War in Ukraine

[luthervol]

Don’t the winds blow toward Russia?

Putin doesn't hold the average Russian citizen in high regard, they are pretty much as expendable as a Ukrainian child.

 

[865er]

Because he is NOT going to stop. He is going to keep going. Everyone knows it. He has moneys laundered everywhere. He is going to take all of Europe and then come west. And do it in a very brutal fashion. He's a mad man with nukes.

Someone help me out..

Is this guy serious or is it a weak attempt at trolling somehow?

 

[davethevol]

Don’t the winds blow toward Russia?

Which, if this is true, then Putin sounds insane. He really might be trying to destroy everything.

 

[RavinDave]

Wait till you see the price of groceries going into late this summer. You think it's bad now, just wait. Fertilizer prices are spiking for two reasons: The war on energy here, and the Russian issue.

Major raw material for fertilizer being ammonia, major raw material for ammonia being natural gas, of course the cost of fertilizer will be going up, a LOT!

 

[NCFisher]

never cared for them or most hair bands

Silly; I'm pretty sure he meant the Alice Cooper song.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

1. Too little, too late. It should not have taken this for the people there to have that right
2. Will this inspire other NATO countries in Europe to give their citizens the same rights? I mean, Russian invasion is a serious threat, right? Yeah, we know the answer to that. No 2A in NATO countries
3. Will these warhawk neo-liberals now have a change of heart here in the states? Yea, we know the answer to that one, also.

 

[Godfatha]

Someone help me out..

Is this guy serious or is it a weak attempt at trolling somehow?

I think he is serious...seriously off his rocker.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So in other words, wrong?

Keep that same energy when we have discussions about Syria, Libya, Kosovo and Yemen (via Saudi Arabia).

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Which, if this is true, then Putin sounds insane. He really might be trying to destroy everything.

That is the key. At best, it is a sensationalized claim. At worst, it is a fabrication.

 

[Pacer92]

Again. If it was NATO pissing Russia off why arent they attacking NATO?

They are attacking a third party. Justifying NATO. NATO was designed to protect against an aggressive expansionist Russia. Doesnt matter the bs justification Russia uses.

That goes both ways. Ukraine was being used to expand NATO. I don’t think it’s super hard to figure out that Putin is not going to allow a NATO force to be built up on its western and southern borders.

 

[tvolsfan]

Keep that same energy when we have discussions about Syria, Libya, Kosovo and Yemen (via Saudi Arabia).

I have no issues with the intervention in Kosovo. And none of those provide a justification for Russia’s invasion or a defense against criticism of the invasion.

 

[tvolsfan]

That goes both ways. Ukraine was being used to expand NATO. I don’t think it’s super hard to figure out that Putin is not going to allow a NATO force to be built up on its western and southern borders.

Why not ask Ukraine what they want? Oh, that’s right. Because they wouldn’t choose Russia.

 

[luthervol]

1. Too little, too late. It should not have taken this for the people there to have that right
2. Will this inspire other NATO countries in Europe to give their citizens the same rights? I mean, Russian invasion is a serious threat, right? Yeah, we know the answer to that. No 2A in NATO countries
3. Will these warhawk neo-liberals now have a change of heart here in the states? Yea, we know the answer to that one, also.

And how effective are those guns going to ultimately be? I think what is being proven is that unless you are equally armed - planes, bombs, etc.....it doesn't really matter; especially when facing a foe who has no problem with the death of innocents and the complete destruction of entire cities.

 

[Godfatha]

That goes both ways. Ukraine was being used to expand NATO. I don’t think it’s super hard to figure out that Putin is not going to allow a NATO force to be built up on its western and southern borders.

If he wasn’t actively trying to mettle and expand into neighboring countries, they likely wouldn’t feel the need to join NATO.

 

[lawgator1]

That goes both ways. Ukraine was being used to expand NATO. I don’t think it’s super hard to figure out that Putin is not going to allow a NATO force to be built up on its western and southern borders.

Hi Tucker.

 

[NCFisher]

Lol, as if anyone is mining VN for useable tactics. I bet you help call plays on Saturday too, but dont post those either.

DDs is Jack Sells...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Meanwhile...

So Many Holes in SWIFT Sanctions on Russia, those Sanctions are Useless

FAZ informs us that the Swift sanctions are essentially dead in the water. Only seven banks, representing a quarter of the Russian banking sector, are subject to the sanctions. What happened is that once this sanctions list went through the mill of talks with member states, only this pared-down lists survives. The EU originally promised to hit 70% of the Russian banking system. One reason for the exclusion of Sberbank is the deposits held by savers in the bank’s EU subsidiaries. It would have triggered massive deposit insurance claims.

Putin did not anticipate the central bank sanctions. That has turned out to be a real problem for the Russian economy. But he anticipated correctly that the west would continue to buy Russian gas and oil. We think the Russian leadership is also right in their assumption that the main effect of the Nord Stream 2 closure is not so much to make us less dependent on Russian gas, but to increase the price of gas.

 

[Pacer92]

If he wasn’t actively trying to mettle and expand into neighboring countries, they likely wouldn’t feel the need to join NATO.

We were the ones that orchestrated a coup in 2013. THAT is the reason behind NATO expansion.

 

[Pacer92]

Hi Tucker.

Hi Richard

 

[MontyPython]

Ukrainian air defense seemingly still up and running...

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[tvolsfan]

We were the ones that orchestrated a coup in 2013. THAT is the reason behind NATO expansion.

Yeah, that isn’t true. Literally only one country and it’s state propaganda even argues that.

 

[Pacer92]

Yeah, that isn’t true. Literally only one country and it’s state propaganda even argues that.

It’s exactly true. We financed and orchestrated a coup in 2013...it’s not even questionable.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yeah, that isn’t true. Literally only one country and it’s state propaganda even argues that.

You are just gaslighting now.

 

[tvolsfan]

It’s exactly true. We financed and orchestrated a coup in 2013...it’s not even questionable.

You are just gaslighting now.

Lol

This was silly to argue before the invasion, but it’s basically childish to argue it after seeing the response of the Ukrainian people to the invaders. The Ukrainian’s ousted their puppet president, not Langley. It’s not surprising Lukashenko-lite fled to Russia.

 

[evillawyer]

Make Russia Great Again!