What does Tennessee have to do to make the NCAAT now?

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bleedingTNorange said:
The fact we are popping up on first four out means we are right there as is, fact is barring huge runs there aren’t many teams behind us, the bubble is actually pretty small. In theory if everyone in front of us wins their next 3 then us winning 3 probably isn’t enough? That’s what makes it impossible to say.
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Not necessarily true. If our 3 games are more impressive than theirs we can jump folks
 
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In the past, consideration was given to "finishing the season strong" as in, which teams are currently good enough to deserve a chance. (I can't imagine that has changed.)

If we finish hot--and I mean in all-around play, not just shooting hot--then that will carry more weight with the committee than our early season resume, especially given that we started the season young and we lost our senior point guard early.

If we play 3 more games at last night's level, we have become a tough and worthy team to play.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
He’s very stubborn, I’ve noticed this in past years...if he doesn’t have a team on the bubble he won’t add them until basically forced to do so.
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Yes. He is. He seems to kind of get off on bad-mouthing certain teams each year that I guess he gets asked about a lot. He kind of has that Dan Wolken annoying vibe to him at times. I'm not sure he's really wrong on us though. There's a lot of work left to do.
 
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wtmvol said:
Yes. He is. He seems to kind of get off on bad-mouthing certain teams each year that I guess he gets asked about a lot. He kind of has that Dan Wolken annoying vibe to him at times. I'm not sure he's really wrong on us though. There's a lot of work left to do.
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He said in a nutshell win Saturday or win the Tourney. Can't see how that's so out of line. Also said other teams could play their way out and make it easier for us. A lot needs to happen.
The 3 wins that could put us in are Auburn then Arkansas than Auburn or LSU the way it's looking right now.
 
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goldvol said:
"Yeah, but a quarter of an inch the other way and you would have missed completely" - Mighty Ducks

Alabama
Vanderbilt
Florida
VCU

to name a few close ones that we did win
Lose those and we are sitting at 13-17 right now
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I was merely pointing out games TN either had a clear shot to win, or games where they match upped well. Wiscy, on paper, TN should have matched up. Wiscy just shot lights out. Career game by Pritzl.

But if you wanna go by doom and gloom, if the entire TN team died before the season, then they would have zero wins.

That better for you?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Yes that is true, I was being a bit facetious, just saying that in general that is why it’s hard to try and say what for sure will be enough.
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I got your point. In fact it’s why I am not optimistic because of so many bubble teams winning Lately

if you had ask me 2months ago would I take 9-8 I’d been damn happy. All along I wanted this home game to be for 10-8 and until recently I’d have bet this one game was a play in game.
 
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The committee will most likely consider our last 10 games and what we can do in the SECT... not our entire schedule, because we had a totally different roster from the first half to our 2nd half of season.
Right now we are 5-4 with standalone WINS against Bama , Vandy, and FL.
Our standalone LOSSES is South Carolina.
We currently have SPLITS with Arky and KY.
... if we lose to AU, we become 5-5 with AU sweeping us. Teams that get sweep doesn’t look good.
Saturday is a MUST WIN IMO. and we just have to hope that Bama, FL, and South Carolina keep winning and have a good showing in the SECT.
 
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Dougie_D said:
The committee will most likely consider our last 10 games and what we can do in the SECT... not our entire schedule, because we had a totally different roster from the first half to our 2nd half of season.
Right now we are 5-4 with standalone WINS against Bama , Vandy, and FL.
Our standalone LOSSES is South Carolina.
We currently have SPLITS with Arky and KY.
... if we lose to AU, we become 5-5 with AU sweeping us. Teams that get sweep doesn’t look good.
Saturday is a MUST WIN IMO. and we just have to hope that Bama, FL, and South Carolina keep winning and have a good showing in the SECT.
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We don't need South Carolina and maybe UF to keep winning. We are competing with them for a spot. South Carolina has a similar win against UK, has two quality OOC wins at Clemson and UVA, and then some terrible losses. They also played a much weaker conference schedule- they got MSU, UGA, A&M, Vandy, and us twice while we got them, UK, Auburn, Arkansas, and Vandy twice. That's why people have to remember that a better conference record doesn't mean squat with unbalanced schedules.
 
