War in Ukraine

[Paper_Towel]

My God, what type of munition did this?

The ammo carousel exploded. Typical for Soviet auto loaders.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Appears to be a highly effective round!

Oh yeah they are. Every body has them. In fact the German anti tank weapon from WW2 I want to say kinda laid the basis for the current technology.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It is kind of stupid to make a fake one when there are plenty of real ones. I would say it has more to do with journalists being lazy and unwilling to get in harm's way

So they are dishonest and can't be trusted.

 

[landscapingvol]

Totally disagree. Our government, and this is not a new development, are the enemy of the people in it's own country. They don't care about us and they don't care about people in other countries. They are as corrupt as they come.

The US government isn't the enemy of the people inside this nation, that is a ridiculously paranoid statement, some of the people who run it may be but not the government in and of itself.

 

[landscapingvol]

So they are dishonest and can't be trusted.

There are dishonest, untrustworthy people in every occupation on both sides

 

[Vol8188]

Reynolds: The more we talk, the more we’re using World War II analogies. There are people who are saying we’re on the brink of a World War III.
Hill: We’re already in it. We have been for some time. We keep thinking of World War I, World War II as these huge great big set pieces, but World War II was a consequence of World War I. And we had an interwar period between them. And in a way, we had that again after the Cold War. Many of the things that we’re talking about here have their roots in the carving up of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Russian Empire at the end of World War I. At the end of World War II, we had another reconfiguration and some of the issues that we have been dealing with recently go back to that immediate post-war period. We’ve had war in Syria, which is in part the consequence of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, same with Iraq and Kuwait.
All of the conflicts that we’re seeing have roots in those earlier conflicts. We are already in a hot war over Ukraine, which started in 2014. People shouldn’t delude themselves into thinking that we’re just on the brink of something. We’ve been well and truly in it for quite a long period of time.
But this is also a full-spectrum information war, and what happens in a Russian “all-of-society” war, you soften up the enemy. You get the Tucker Carlsons and Donald Trumps doing your job for you. The fact that Putin managed to persuade Trump that Ukraine belongs to Russia, and that Trump would be willing to give up Ukraine without any kind of fight, that’s a major success for Putin’s information war. I mean he has got swathes of the Republican Party — and not just them, some on the left, as well as on the right — masses of the U.S. public saying, “Good on you, Vladimir Putin,” or blaming NATO, or blaming the U.S. for this outcome. This is exactly what a Russian information war and psychological operation is geared towards. He’s been carefully seeding this terrain as well. We’ve been at war, for a very long time. I’ve been saying this for years.

This is one of the dumbest posts I've read in awhile. View on Russia are not a left/right thing in this country. You can find articles from plenty of left wing outlets (the NYT among them) blaming NATO for this. The idea that the right is supporting Russia is about as insane as it gets.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Reynolds: The more we talk, the more we’re using World War II analogies. There are people who are saying we’re on the brink of a World War III.
Hill: We’re already in it. We have been for some time. We keep thinking of World War I, World War II as these huge great big set pieces, but World War II was a consequence of World War I. And we had an interwar period between them. And in a way, we had that again after the Cold War. Many of the things that we’re talking about here have their roots in the carving up of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Russian Empire at the end of World War I. At the end of World War II, we had another reconfiguration and some of the issues that we have been dealing with recently go back to that immediate post-war period. We’ve had war in Syria, which is in part the consequence of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, same with Iraq and Kuwait.
All of the conflicts that we’re seeing have roots in those earlier conflicts. We are already in a hot war over Ukraine, which started in 2014. People shouldn’t delude themselves into thinking that we’re just on the brink of something. We’ve been well and truly in it for quite a long period of time.
But this is also a full-spectrum information war, and what happens in a Russian “all-of-society” war, you soften up the enemy. You get the Tucker Carlsons and Donald Trumps doing your job for you. The fact that Putin managed to persuade Trump that Ukraine belongs to Russia, and that Trump would be willing to give up Ukraine without any kind of fight, that’s a major success for Putin’s information war. I mean he has got swathes of the Republican Party — and not just them, some on the left, as well as on the right — masses of the U.S. public saying, “Good on you, Vladimir Putin,” or blaming NATO, or blaming the U.S. for this outcome. This is exactly what a Russian information war and psychological operation is geared towards. He’s been carefully seeding this terrain as well. We’ve been at war, for a very long time. I’ve been saying this for years.

Why didn't he take Ukraine when Trump was in office then? More left wing propaganda.

 

[NorthDallas40]

The ammo carousel exploded. Typical for Soviet auto loaders.

The US design their armor to vent the magazine external to the crew compartment when it blows. I’d hope that was a standard design concept in this day and age but I have to admit I really don’t care too much about Russian tank crews right now.

