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#1,977
DinkinFlicka said:
I haven't had time to stop by yo momma's lately.

I get it. You guys love agreeing with each other but god forbid any contrary views are brought before y'all. I'm just asking for data, evidence, or even a modicum of substance to back the argument, but you guys think I'm ornery because of it. I'm not ornery. I just detest when people form opinions based off views they pull out of their ass.
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Hell man, you can’t even acknowledge basic physics. You think illegals are all coming here with cirque du soleil skills or siege ladders like the ogres has in LOTHR. Shat, I’ve listened to your drivel for years on this forum. You’re never serious and always condescending towards any conservative.
 
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#1,978
DinkinFlicka said:
Yup. Let the herd thin itself.
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I'm beginning to think this is the best way to go. If you're that fu***** dumb to even try heroin, good luck to you. You make choices and sometimes choices are a final life ending choice.

The crux is, don't ask for sympathy or apathy, don't expect anyone, your family, friends, community, government, anyone to be obliged to help or save you.

What everyone seemingly forgets (and for those that do, just do nothing but watch COPS and LIvePD) there are a lot of dumb people out there (330 million people in the USA, try to comprehend how many f***** people that is, 330 MILLION), and so impervious to life outside of their own existence and could care less how their choices affect and have effects on other's. Who am I to stop you from being an idiot.

Whatever your vice is, it's yours and it's your cross to bare, and if you want to be a druggie, go ahead, just expect nothing, except the outcome on your life from your choices, and live with them, shut up, and take ownership and live with whatever consequences that come from them.

Is it sad, yes. Is it right, I don't know. But, I do know that nature, and "life" in and of itself, is and can be extremely unforgiving. Try to make the best choices to keep you alive another day.
 
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Mick said:
There were some false stats being thrown out in general which led to my misunderstanding of the information you brought. Some people were trying to minimize the importance of this seizure. I thought you might have wanted to quote one of those people. Sorry if my post seemed combative.
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Who are you and what have you done with Mick?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
All it takes is a basic understanding of the science of addiction to realize how ridiculous the "legalize everything" argument is. You are welcome to debate with people like Dink, but I've found it a fruitless pursuit. I've got enough experience and medical education to know the truth, and you probably know it too.
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I'm sorry, are you a case by case medical professional or a macro statistical sociologist, because the former makes you about as informed as a construction worker on this particular subject. News flash: we all know fentanyl is lethal. I don't need a person who checks step petri dishes for a living to tell me that.

The proposed model has worked before, so what in the hell is your argument?
 
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tennvols77 said:
I'm beginning to think this is the best way to go. If you're that fu***** dumb to even try heroin, good luck to you. You make choices and sometimes choices are a final life ending choice.

The crux is, don't ask for sympathy or apathy, don't expect anyone, your family, friends, community, government, anyone to be obliged to help or save you.

What everyone seemingly forgets (and for those that do, just do nothing but watch COPS and LIvePD) there are a lot of dumb people out there (330 million people in the USA, try to comprehend how many f***** people that is, 330 MILLION), and so impervious to life outside of their own existence and could care less how their choices affect and have effects on other's. Who am I to stop you from being an idiot.

Whatever your vice is, it's yours and it's your cross to bare, and if you want to be a druggie, go ahead, just expect nothing, except the outcome on your life from your choices, and live with them, shut up, and take ownership and live with whatever consequences that come from them.

Is it sad, yes. Is it right, I don't know. But, I do know that nature, and "life" in and of itself, is and can be extremely unforgiving. Try to make the best choices to keep you alive another day.
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Nope. Every life is precious to these p***ies.

That is, until that human life needs financial assistance or health insurance.

Hypocrites, the whole lot of them.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Sorry if I value human life so much that I believe drugs like fentanyl should never be legalized. Its comical that people like you believe that if every drug was legal, everyone would just be civilized drug users. Its utterly foolish.
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If you valued human life, you would do your due research instead of being qn ignorant rube who throws around "human life" to anyone dumb enough to buy it. My model has been tried, and it has worked. The only argument idiots like you pose against it are "well Portugal ain't 'merica!" which is, in fact, a poor argument with about as much substance as stale bran.
 
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Roustabout said:
Hell man, you can’t even acknowledge basic physics. You think illegals are all coming here with cirque du soleil skills or siege ladders like the ogres has in LOTHR. Shat, I’ve listened to your drivel for years on this forum. You’re never serious and always condescending towards any ****ing idiots.
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fyp

I'm more conservative than you will ever be.
 