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BruinVol said:
I got your point. In fact it’s why I am not optimistic because of so many bubble teams winning Lately

if you had ask me 2months ago would I take 9-8 I’d been damn happy. All along I wanted this home game to be for 10-8 and until recently I’d have bet this one game was a play in game.
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I've always said to get to 18 and 10-8 as well. It meant we beat some quality teams.

But you can't lose your first game in the SECT in that scenario.
 
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PandamoniumReigns said:
I was merely pointing out games TN either had a clear shot to win, or games where they match upped well. Wiscy, on paper, TN should have matched up. Wiscy just shot lights out. Career game by Pritzl.

But if you wanna go by doom and gloom, if the entire TN team died before the season, then they would have zero wins.

That better for you?
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You missed my point entirely. Your post was more of the doom and gloom, "if only we had won blah blah blah". It was the same as Emilio Estevez, 'if only the shot had been a quarter inch to the right, it'd have gone in.'
well, it rolls both ways: we lost some close ones as you point out, but we also won some close ones, as I pointed out. That has nothing to do with doom and gloom.
 
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My belief that we have to win two games. Auburn and then first SEC because it will be a team with a high rpi. Get to a second game against the likes of any top 25 rpi team and I think were in whether we win or lose that one.
 
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goldvol said:
You missed my point entirely. Your post was more of the doom and gloom, "if only we had won blah blah blah". It was the same as Emilio Estevez, 'if only the shot had been a quarter inch to the right, it'd have gone in.'
well, it rolls both ways: we lost some close ones as you point out, but we also won some close ones, as I pointed out. That has nothing to do with doom and gloom.
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My apologies. Misunderstood your post.

I see your point as far as looking at both angles. My glasses are heavily tinted orange though.
 
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VolGee4 said:
We don't need South Carolina and maybe UF to keep winning. We are competing with them for a spot. South Carolina has a similar win against UK, has two quality OOC wins at Clemson and UVA, and then some terrible losses. They also played a much weaker conference schedule- they got MSU, UGA, A&M, Vandy, and us twice while we got them, UK, Auburn, Arkansas, and Vandy twice. That's why people have to remember that a better conference record doesn't mean squat with unbalanced schedules.
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Florida is pretty safe, SC not so much...same for Mississippi State, Alabama and Arkansas.
 
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BruinVol said:
I got your point. In fact it’s why I am not optimistic because of so many bubble teams winning Lately

if you had ask me 2months ago would I take 9-8 I’d been damn happy. All along I wanted this home game to be for 10-8 and until recently I’d have bet this one game was a play in game.
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Couple big games tonight
 
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Dr H Lecter said:
I'd be real disappointed if an Auburn win and a tournament game victory are not enough.
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Agreed but losing to SC and A&M by basically giving those games away was disappointing. This team put themselves here and are fighting out of a hole. It can be done but they have got to keep winning.
 
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VolGee4 said:
We don't need South Carolina and maybe UF to keep winning. We are competing with them for a spot. South Carolina has a similar win against UK, has two quality OOC wins at Clemson and UVA, and then some terrible losses. They also played a much weaker conference schedule- they got MSU, UGA, A&M, Vandy, and us twice while we got them, UK, Auburn, Arkansas, and Vandy twice. That's why people have to remember that a better conference record doesn't mean squat with unbalanced schedules.
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If FL and South Carolina start losing their next games, it diminishes the value of our W...especially if the teams have a weaker schedule.
 
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Dougie_D said:
If FL and South Carolina start losing their next games, it diminishes the value of our W...especially if the teams have a weaker schedule.
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4 way tie for 4th place would be interesting.
 
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Gators losing early to Georgia, and they play UK on Saturday. They might have a 3 game losing streak before the SEC tourney.

Lunardi has them as a #9 seed right now
 
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I’ve thought all along that 18 wins keeps us in the bubble conversation. Beating Florida, Kentucky and Auburn down the stretch would be impressive. Take care of Auburn first and momentum may carry us into the tournament. Regardless, given everything that has happened this year, it is a testament to this staff and players that everything didn’t fall apart. Just real proud of this group.
 
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