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[hog88]

Land of the free, indeed.

if you can manage to stay out of the CJS it isn’t bad.

 

[EasternVol]

How can you not see an effective correlation after stating the very opposite just before?

How did I state the opposite? Small countries being easy to govern is easy to control is easy to impose dictates.
I don't think there's a strong correlation between population size and freedom. In countries with large physical distances and/or areas difficult to access it's more of a pain for the revenuers to find someone, but if they're motivated enough they'll find them.

 

[n_huffhines]

Got the eat food to survive.

It's so simple

 

[EasternVol]

They also don’t take into account that in most all of the countries listed above us you can be arrested for “hate” speech or even being in possession of certain swag. Most you can’t even defend yourself or your property, choose your healthcare and in most their criminal justice systems you are guilty until proven innocent. But hey their government mandates everyone gets 4 weeks vacation and you can get low interest loans from the government to pay for them so they’re freer.

I've been surprised at some of the autocratic measures (and how they were done) taken by countries I had assumed were on par with us for personal freedoms, like the gun bans in Australia and NZ, people arrested really unjustly in the UK for hate speech, and Canada's response to the COVID protests.

 

[EasternVol]

I see your anecdote and raise you one actual data sample

Incarceration Rates by Country 2022

We're number one baby! Man that's bad.

 

[C-south]

if you can manage to stay out of the CJS it isn’t bad.

Easier said than done for addicts and criminals.

 

[EasternVol]

Easier said than done for addicts and criminals.

And random folks in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[AirVol]

We're also free enough for mental vegetables like you to speak openly about, well, anything you have the balls to say.

Joe can confirm that.

 

[AirVol]

We're number one baby! Man that's bad.

If 14% of the population that commits 60% of violent crimes, those numbers would look much better.

 

[EasternVol]

If 14% of the population that commits 60% of violent crimes, those numbers would look much better.

But it happens. Creating and maintaining a permanent underclass has done nobody any good in the long term.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

If 14% of the population that commits 60% of violent crimes, those numbers would look much better.

So, what, are you saying our stats would look better if we didn't factor in non-whites?

Like, just say it. Don't tiptoe around it like a poon.

 

[lukeneyland]

Hard not ask questions about the Vax. I lean towards him being murdered. I find it preposterously unlikely that he died of natural causes

 

[lukeneyland]

Vaccine got him.

The possibility shouldn’t be dismissed

 

[AirVol]

So, what, are you saying our stats would look better if we didn't factor in non-whites?

Like, just say it. Don't tiptoe around it like a poon.

It’s the democrat way.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

It’s the democrat way.

Yeah, and that's exactly what you're doing right now.

Answer my question.

 

[FLVOL_79]

if you can manage to stay out of the CJS it isn’t bad.

Thats a white supremacy tenant tenet you hate monger!

 

[FLVOL_79]

So, what, are you saying our stats would look better if we didn't factor in non-whites?

Like, just say it. Don't tiptoe around it like a poon.

Yes.

Same goes for academics. Its basic math.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Hard not ask questions about the Vax. I lean towards him being murdered. I find it preposterously unlikely that he died of natural causes

Probably, and that sucks for him (obviously) and his family and friends. But folks need to do a gut check here and realize that your activist lifestyle that you can get away with in the west doesn't really fly in 2 and 3 world sh!tholes ruled by totalitarian regimes, especially muslim ones.

 

[n_huffhines]

If 14% of the population that commits 60% of violent crimes, those numbers would look much better.

You mean to tell me that we enslaved a group for generations and then treated them as second-class citizens for subsequent generations, and then started waging wars on social issues to keep them down, and then that group is disproportionately incarcerated (many of which aren't even crimes that hurt people)? This is what people are talking about when they discuss critical race theory. America has to own all of it, buddy. You're not winning the argument with this racial comment. The point is that the incarceration rate shouldn't be this high.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Yes.

Same goes for academics. Its basic math.

That's fine to objectively state it, albeit with none of the obvious outside factors being accounted for.

It's just the fact that AirBall and other posters constantly make posts like that. If you're going to be a racist piece of sh*t, be a racist piece of sh*t. Don't dance around it like a frail little wuss.

 

[FLVOL_79]

That's fine to objectively state it, albeit with none of the obvious outside factors being accounted for.

It's just the fact that AirBall and other posters constantly make posts like that. If you're going to be a racist piece of sh*t, be a racist piece of sh*t. Don't dance around it like a frail little wuss.

True. I've got no problem with that.

That being said the cultural and racial makeup of the US makes it real hard to accurately pit against other countries for things like crime, education ,etc, for one reason or another.

 

[FLVOL_79]

You mean to tell me that we enslaved a group for generations and then treated them as second-class citizens for subsequent generations, and then started waging wars on social issues to keep them down, and then that group is disproportionately incarcerated (many of which aren't even crimes that hurt people)? This is what people are talking about when they discuss critical race theory. America has to own all of it, buddy. You're not winning the argument with this racial comment. The point is that the incarceration rate shouldn't be this high.

Technically "We" didnt do anything. Just like "we" didn't beat Alabama this year in football.

In fact the large majority of White Americans (or Americans in general but your post is geared towards Whites) didn't arrive in this country until long after slavery was gone.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

True. I've got no problem with that.

That being said the cultural and racial makeup of the US makes it real hard to accurately pit against other countries for things like crime, education ,etc, for one reason or another.

You're right. Most other countries didn't have a slave class 6 generations ago.

We're a cultural petri dish of our own design. My statement stands. The notion that we are the pinnacle "land of the free" is a crock of ****.

If you're only argument is little more than "b-b-but black people!'' then you don't really have one.

 

[FLVOL_79]

You're right. Most other countries didn't have a slave class 6 generations ago.

We're a cultural petri dish of our own design. My statement stands. The notion that we are the pinnacle "land of the free" is a crock of ****.

If you're only argument is little more than "b-b-but black people!'' then you don't really have one.

I remember leaving a club in Germany at like 1 am and I couldn't find any place open to eat. Thats when I knew America was #1.

Then I read that its super easy to get a suppressor in Europe while I have to jump through ATF hoops here. Thats when I realized we might be #1 in Waffle Houses, #1 in civilian gun sales, but definitely not #1 in fun gun accessories.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

He dealt with stress, was overworked, and was ill. He's close to 50. People like that die every day in this country.....