We'll Find Out Next Year How Much Real Support The Basketball Program Has.

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#76
hatvol96 said:
That's right. I forgot. All of you Pearl sucks take it as an article of faith that any product not put on the floor by a lying piece of scum has to be poor. I get it. Nobody else can ever win here and it's back to Houston Years crowds without Audiotape Bruce there to entertain the mindless masses.
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Yes because I said that. I went to games because the product was exciting, and I loved watching Lofton, Smith, Chism, etc... Just because I stay home and watch a poor product of the years before those players doesn't make anyone not a "real fan." And who was implying that the product was poor? Wouldn't that be you considering you said the bandwagon fans would leave. Here's a little insight: people didn't show up because of Pearl, they showed up because we were winning. You said they wouldn't show up, so does that mean they are not winning?
 
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#78
JamesBenUT said:
Good point. Can't you see the Hatvol's of the Memphis Grizzlies stewing in the their juices, furious that fans would come to watch their team, THEIR TEAM, just to be seen and driving up the ticket prices for THEIR seats that they've sat in since the garden of Eden? And these fans stand up! Oh, my gah! The gall!!!!!
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If there was a "Slow Clap" smile I would use it but this will have to do...

:clapping:
 
#79
#79
JamesBenUT said:
Good point. Can't you see the Hatvol's of the Memphis Grizzlies stewing in the their juices, furious that fans would come to watch their team, THEIR TEAM, just to be seen and driving up the ticket prices for THEIR seats that they've sat in since the garden of Eden? And these fans stand up! Oh, my gah! The gall!!!!!
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Are the bandwagon folks showing up for the Playoffs acting as if Lionel Hollins should be deified and Hubie Brown and Mike Fratello never made the postseason in Memphis? If so, good comparison. If not, just pure stupidity.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Are the bandwagon folks showing up for the Playoffs acting as if Lionel Hollins should be deified and Hubie Brown and Mike Fratello never made the postseason in Memphis? If so, good comparison. If not, just pure stupidity.
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If you honestly think people would've been there had Pearl not won, then you are a moron. People went because we were winning. I went to three games this year, and the actual attendance there was down. Why? Because we starting sucking it up. Just because you have these images in your head of people pleasuring themselves in their seats at a basketball game by looking at Pearl, doesn't portray why people show up. People showed up because they were WINNING. It's not that hard of a concept.
 
#81
#81
hatvol96 said:
The Pearlophiles and The Go To The Game To Be Seen Crowd will be long gone. The frontrunners will be nowhere to be found. The crowds will now consist of people who actually care about and support the program, not some clown in body paint. It'll be a welcome change.
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That's outrageous. It certainly won't be a welcome change. There will never be enough people in Knoxville that truly care about the program to fill all the seats. The money UT will lose is not welcome. And I'm sure recruits will just love seeing a half-full arena as long as you're there to reassure them that at least those fans really care about the program.
 
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#82
golfballs03 said:
That's outrageous. It certainly won't be a welcome change. There will never be enough people in Knoxville that truly care about the program to fill all the seats. The money UT will lose is not welcome. And I'm sure recruits will just love seeing a half-full arena as long as you're there to reassure them that at least those fans really care about the program.
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Best post of the thread.
 
#83
#83
golfballs03 said:
That's outrageous. It certainly won't be a welcome change. There will never be enough people in Knoxville that truly care about the program to fill all the seats. The money UT will lose is not welcome. And I'm sure recruits will just love seeing a half-full arena as long as you're there to reassure them that at least those fans really care about the program.
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So, the program should be disbanded. It can't maintain any level of consistent support. Sounds like we should simply make TBA a giant study hall.
 
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#84
tvols75 said:
Here's a little insight: people didn't show up because of Pearl, they showed up because we were winning.
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I don't think that's necessarily true. It may be for some older fans who followed the program before, but there are definitely those that only followed Tennessee basketball because of Pearl and willingly admitted it.
 
#85
#85
hatvol96 said:
So, the program should be disbanded. It can't maintain any level of consistent support. Sounds like we should simply make TBA a giant study hall.
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Has it ever maintained a consistent level of support outside of the winning years? The same goes for most major sports anywhere. I guess we should just turn everything into a study hall.
 
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#86
LawVol13 said:
I don't think that's necessarily true. It may be for some older fans who followed the program before, but there are definitely those that only followed Tennessee basketball because of Pearl and willingly admitted it.
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We've had plenty of them around here talking about how they are never attending another game and calling for drapery in the upper deck.
 
