Web Censorship and Political Bias

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Orangeburst said:
It is all hyperbolic bluster that brings attention to the matter. If anything it will just prompt his supporters to leave Twitter which will affect their bottom line. Twitter received tax breaks at one time and I would think that would prohibit censorship at the time. Getting tax breaks and choosing political sides should be forbidden. I never understood why a celebrity or business would espouse their political views and alienate half their customer base. I always thought Tiger did it correctly.
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It doesn't... although, the government can certainly remove those tax breaks if they want to. Twitter is a private company. Simply receiving tax breaks doesn't make them a government entity.
 
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My goodness. I have never seen people melt down because a guy is rightly shut down from deliberately spreading misinformation. Shockingly, it’s the same people who like to throw around the word snowflake.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It doesn't... although the government can certainly remove those tax breaks if they want to. Twitter is a private company. Simply receiving tax breaks doesn't make them a government entity.
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I said "should", but it is a naive statement.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
My goodness. I have never seen people melt down because a guy is rightly shut down from deliberately spreading misinformation. Shockingly, it’s the same people who like to throw around the word snowflake.
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Throwing out real misinformation is not the issue. It is having someone determine if it is misinformation based on their political view. Sorry, but liberals lie and spin as well.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
My goodness. I have never seen people melt down because a guy is rightly shut down from deliberately spreading misinformation. Shockingly, it’s the same people who like to throw around the word snowflake.
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Trump is a very sensitive man. No doubt about it.

This is a particularly strange situation here. We have Republicans in the Senate, such as Josh Hawley, who are advocating for more government regulation and intrusion into the private sector... and it's just to appease the ego of Donald Trump. The Republican Party is compromising their principles for this idiot who doesn't even understand what the 1st Amendment means.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Throwing out real misinformation is not the issue. It is having someone determine if it is misinformation based on their political view. Sorry, but liberals lie and spin as well.
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Sorry, but Twitter executives have the right to do that, on their own platform. The solution here is for Republicans to come up with their own social media platform and compete for users. The solution isn't regulation or government intrusion into the private sector. This is the United States of America. The solution is always through competition.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump is a very sensitive man. No doubt about it.

This is a particularly strange situation here. We have Republicans in the Senate, such as Josh Hawley, who are advocating for more government regulation and intrusion into the private sector... and it's just to appease the ego of Donald Trump. The Republican Party is compromising their principles for this idiot who doesn't even understand what the 1st Amendment means.
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The republican party’s principles are the same as the democrats principles, power at any cost, country and constitution be damned. This is not a new phenomenon.
 
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When Roger Ailes believed that CNN was biased in favor of Democrats in the early 90's, did he lobby to have CNN shut down or regulated? Or did Roger Ailes pitch the concept of a conservative-leaning cable news channel to Rupert Murdoch, in order to give CNN and Democrats competition within the cable news market? The solution is always found through competition... not more regulation or intrusion from the government.
 
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midnight orange said:
The republican party’s principles are the same as the democrats principles, power at any cost, country and constitution be damned. This is not a new phenomenon.
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Republicans have talked a different game up until now. I never thought I would see a Republican President talking about adding regulation and intruding into the private sector the way Trump currently is.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Republicans have talked a different game up until now. I never thought I would see a Republican President talking about adding regulation and intruding into the private sector the way Trump currently is.
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They talk all kinds of crap. Reps typically talk about fiscal responsibility while being running up more deficits than the democrats. Democrats talk about “truth to power” while being controlled by a wealthy oligarchy. As is shall ever be. They will tell you anything you want to hear.
 
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YouTube Blames System ‘Error’ For Deleting Comments Critical Of Chinese Communist Party

YouTube says it was a system “error” that caused the platform’s moderation system to delete comments critical of China’s Communist Party and not the work of a heavy-handed YouTube censor.

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The Verge reports that YouTube users began flagging the disappearance of YouTube comments containing the Chinese characters for the words “communist bandit” and “50-cent party,” both of which are phrases typically deployed against the Chinese Communist Party, or CCP.

“The former phrase is an insult dating back to China’s Nationalist government,” the Verge says, “while the latter is derogatory slang for internet users paid to defend the CCP from criticism online. It originates from the claim that these users are paid 50 Chinese cents per post.”