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#1,984
Been gone a while....did they finish raising the billion dollars yet? Did they finish the wall? I wanted to go and take pictures in front of it.
 
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#1,985
tennvols77 said:
I'm beginning to think this is the best way to go. If you're that fu***** dumb to even try heroin, good luck to you. You make choices and sometimes choices are a final life ending choice.

The crux is, don't ask for sympathy or apathy, don't expect anyone, your family, friends, community, government, anyone to be obliged to help or save you.

What everyone seemingly forgets (and for those that do, just do nothing but watch COPS and LIvePD) there are a lot of dumb people out there (330 million people in the USA, try to comprehend how many f***** people that is, 330 MILLION), and so impervious to life outside of their own existence and could care less how their choices affect and have effects on other's. Who am I to stop you from being an idiot.

Whatever your vice is, it's yours and it's your cross to bare, and if you want to be a druggie, go ahead, just expect nothing, except the outcome on your life from your choices, and live with them, shut up, and take ownership and live with whatever consequences that come from them.

Is it sad, yes. Is it right, I don't know. But, I do know that nature, and "life" in and of itself, is and can be extremely unforgiving. Try to make the best choices to keep you alive another day.
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I used to frequently use opiates. I would still call it my drug of choice, and heroin's first intravenous high will forever remain as my all-time most precious moment that the majority of people on Earth will never achieve. I haven't touched the stuff in years, but I can tell you that laws were the last thing on my mind when I first decided to try it, and they remain as such to this day.

Had I continued, I would be dead. To this day, I take no issue with that. I deserved it, and every hard addict deserves it, too. An addict will do more collateral damage while using than he will by leaving this world. If a child's doctor wants to come on here and throw his wet peter around because "science!" then I'd like to offer firsthand knowledge and experience so he can sit down and shut the **** up about just what he knows.

People are terrified of taking ownership, and this thread is proof that people are even more terrified of letting others take ownership for themselves.

Conservatives? Bull ****. They want laws and regulations to run lives as much as the damned liberals do. Two sides of the same overbearing coin.
 
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Border Patrol agents find another tunnel at U.S.-Mexico border, Texas tunnel nears 60 feet in length

border Patrol agents in Texas found a surprise during a patrol: another tunnel on the U.S.-Mexico border that would run along property proposed for a portion of President Donald Trump's proposed wall.

The tunnel, located outside of Hidalgo, Texas, is near a portion of the border wall put up about 10 years ago, the Rio Grande Guardian news service reports. Additionally, the tunnel begins at the bottom of a 30-foot embankment on the Rio Grande and is impossible to see unless you are on the river.

The tunnel, which was still being constructed at the time it was discovered, is about 1,500 feet downriver from the Hidalgo County Water Improvement District No. 3 pump station.

"You've seen them on the news in Arizona and New Mexico and stuff like that, but I’ve never seen one in the [Rio Grande Valley]. That's the first one I’ve seen in our backyard,”
The tunnel is about 60 feet in length, and Brand said he thought it was going to a nearby sports rental business.

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#1,987
Mick said:
Border Patrol agents find another tunnel at U.S.-Mexico border, Texas tunnel nears 60 feet in length

border Patrol agents in Texas found a surprise during a patrol: another tunnel on the U.S.-Mexico border that would run along property proposed for a portion of President Donald Trump's proposed wall.

The tunnel, located outside of Hidalgo, Texas, is near a portion of the border wall put up about 10 years ago, the Rio Grande Guardian news service reports. Additionally, the tunnel begins at the bottom of a 30-foot embankment on the Rio Grande and is impossible to see unless you are on the river.

The tunnel, which was still being constructed at the time it was discovered, is about 1,500 feet downriver from the Hidalgo County Water Improvement District No. 3 pump station.

"You've seen them on the news in Arizona and New Mexico and stuff like that, but I’ve never seen one in the [Rio Grande Valley]. That's the first one I’ve seen in our backyard,”
The tunnel is about 60 feet in length, and Brand said he thought it was going to a nearby sports rental business.

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DinkinFlicka said:
I used to frequently use opiates. I would still call it my drug of choice, and heroin's first intravenous high will forever remain as my all-time most precious moment that the majority of people on Earth will never achieve. I haven't touched the stuff in years, but I can tell you that laws were the last thing on my mind when I first decided to try it, and they remain as such to this day.