#87
#87
LawVol13 said:
I don't think that's necessarily true. It may be for some older fans who followed the program before, but there are definitely those that only followed Tennessee basketball because of Pearl and willingly admitted it.
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They showed up because Pearl was winning. 95% of them. Now 5% of the fan base might tell you they knew Pearl personally and didn't want to see him gone, etc, etc... However, if Pearl had came here and not won, he would've been treated just like other losing coaches. The fascination with Pearl to fans was that the fan base was desperate for winning, and Pearl came along and brought winning to a school that was struggling in football and recently in basketball. That's their fascination with Pearl.
 
#88
#88
I prefer the Arena to be full instead of half-full with curtains hung up.
I am not predicting doomsday just because Pearl is not coaching.
8,000 "real" fans and 14,000 "bandwagoners" or whatever you want to call them is much better than curtains.
However, I am not predicting that curtains will be hung up next year. I am just making the point that I don't see how Tennessee is better off with smaller attendance. We will probably find out who will attend the games regardless of the W/L record next year, but I don't see how that is a "welcome change."

If anybody views Pearl to Martin as a welcome change, that is fine. Martin may even end up taking the program further than Pearl did. But, I don't welcome smaller attendance.

As for my own attendance, I live 8+ hours from Knoxville. If we're consistently losing, I probably will make the trip less often. If I lived in Knoxville, I'd be a season-ticket holder, regardless of the W/L record.
 
#89
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tvols75 said:
Has it ever maintained a consistent level of support outside of the winning years?
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You might want to look up how many of the last 40 years UT has been among the top 10-20 nationally in attendance. Of course, that would require you learning something about the history of the program. That's more than you've exhibited the willingness to do to this point.
 
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#90
hatvol96 said:
So, the program should be disbanded. It can't maintain any level of consistent support. Sounds like we should simply make TBA a giant study hall.
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You're the one who said it. I'm saying that's not a welcome change.
 
#91
#91
hatvol96 said:
Not at all what I'm saying. I, unlike the Pearl As Messiah crowd, believe in Tennessee basketball. The idiot fringe and trash worshippers I'm talking about will ultimately be replaced by people who actually care about the program. That will happen far quicker than most anticipate. I'm just saying I'm glad the phonies, the clueless, and the Cult Of Pearl won't be around anymore.
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You have a strange obession with Pearl and those you deem as "fake". I don't think that you are happy unless you have someone to trash on a message board.

Why else would you continue to bring up Pearl when there is very little Pearl talk going on?
 
#93
#93
hatvol96 said:
We've had plenty of them around here talking about how they are never attending another game and calling for drapery in the upper deck.
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Exactly. When Tennessee wins, the fans that have supported the program for years come back. Pearl was able to bring in a fringe element of morons that only supported him. In fact, they supported him over the program in most cases.
 
#94
#94
This is a really, really stupid thread.

I am not predicting that the program will fall off a cliff, but I do expect to lose a lot of games next season. I don't feel that way because Pearl is gone. My opinion has to do with the roster. I hope Martin wins a lot of games with these guys to keep the bandwagoners around.

Being able to park in that lot across the street from Calhoun's for just $5 like I could in 2005 would be a welcome change. But, I'd rather be forced to ride the shuttle across campus, because the place is sold out.
 
#95
#95
hatvol96 said:
Nope. If I look around in five years and he's had the same luck getting another gig Kevin Mackey and Todd Bozeman did, I might cease fire.
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I get it now. You can't stand the fact that a guy you don't respect has had job's that you would dream of having.
 
#98
#98
LawVol13 said:
Exactly. When Tennessee wins, the fans that have supported the program for years come back. Pearl was able to bring in a fringe element of morons that only supported him. In fact, they supported him over the program in most cases.
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2006 census:

Metro Populations:

Provo: 520,851
Lexington: 645,006
Knoxville: 655,400
Syracuse: 742,603
 
#100
#100
LawVol13 said:
I don't think that's necessarily true. It may be for some older fans who followed the program before, but there are definitely those that only followed Tennessee basketball because of Pearl and willingly admitted it.
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Maybe a very small % LV, but there is a small % of everything out there. I think the overwhelming vast majority followed TN basketball because Pearl brought excitement and winning that they had never seen before. He was a good salesman to boot.
 
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