What’s the likelihood that we see civil unrest soon?

[zeppelin128]

You can avoid a vaccine for religious purposes just like you can avoid making a homosexual themed cake for the same reason.

But are folks cool with the State forcing small businesses to not enforce vaccines? Seems like a massive double standard and hypocritical.

 

[C-south]

But are folks cool with the State forcing small businesses to not enforce vaccines? Seems like a massive double standard and hypocritical.

Why should healthy people be forced to take a vaccine they don’t need when vaccines are available for those that need them or think they might?

 

[zeppelin128]

Why should healthy people be forced to take a vaccine they don’t need when vaccines are available for those that need them or think they might?

I have never once said anyone should be forced to take a vaccine by the Feds. Take it or don't, it ain't my business.

 

[C-south]

I have never once said anyone should be forced to take a vaccine by the Feds. Take it or don't, it ain't my business.

Let the states and/or businesses do it for all I care. Most are begging for workers as it is. Let them cut their own throats. See how long the vaccinated want to do the job of 4 or 5 people working 6-7 days a week.

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

I’m arguing that point now. Some seem to think that businesses have the same freedoms as individuals and that’s simply not true. So I disagree. There are a lot of things I can do legally that businesses can not.

Is a business owner not an individual, though? Hypothetically if I own a restaurant and I require that 1)customers wear masks while waiting to be seated,2) I reserve the right to refuse service to anyone wearing a piece of Alabama Crimson Tide apparel, and 3)I require all of my employees to be vaccinated to continue working at my restaurant, am I out of line in your opinion? Is it not my right as an individual and business owner to determine who I will and won't provide service to as well as requirements for entry and employment?

The way I see it, I'm not restricting anyone's individual freedom. Customers and employees alike can either abide by my rules or they can, as free individuals, go to another restaurant/ go find another job. I've not kept up with this thread very much so my apologies if you've already received and answered a question such as this. Also this is truly hypothetical. I wouldn't do any of the things I listed.

 

[zeppelin128]

Let the states and/or businesses do it for all I care. Most are begging for workers as it is. Let them cut their own throats. See how long the vaccinated want to do the job of 4 or 5 people working 6-7 days a week.

Okay.

 

[zeppelin128]

The double standard is laughable.

 

[C-south]

The double standard is laughable.

What is the double standard? Are vaccine mandates in the constitution?

 

[zeppelin128]

What is the double standard? Are vaccine mandates in the constitution?

Is denying services to LGBTQ folks in the Constitution?

 

[Weezer]

Fun times hitting the Shoney's off Broadway.

They tore down the one on Kingston Pike. Sad day.

 

[Weezer]

Any place that lets you eat as much bacon as you want is AOK in my book.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Is denying services to LGBTQ folks in the Constitution?

Does the constitution specifically mention wedding cakes? Thats the real question!!

 

[whodeycin85]

But are folks cool with the State forcing small businesses to not enforce vaccines? Seems like a massive double standard and hypocritical.

For folks who believe states should govern themselves and a federal government should have minimal involvement in state affairs this thinking is consistent...

 

[hog88]

Capital

LOL

 

[hog88]

So what you’re saying is there is no amendment that protects corporations, correct? Didn’t think so. You’re wrong and so are they.

If the same freedoms extend to businesses then why am I free to be a racist POS if I choose but businesses can’t Discriminate? I’ll tell you why. The constitution is for the INDIVIDUAL person. It protects your freedom as a person. Not a business.

HUH? Business can and do discriminate every day.

 

[WBO]

Why should healthy people be forced to take a vaccine they don’t need when vaccines are available for those that need them or think they might?

Really? Do you know how stupid that sounds? "Why should healthy people be forced to take a vaccine . . ."? You take a vaccine when you're healthy. It's a preventive not a cure. It doesn't work if you take it after you're sick.

That's one of the more humorous aspects of this pandemic, anti-vaxxers begging to be given the the vaccine after they contract the virus and are scared of dying.

 

[evillawyer]

Don't you badmouth the breakfast buffet! That's going too far!

The Shoneys breakfast buffet is fantastic. I was just pointing out that Ron looks like he agrees.

 

[utvolpj]

It’s ok that you’re a liberal, leftist, conservative, democrat or republican. We don’t have to agree on all our views. But what you can’t deny, no matter your beliefs or political party, is that what’s happening now is beyond wrong. We are supposed to the land of the free which enables us to choose what category we land in. That freedom is being challenged and as a conservative, I’m not sure how ugly this thing is going to get.

You're not a conservative you're a republican who thinks they're conservative. You're for a party, not ideas.

 

[utvolpj]

Getting back to the OP, the vast majority of VN has always been pro-business rights (hate the gays, refuse them service, etc.). But now I see Conservatives openly supporting the State telling small businesses that they can not enforce vaccine mandates. So I mean it is a fair question to ask. Was it really about personal business rights at all, or just about hating on a minority group?

You really fail to comprehend the market forces being described when taking about businesses choosing who to serve. It's not about hate it's about being able to run it as one sees fit. If someone does not provide a good or service that enough people want to purchase they go out of business. Same happens if they choose to shrink their available market

 

[zeppelin128]

You really fail to comprehend the market forces being described when taking about businesses choosing who to serve. It's not about hate it's about being able to run it as one sees fit. If someone does not provide a good or service that enough people want to purchase they go out of business. Same happens if they choose to shrink their available market

No, it is absolutely about hate. Conservatives are getting a taste of what that feels like, and they are ready to overthrow the government. I mean, look at this board.

 

[hog88]

No, it is absolutely about hate. Conservatives are getting a taste of what that feels like, and they are ready to overthrow the government. I mean, look at this board.

That makes zero sense.

 

[utvolpj]

No, it is absolutely about hate. Conservatives are getting a taste of what that feels like, and they are ready to overthrow the government. I mean, look at this board.

So when I say these things it's only about hate? It has nothing to do with basic market principles? I'm curious if you could link a single post of mine which shows that

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

HUH? Business can and do discriminate every day.

And the truth is, if the government stays out of the way, businesses that discriminate for reasons society deems unacceptable won't survive. That's the beauty of the free market.

 

[zeppelin128]

So when I say these things it's only about hate? It has nothing to do with basic market principles? I'm curious if you could link a single post of mine which shows that

Well I can't link a single post of your's, because I don't recall you ever going down that road. So yay you.

 

[Sandman 423]

Getting back to the OP, the vast majority of VN has always been pro-business rights (hate the gays, refuse them service, etc.). But now I see Conservatives openly supporting the State telling small businesses that they can not enforce vaccine mandates. So I mean it is a fair question to ask. Was it really about personal business rights at all, or just about hating on a minority group?

Oh Zeppy, my boy. While there are a few zealots out there that have refused different groups service, I guarantee you that %99.99999999999 + a few 9's service everyone that pays so try not to peddle that load of crap.