YouTube Blames System ‘Error’ For Deleting Comments Critical Of Chinese Communist Party
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Twitter can have double standards if they want to. Twitter can be politically partisan if they want to. Twitter can be pro-Democrat and anti-Republican if they want to be. Twitter is not a government entity. They are a private company. They are allowed to set forth their own terms of service and they are allowed to enforce those terms as they see fit. Censorship from Twitter is not a violation of anyone's right to free speech. The 1st Amendment only applies to censorship from the government. Trump is advocating for a profound government overreach and intrusion into the private sector. This is an abuse of power and it demonstrates an ignorance of the United States Constitution. I thought Republicans were against government regulation and intrusion? The conservatives/Republicans/Trump supporters on this forum should have the sense to see for themselves that Trump is compromising the core values and principles of your party. This is insane.
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They can. But again, it's very easy to understand. When they do they become a publisher and not a platform that sucks off the Gov teat for sweetheart deals and tax breaks. I'm sure Jack would hate to be slapped with a 1.7B tax bill.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
They can. But again, it's very easy to understand. When they do they become a publisher and not a platform that sucks off the Gov teat for sweetheart deals and tax breaks. I'm sure Jack would hate to be slapped with a 1.7B tax bill.
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There would be absolutely nothing wrong with the government eliminating those "sweetheart deals and tax breaks". They really should, but threatening to shut Twitter down or to regulate them is an abuse of power on the part of the President, and if followed through with, it represents a gross government overreach and an intrusion into the private sector. The silence coming from Republicans in Congress over these Trump Twitter threats are very telling about their lack of integrity. Their heads would have exploded if Barack Obama had ever threatened to shut down the Breitbart web site due to their political bias.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There would be absolutely nothing wrong with the government eliminating those "sweetheart deals and tax breaks". They really should, but threatening to shut Twitter down or to regulate them is an abuse of power on the part of the President, and if followed through with, it represents a gross government overreach and an intrusion into the private sector. The silence coming from Republicans in Congress over these Trump Twitter threats are very telling about their integrity. Their heads would have exploded if Barack Obama had ever threatened to shut down the Breitbart web site due to their political bias.
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They just need to have the label "platform" rug yanked out from under them including Facebook and youtube.


You don't get it. China has billions invested in these companies and are implanting CCP people within. You ok with that?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't believe he is stupid enough to sign an executive order which would be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court... but we'll see.
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I am certain that he is.

Because its not about it being unconstitutional. In fact, the more draconian and unconstitutional the better, as far as Trump is concerned.

Keep that ignoramus base excited !!!
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
They just need to have the label "platform" rug yanked out from under them including Facebook and youtube.
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Wrong. Once again, if Republicans/conservatives/Trump supporters don't like Twitter, then they should come up with their own social media platform and compete against them. Roger Ailes didn't like CNN in the early 90's, but he didn't lobby to have them shut down. He pitched a business model to Rupert Murdoch for a conservative-leaning cable news channel in order to compete against them and that channel became Fox News, which is the highest rated cable news channel on television. The solution is through competition, not regulation.

Now, if Republicans/conservatives/Trump supporters do not possess the ability to create their own social media platform? That is their problem. That is not the problem of anyone at Twitter, or the problem of any of the Democrats.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I am certain that he is.

Because its not about it being unconstitutional. In fact, the more draconian and unconstitutional the better, as far as Trump is concerned.

Keep that ignoramus base excited !!!
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The real problem that Republicans have right now, is that liberals are much better with computer science technology than they are. Conservatives/Republicans/Trump supporters haven't created a micro-blogging and social networking service to compete with Twitter and Facebook yet, not because they don't want to, but because they can't. Collectively speaking, they just don't have the imagination, or the necessary creative skill set to do it.

That is not the fault of, or the problem of Democrats.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Wrong. Once again, if Republicans/conservatives/Trump supporters don't like Twitter, then they should come up with their own social media platform and compete against them. Roger Ailes didn't like CNN in the early 90's, but he didn't lobby to have them shut down. He pitched a business model to Rupert Murdoch for a conservative-leaning cable news channel in order to compete against them and that channel became Fox News, which is the highest rated cable news channel on television. The solution is through competition, not regulation.

Now, if Republicans/conservatives/Trump supporters do not possess the ability to create their own social media platform? That is their problem. That is not the problem of anyone at Twitter, or the problem of any of the Democrats.
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It's not wrong. They can either abide by the rules of their "label" or all the deals and tax breaks can disappear. It's one or the other.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The real problem that Republicans have right now, is that liberals are much better with computer science technology than they are. Conservatives/Republicans/Trump supporters haven't created a micro-blogging and social networking service to compete with Twitter and Facebook yet, not because they don't want to, but because they can't. Collectively speaking, they just don't have the imagination, or the necessary creative skill set to do it.

That is not the fault of, or the problem of Democrats.
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And who is pumping money in to these platforms BB? If you aren't a Democrat when you make it you damn sure have to be a year later.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
It's not wrong. They can either abide by the rules of their "label" or all the deals and tax breaks can disappear. It's one or the other.
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I think that the "deals and tax breaks" should be taken away, but the solution to this situation is not through executive orders and more government regulation. It's through competition. So why don't Republicans/conservatives/Trump supporters create their own micro-blogging and social networking service, which they could use to both censor Democrats and exclude Democrats from, while posting politically partisan opinions and debunked conspiracy theories? Because they don't know how to do it. Collectively speaking, Republicans/conservatives/Trump supporters are not as creative as liberals when it comes to cyber-technology. However, that is not the fault of liberals, now is it?
 
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