Had I continued, I would be dead. To this day, I take no issue with that. I deserved it, and every hard addict deserves it, too. An addict will do more collateral damage while using than he will by leaving this world. If a child's doctor wants to come on here and throw his wet peter around because "science!" then I'd like to offer firsthand knowledge and experience so he can sit down and shut the **** up about just what he knows.

People are terrified of taking ownership, and this thread is proof that people are even more terrified of letting others take ownership for themselves.

Conservatives? Bull ****. They want laws and regulations to run lives as much as the damned liberals do. Two sides of the same overbearing coin.
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Dude.... you're in need of a V
 
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#1,993
DinkinFlicka said:
What's so wrong with taking ownership of actions? I really want to hear a well premised argument from you on this.

I'm fine in that department, thank you very much.
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I got your point about the user being responsible for their own actions and respect it. You just seem a little edgy lately .... that's all
 
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#1,995
lol

Not a wall, but an "enhanced barrier."

Top Democrat: No Trump border wall, but 'some sort of enhanced barrier' may be acceptable

Speaking exclusively to "Fox News Sunday," a top Democrat on the bipartisan congressional committee negotiating a border security compromise indicated that his party would support "some sort of enhanced barrier" -- but not a "wall" like the one President Trump has demanded.

The government is currently funded through Feb. 15, and the committee is racing to reach an agreement to avert the possibility of another partial federal government shutdown over funding for a border wall.

Texas Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar insisted that local officials, instead of the head of the Border Patrol and other federal officers who have called for a wall, should make the final determination on what construction is necessary.

"First of all, we are not going to have a wall," Cuellar told host Chris Wallace, referring to walls as a "14th-century" solution. "Now, we can look at some sort of enhanced, uh, barrier -- that’s certainly something we can look at. But I have to say living on the border, you have to let the local Border Patrol chief have the say-so, and let the local communities be involved so they can come up with, uh, maybe some sort of enhanced barrier -- but again, Washington cannot dictate what sort of barrier and where to put it at."
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Grand Vol said:
lol

Not a wall, but an "enhanced barrier."

Top Democrat: No Trump border wall, but 'some sort of enhanced barrier' may be acceptable
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“I think there’s a good chance we’ll have to do that," Trump said last week, referring to declaring a national emergency.

IMO the most important question surrounding the entire debate is whether Trump declares a national emergency if he fails get his money for a wall. Many if not most people will likely consider this a political move rather than a true emergency.

If he does will it open the door for the next Liberal President to declare gun violence a national emergency and try to implement a ban on some types of weapons, magazine capacity laws or even ammo limitations. They can argue that the availability of guns, high cap magazines, and semi auto military like weapons are leading to more deaths and injury than illegal aliens. (I know guns don't kill people, please don't go there). They can also declare a state of emergency because affordable healthcare is still not available for all for all citizens leading to loss of life and livelihood and wealth. (Certainly more death than is being caused by illegal aliens)
 
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#1,998
Hunerwadel said:
“I think there’s a good chance we’ll have to do that," Trump said last week, referring to declaring a national emergency.

IMO the most important question surrounding the entire debate is whether Trump declares a national emergency if he fails get his money for a wall. Many if not most people will likely consider this a political move rather than a true emergency.

If he does will it open the door for the next Liberal President to declare gun violence a national emergency and try to implement a ban on some types of weapons, magazine capacity laws or even ammo limitations. They can argue that the availability of guns, high cap magazines, and semi auto military like weapons are leading to more deaths and injury than illegal aliens. (I know guns don't kill people, please don't go there). They can also declare a state of emergency because affordable healthcare is still not available for all for all citizens leading to loss of life and livelihood and wealth. (Certainly more death than is being caused by illegal aliens)
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Meh. They’d have to stop people from driving first. More than twice as many people die in car crashes than are murdered in this country.

National healthcare will in fact destroy this country and ruin far more lives.

Proper border security costs pennies compared to national healthcare and every decent place that borders a ****hole has proper border security.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Meh. They’d have to stop people from driving first. More than twice as many people die in car crashes than are murdered in this country.

National healthcare will in fact destroy this country and ruin far more lives.

Proper border security costs pennies compared to national healthcare and every decent place that borders a ****hole has proper border security.
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I don't think, gun violence, healthcare or wall funding are reasons to declare a national emergency but if Trump opens that door others will follow with their own political agendas.
 
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