 

[Vol737]

For you people arguing about Putin and his motivations for the war you need to read the Fiona Apple article that someone posted earlier. She knows him like few people do. She knows people who have been following Putin since he was Vice-Mayor of St. Petersburg.

Meanwhile, I'm no Microsoft fan (since I didn't get in on the ground floor) but you need to read this. I'm glad they're on our side.

As the tanks rolled into Ukraine, so did Malware; Then Microsoft entered the war

Interesting. Which leads me to think, given the sanctions imposed, removal from SWIFT, their cascading currency and failing banks in a matter of days…seems like Russia could be really exposed to a cyber attack that turns their lights out completely. Hmm, if only someone or some entity could show Ukraine how to do that.

 

[DC_Vol]

The US design their armor to vent the magazine external to the crew compartment when it blows. I’d hope that was a standard design concept in this day and age but I have to admit I really don’t care too much about Russian tank crews right now.

I actually feel great sorrow for these young men. From the look of things on the ground, it appears most have no desire to be there.

 

[Orangeburst]

This Fiona Hill piece is fos.
Ask the radicals what they think of Nato
Conjecture that Trump would of conceded Ukraine
If we have been at war Obama didn’t know it

Just a repeat of everything wrong in the world cause Trump.

 

[Velo Vol]

Why the 180?

It appears complicated. At any rate, it seems announcements yesterday were premature.

 

[Orangeburst]

This is one of the dumbest posts I've read in awhile. View on Russia are not a left/right thing in this country. You can find articles from plenty of left wing outlets (the NYT among them) blaming NATO for this. The idea that the right is supporting Russia is about as insane as it gets.

You type faster

 

[landscapingvol]

I actually feel great sorrow for these young men. From the look of things on the ground, it appears most have no desire to be there.

I feel bad for them too, especially the non die hards that have no choice in being there but don't kid yourselves there are thousands of brainwashed soldiers who are relishing this moment.

 

[tnmarktx]

The US government isn't the enemy of the people inside this nation, that is a ridiculously paranoid statement, some of the people who run it may be but not the government in and of itself.

The people that run it are the government. It's not paranoid at all. Go to the "peoples house" enter it and petition the government for a redress of grievances. You probably want to take a bullet proof vest with you.

 

[tnmarktx]

This Fiona Hill piece is fos.
Ask the radicals what they think of Nato
Conjecture that Trump would of conceded Ukraine
If we have been at war Obama didn’t know it

Just a repeat of everything wrong in the world cause Trump.

Wouldn't believe a single word she has to say about anything.

 

[landscapingvol]

The people that run it are the government. It's not paranoid at all. Go to the "peoples house" enter it and petition the government for a redress of grievances. You probably want to take a bullet proof vest with you.

As I stated, some of the people running it only look out for themselves. It has been that way since the beginning of time. This isn't a new development

 

[davethevol]

I wonder if the decision to cancel sending planes to Ukraine is because those countries think Russia will attack them and they need them for their defense?

 

[Vol8188]

I wonder if the decision to cancel sending planes to Ukraine is because those countries think Russia will attack them and they need them for their defense?

None of those countries fear Russia. Russia is not a world power.

 

[DC_Vol]

I wonder if the decision to cancel sending planes to Ukraine is because those countries think Russia will attack them and they need them for their defense?

My guess would be to keep the situation from further escalating beyond Ukraine.

 

[Sea Ray]

They might as well convert their currency to Trump University degrees.

Or Hunter Biden paintings...

Why must you continue the partisan rants? Conservatives can match you rant for rant but where does it get us? Can't you leave the partisan crap aside with regards to Ukraine? Let's unify our differences and support freedom

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No - independent in terms of not being in a political union with them, but extensive economic ties. Basically just like the UK. A lot of Europeans have this false notion that you are "isolated" or "not part of Europe" if you aren't formally a member of the EU. It's BS. Ukraine should be working like mad to sign every deal they can with European countries, but they don't have to be a member of the EU.

Not much different from what I've been saying. I think the Europeans are dysfunctional as hell, but that would be a step in the right direction for a bunch of these Eastern European countries.

 

[volfanhill]

My guess would be to keep the situation from further escalating beyond Ukraine.

That's my thought.

 

[tnmarktx]

As I stated, some of the people running it only look out for themselves. It has been that way since the beginning of time. This isn't a new development

No, it's not new. Something you don't realize is that our government is just as corrupt as Putin and the Russian gov. Most not some are all in on the corruption

 

[Orangeburst]

Not much different from what I've been saying. I think the Europeans are dysfunctional as hell, but that would be a step in the right direction for a bunch of these Eastern European countries.

Actually what I would like to see is an economic and military alliance of the Eastetn Euro nations. No way I would go under Brussels thumb