Was Golesh the "secret sauce" to the Heupel offense?

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Golfprovol said:
We do not have a coach problem, a system problem, a predictability problem. What we do have is a QB problem. I have explained it a few times in other threads that the QB this year was the issue. Not that Nico is bad or wont be the guy we want him to be, but this year he could not process information fast enough. Same with Joe. Our offense is built to go fast, there is no misdirection, no motion, nothing to move the eyes of the defense. It is made to be fast, so fast that defenses have to mainly play a base.

Our offense slowed down the last 2 years because our QB's could not process what the defense quick enough. This gave the defense time to see our formation and adjust. Nico had predetermined receives to throw the ball to and we ran simple plays because of his processing time and the OL.

When Hendon was here he was a 5th year QB, he could process the information quickly and get us into the right formation and get the ball snapped quick. We ran the same plays then as now, the defense just did not have time to adjust or get lined up correctly.

Think about when Hendon got to the red zone, we slowed down and scoring became much more difficult. In 2022 we were much more deadly from the 40 than we were from the 15.

If Nico gets quicker, our pace gets quicker, and teams will not be able to adjust. 2022 Georgia was 27-13 with a defensive secondary built in the image of a high school team.

If we get Nico to read the defense quicker, or go to someone who can, then we will speed up and these conversations can go away.
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There was a lot more motion in 2022. It’s how they got the mismatches they wanted while going fast.
 
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Coach Heuple calls the plays. But it’s the OC who’s job it is to teach and explain the plays to the players. Hooker once said the game slowed down when he knew how the plays worked but really clicked when he knew “why.” Golesh may be a better teacher in conveying the how’s and why’s than Halzle.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
The system is innovative, but the play calling is predictable. It relies on mismatches and tempo. We didn’t have much of either this year. Ultimately we’ll need to evolve. I definitely don’t think it’s time to scrap it. Heupel is a very innovative offensive coach. He has some beliefs that I think he should adapt, but he’s no dummy.
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Correct. If we can get to a spot where, at our foundation, we have a strong D every year, it will give JH some grace to figure things out. As you pointed out, JH is no dummy... and he is a competitor...If you look at his pressers after losses, I think he hates to lose more than he loves to win. Am sure he's self aware and knows some things need to change on offense.
 
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greenbacknative said:
We captured lightning in a bottle the day he arrived...
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Definitely, w/ Hooker and it still Milton got the early starts...which is what I worry about w/ JH having same "seniority pecking order" mindset that tanked Fulmer...getting the best athletes on the field...we had underperforming WRs all year but couldn't figure out how to get Matthews integrated into the gameplan. We definitely got a few sightings of his talent. Very puzzling to me.
 
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Why can't it just be a combination of all these things?

A. The play calling has become predictable
B. They haven't been able to find a QB replacement for Hooker
C. Golesh left and his replacement wasn't ready for the promotion
D. Recruiting is not where it needs to be
E . They are not using the portal enough to fill gaps.
F. The team doesn't make adjustments coming out of the half
G. The team lacks discipline
H. AD White gave Heupel an extension and raise too soon
I. Inability on Heupel's part to upgrade the coaching staff
J. Judging off Heupels appearance, lack of shower discipline

Feel free to add to this and let's see if we can get all the way to z.
 
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As the saying goes, “Iron sharpens iron.” I don’t believe Halzle is capable of truly challenging Heupel’s mind and thought process in the way that’s necessary. The real question is whether Heupel is willing to put himself in a position to be challenged, or if he’s convinced that his way is the only way.

Getting blown out by OSU will either serve as a wake-up call for Heupel, highlighting the inefficiencies within his team and staff and motivating change, or he will double down on his current approach.

If it’s the latter, I fear the OSU loss could mark the beginning of the end for the Heupel era.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Hooker was good, but take Hyatt out of that offense and it's not as successful.
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True. He had speed and a knack for getting open. But Hendon’s decision making ability was off the charts too.
But all of that being said, Hendon Hooker was none of that at Va Tech. Maybe, just maybe that switch will come on for Nico……and he’ll find a burner with hands, like Hyatt.
 
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DaddyChad said:
You think that is limits of the system or limits of the personnel running the system?
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In 2022 we put fear in teams by throwing deep early and often. Yes, we had the talent to do so, but I think we have to continue to do that if we want to make other teams defend the entire field. We are so predictable now, no deep balls, power left, power right wide out screen. We only run outside the tackles against the weaker teams. However, we won 10 games and were in the playoff, so it is not all “woe is me”.
 
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