We'll Find Out Next Year How Much Real Support The Basketball Program Has.

Please feel free to move down and fill in the empty seats.
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God I hope I never hear that over the PA again... so embarrassing...

That being said, it was a LOT cheaper to get good seats back then... and we actually had a decent home record. We couldn't win on the road to save our lives though.
 
I want to believe that Hat is overreacting here, but then I remember how idiotic our fanbase was a month ago.
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And I love seeing the Grizzly support, but the folks who blindly assume that the Spurs can't wake up and take us to behind the woodshed for the next two games are slightly annoying.
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I could do without the 'AA problems myself:)...but I dont see anything wrong with showing school spirit.

Havent been on VN long enough to know...so was it the bodypainting incedent or the 'AA probs when you started calling coach Pearl "clown",ect...?

Well before Bruce and the bodypainting incident, Hat hated him. It starts with Deon Thomas telling Bruce that he really wanted to go to Iowa but the money from Illinois was just too good. Hat thinks that it is okay to be a huge cheater and to lie to the NCAA (see his love for Jim Calhoun and Lute Olson) but it is never okay to snitch and pathetic to get caught lying.

He also was/is personally jealous of the man and used to post about watching Pearl cavort with waitresses.

The board has turned for the good, as even his staunchest defenders (there were 4 or 5) have gotten tired of his stick with one exception (a guy who changed his name after his brilliance created my signature).
 
Well before Bruce and the bodypainting incident, Hat hated him. It starts with Deon Thomas telling Bruce that he really wanted to go to Iowa but the money from Illinois was just too good. Hat thinks that it is okay to be a huge cheater and to lie to the NCAA (see his love for Jim Calhoun and Lute Olson) but it is never okay to snitch and pathetic to get caught lying.

He also was/is personally jealous of the man and used to post about watching Pearl cavort with waitresses.

The board has turned for the good, as even his staunchest defenders (there were 4 or 5) have gotten tired of his stick with one exception (a guy who changed his name after his brilliance created my signature).

Pretty sure it had something to do with Pearl pretending to be a "protector of integrity" in his sport while conspiring to snitch in order to steal a recruit.
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Pretty sure it had something to do with Pearl pretending to be a "protector of integrity" in his sport while conspiring to snitch in order to steal a recruit.
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:clapping::clapping::clapping:

Ding, ding, ding - we have a winner!
 
Pretty sure it had something to do with Pearl pretending to be a "protector of integrity" in his sport while conspiring to snitch in order to steal a recruit.
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Funny how that works. Of course, I could spend my time concocting lies about fictitious dinners at Calhoun's with imaginary USC offensive linemen. Who's to say how a man should spend his days?
 
I typically like your input hat, even if I disagree with it from time to time; however, that is the most asinine comment I have seen you make on this website. I feel like its circa 1996 and the sp fans over at listessa are calling everyone a "poseur" because their favorite album is mellon collie and the infinite sadness.

I think the success of the program is directly tied to the quantity not necessarily the quality of our apparent fan base. I would welcome an explanation as to why someone thinks this isn't the case.

Everyone knows Siamese Dream was the best album... but still was "ok" IMO. Smashing Punkins are more fun when they are Chunkin Punkins IMO.
 
I hope BPV is still on vacation from the board. If not, he'll hurt himself laughing at the idea that I "love" Lute Olson.
 
Well before Bruce and the bodypainting incident, Hat hated him. It starts with Deon Thomas telling Bruce that he really wanted to go to Iowa but the money from Illinois was just too good. Hat thinks that it is okay to be a huge cheater and to lie to the NCAA (see his love for Jim Calhoun and Lute Olson) but it is never okay to snitch and pathetic to get caught lying.

He also was/is personally jealous of the man and used to post about watching Pearl cavort with waitresses.

The board has turned for the good, as even his staunchest defenders (there were 4 or 5) have gotten tired of his stick with one exception (a guy who changed his name after his brilliance created my signature).

Anyone who could look at the Deon Thomas incident and not lose respect for Pearl has got an interesting view of ethics.

Also, was he hitting them with this stick you are referring to?
 
Anyone who could look at the Deon Thomas incident and not lose respect for Pearl has got an interesting view of ethics.

Also, was he hitting them with this stick you are referring to?
Some people motivate with the carrot, some with the stick. It's all in how you get where you need to go.
 
Not at all what I'm saying. I, unlike the Pearl As Messiah crowd, believe in Tennessee basketball. The idiot fringe and trash worshippers I'm talking about will ultimately be replaced by people who actually care about the program. That will happen far quicker than most anticipate. I'm just saying I'm glad the phonies, the clueless, and the Cult Of Pearl won't be around anymore.

I agree. I would like to see the Vol Nation become more educated in the sport. So many of our fans follow the pied piper of the time. That's OK to a point to generate interest and sell seats, but when it becomes a "cult" it is a detriment to the program and university. Pearl played everybody that would buy in for all he was worth and upped the ante until he messed in his nest. It was Showtime! It was inevitable to end poorly and if the right amount of due diligence had been completed prior to his hire the UTAD would have gone in a different direction. With that being said, I sincerely hope Pearl learns and changes his past MO. Just because I didn't like it and his coaching style doesn't mean another program might not want him after his time in the penalty box is served.
 
