War in Ukraine

[evillawyer]

 

[landscapingvol]

I never said that this operation wasn't killing civilians. I've clearly stated that it is the intent to minimize as many casualties as possible, unlike a NATO exercise.

And at this point, after finding out about the bio labs and the understanding that this has really been a series of attacks on Donbas for 8 years by the Ukrainian regime, we will see when all of the dust settles if the truth going on over there still makes Putin the "bad guy"/"Hitler" you all want to make him out to be. Just like this same corrupt, lying azz media did with COVID over the last few years, the same will happen in this situation.

In the meantime, get your laughs in while you can...

What NATO offensives are you referring to exactly? Kosovo? Bosnia? I guess you could use the Persian Gulf War but involved a lot more countries than NATO but was primarily the US military. You keep speaking as if NATO has conducted massive offensives in other nations and destroyed countless cities.

 

[tvolsfan]

Hope that’s true

 

[hog88]

They are ethnicities. Just because someone has white skin doesn't mean they are "white". We've gone over this before in here.

Serious Clark? What exactly does it mean then?

I get that you can define ethnicity as people with common cultural traditions but you're really reaching.

 

[LouderVol]

So the Ukrainian regime should have just continued to attack the Donbas? After 8 years of fighting?

Here goes Ras again telling sovereign nations what they should do. Or at least implying condemnation of the actions of that sovereign nation.

 

[hog88]

So the Ukrainian regime should have just continued to attack the Donbas? After 8 years of fighting?

If you're going to rebel you better win. No different than if we had another civil war, you wouldn't want Canada or Mexico picking sides and invading.

 

[landscapingvol]

Here goes Ras again telling sovereign nations what they should do. Or at least implying condemnation of the actions of that sovereign nation.

It is strange nation to be defending

 

[LouderVol]

The Guanche people of the Canary Islands were their own unique ethnic group before Spain invaded and wiped out most of the group. From my understanding many Guanche people were also taller than most other white skinned people at the time.

Berbers and Basque are also uniquely different ethnic groups.

Doesnt really matter what they are. The Soviets/Russians killed off, or Gulag'd, Ukrainians, Crimeans/Tatars by the millions and moved in ethnic Russians, same thing china is doing in their west.

This time the people crossed the border, not the other way around.

Doesnt justify what Russia is doing, or make the fighting over the last 8 years "worse".

It's just noise to sell on the state run media.

 

[DonjoVol]

Those are nationalities not ethnicities.

There are nations and nations consist of different ethnic groups. For example, in Ukraine you have Ukrainians, Russians, and Poles. Those 3 are their own unique ethnic groups. Just like you have Ukrainians and Russians here in the U.S.

 

[landscapingvol]

Ukraine and Russia isn't an ethnic group, they are mostly Slavs which is the ethnic group

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

What NATO offensives are you referring to exactly? Kosovo? Bosnia? I guess you could use the Persian Gulf War but involved a lot more countries than NATO but was primarily the US military. You keep speaking as if NATO has conducted massive offensives in other nations and destroyed countless cities.

They have. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Libya, 2003 Iraq... Isn't that enough?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Hope that’s true

CNN saying this? That means Russia is in full control of the situation more than likely.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

If you're going to rebel you better win. No different than if we had another civil war, you wouldn't want Canada or Mexico picking sides and invading.

Of course not. That is why its puzzling to me why you think it is OK for the US to arm the Ukrainian side in this civil war.

 

[hog88]

Of course not. That is why its puzzling to me why you think it is OK for the US to arm the Ukrainian side in this civil war.

We shouldn't have armed the Ukrainian govt but when the Russians started arming the rebels it was inevitable we were going to counter.

 

[DonjoVol]

Ukraine and Russia isn't an ethnic group, they are mostly Slavs which is the ethnic group

The ethnic groups are Ukrainian and Russian. Stop being lazy.

 

[LouderVol]

Of course not. That is why its puzzling to me why you think it is OK for the US to arm the Ukrainian side in this civil war.

Russia/Ukraine is a civil war? I thought the Soviets were long gone and completely separate from Russia?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

We shouldn't have armed the Ukrainian govt but when the Russians started arming the rebels it was inevitable we were going to counter.

How was it inevitable that we were going to insert ourselves in that civil war?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The ethnic groups are Ukrainian and Russian. Stop being lazy.

My gawd, they are arguing semantics.

 

[0nelilreb]

Russian is an ethnic group. Just like Ukrainian, Moldovan, Polish, Irish, Scottish etc.

Ask Russians and Ukrainians if they see themselves as the same and see what response you get. Their skin color just happens to be white.

Yep the ones I know fight and argue amongst themselves as much or more than we do ( north south east and west ) , if you want to hear the difference , just put a translator on and listen to the different dialects , some won’t even translate into English and if it does it’s hilarious to try and follow a conversation between them .

 

[DonjoVol]

My gawd, they are arguing semantics.

Funny how some people go out of their way to claim most people with white skin belong to the exact same ethnic group.

 

[Grand Vol]

GV calling it as he sees it.

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One of two things...

The results were taken before gas prices shot up higher than Hunter Biden in an Arkansas strip club.

Or the question didn't include the end price and/or people hadn't gassed up when they answered.

 

[hog88]

How was it inevitable that we were going to insert ourselves in that civil war?

Once Russia inserted itself they knew we would follow.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Once Russia inserted itself they knew we would follow.

And again, why was it automatic that we should have jumped in? Ukraine is not in NATO. Nor is Ukraine even in our strategic interests.

 

[DonjoVol]

And again, why was it automatic that we should have jumped in? Ukraine is not in NATO. Nor is Ukraine even in our strategic interests.

Some of our politicians have financial interests over there. That's why we jumped in over the years.

 

[evillawyer]

Thread worth reading.