that we need to indicate to Russia if they pull out of Ukraine and pursue a peaceful solution, we will drop the sanctions. Hopefully that will calm down the Nuclear Warfare talk.

At some point this guy needs to have his bluff called. If it's not he'll keep doing it, bully's need to be smacked in the mouth.

Holding nukes over the worlds head while he rapes and pillages should be a non starter. No one wants nuclear war, but you can't have the POS threatening this every time some one doesn't do what he wants.