Ha. Yes my typo is funny.

It is funnier that hat continues to try to use USC as a weapon.

Me "We should get some transfers from USC"
(based on a friend inside the AD who said that multiple players were considering transferring)

Hat "We will not get a single visitor from USC much less a transfer"
(talking out of his...per usual)

Malik Jackson is unimpressed with hats knowledge but the man could start a blog like Tony B and try to broaden his reach as he makes crap up.
 
I agree. I would like to see the Vol Nation become more educated in the sport. So many of our fans follow the pied piper of the time. That's OK to a point to generate interest and sell seats, but when it becomes a "cult" it is a detriment to the program and university. Pearl played everybody that would buy in for all he was worth and upped the ante until he messed in his nest. It was Showtime! It was inevitable to end poorly and if the right amount of due diligence had been completed prior to his hire the UTAD would have gone in a different direction. With that being said, I sincerely hope Pearl learns and changes his past MO. Just because I didn't like it and his coaching style doesn't mean another program might not want him after his time in the penalty box is served.
You mean having an AD so weak minded he can be told what to do by guys like the Pumps is a bad thing? Who knew?
 
You might want to look up how many of the last 40 years UT has been among the top 10-20 nationally in attendance. Of course, that would require you learning something about the history of the program. That's more than you've exhibited the willingness to do to this point.

Please show me the stats then because outside of our "in contention for the NCAA" years, they couldn't even hand out free tickets for people to show up.
 
The Pearlophiles and The Go To The Game To Be Seen Crowd will be long gone. The frontrunners will be nowhere to be found. The crowds will now consist of people who actually care about and support the program, not some clown in body paint. It'll be a welcome change.

We may see the day when we wish we could have someone like CBP to "pack em in"....Your slanted opinion personally makes no sense...to have your satisfaction of being right...just guessing here but I'd bet that's just pretty important to you....we will need an empty tomb next season....Man, do I ever hope you're wrong...if they don't turn out...that speaks volumes about CBP....if they do....status quo...either way...you lose....:thumbsup:
 
I agree. I would like to see the Vol Nation become more educated in the sport. So many of our fans follow the pied piper of the time. That's OK to a point to generate interest and sell seats, but when it becomes a "cult" it is a detriment to the program and university. Pearl played everybody that would buy in for all he was worth and upped the ante until he messed in his nest. It was Showtime! It was inevitable to end poorly and if the right amount of due diligence had been completed prior to his hire the UTAD would have gone in a different direction. With that being said, I sincerely hope Pearl learns and changes his past MO. Just because I didn't like it and his coaching style doesn't mean another program might not want him after his time in the penalty box is served.

Drama queenish. Cult? Being played? Pied Piper? Dude, it's entertainment and when people spend money, they want to be entertained. When teams win, the entertainment is more enjoyable. Turning it into some sociological school project is funny. You said it was inevitable to end poorly. I guess the Devoe, Houston, Green, Buzz, Oneil departures ended positively? Just as the Majors, Fulmer, Kiffin departures ended on a positive note. I look forward to this upcoming season. I look forward to learning the game of basketball from you as you edumacate us.
 
We may see the day when we wish we could have someone like CBP to "pack em in"....Your slanted opinion personally makes no sense...to have your satisfaction of being right...just guessing here but I'd bet that's just pretty important to you....we will need an empty tomb next season....Man, do I ever hope you're wrong...if they don't turn out...that speaks volumes about CBP....if they do....status quo...either way...you lose....:thumbsup:

Important enough that there is usually a new thread created just to make that point.
 
Please show me the stats then because outside of our "in contention for the NCAA" years, they couldn't even hand out free tickets for people to show up.
Tennessee's lowest finish in attendance since national numbers began being compiled in '75-'76 is 22nd, with 15 of those years in the Top 10. The numbers for the 8 years prior to that would have easily been in the Top 10. That's a whole bunch of years selling a whole bunch of tickets for a program that only exists because of charisma and bodypaint.
 
Four of those years in the Top 10 in attendance were with basketball savant Wade Houston in charge. Yeah, Bruce Pearl is the only guy who can sell tickets in Knoxville.
 
Tennessee's lowest finish in attendance since national numbers began being compiled in '75-'76 is 22nd, with 15 of those years in the Top 10. The numbers for the 8 years prior to that would have easily been in the Top 10. That's a whole bunch of years selling a whole bunch of tickets for a program that only exists because of charisma and bodypaint.

Numbers are misleading mainly due to capacity. Now care to show us capacity numbers? Because there is no way someone can say that we were top 20 in actual attendance during some of those years before 05 without laughing.
 
Numbers are misleading mainly due to capacity. Now care to show us capacity numbers? Because there is no way someone can say that we were top 20 in actual attendance during some of those years before 05 without laughing.

Is this different from the number of people that attended the game?
 

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