What's best for the future of UT football: Dooley teams win or... (merged)

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Preds&Vols said:
Really? So you think it made more sense for Kiffin who coached in the NFL and couldn't make it, but not for CDD who, without the resources that he now has (better coaches, better facility, name brand product to sell recruits, ) was in the process of turning a hard-sell program around. Sorry, your reasoning is flawed. Give CDD the same time you generously offered Kiffin and he may just surprise some of you.
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It should be easier for Dooley to adapt to another college football job than it would be for Kiffin coming straight from the NFL...
 
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timmy said:
All of the WAC schools minus Boise State are comparable. If Dooley can't win unless he has vastly superior resources, then he will not win here.
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If this is your reasoning than Kiffin was also a bad hire. NFL teams have the same resources and he failed miserably. So he would not have won here either
 
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VKAman said:
It should be easier for Dooley to adapt to another college football job than it would be for Kiffin coming straight from the NFL...
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Al Davis made a mistake (ask him, he'll confirm this) which is the only reason Kiffin had NFL experience.

It was not his glowing resume.

The Kiffin hire did not thrill me until Monte showed up. Lane was not a home run. The staff was.

I think CDD is not a home run, but I really have no idea. I think his staff will be more important than he ever will.

If his coordinators and coaches are home run hires, we got ourselves a winner.

the jury is still out.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
If this is your reasoning than Kiffin was also a bad hire. NFL teams have the same resources and he failed miserably. So he would not have won here either
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In Oakland that's not true at all...in fact it's almost funny that you think it is...
 
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volstexans said:
Al Davis made a mistake (ask him, he'll confirm this) which is the only reason Kiffin had NFL experience.

It was not his glowing resume.

The Kiffin hire did not thrill me until Monte showed up. Lane was not a home run. The staff was.

I think CDD is not a home run, but I really have no idea. I think his staff will be more important than he ever will.

If his coordinators and coaches are home run hires, we got ourselves a winner.

the jury is still out.
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Al Davis is insane. Ask anyone, they'll confirm this.
 
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VKAman said:
In Oakland that's not true at all...in fact it's almost funny that you think it is...
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So I guess you think that LA Tech and Tennessee are the same then? That was the comparison that was made to disprove a point made by another poster. No one said they thought it was the truth.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
If he was bringing his talent from La Tech..
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Or if he finds Nick Saban on the other sideline instead of Utah State's coach...(though I shouldn't say that, because he had some trouble with that coach too)

I don't know if you realize it, but you're suggesting that coaches are more likely to succeed at higher levels of football. That premise is completely and utterly ridiculous.
 
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VKAman said:
Or if he finds Nick Saban on the other sideline instead of Utah State's coach...(though I shouldn't say that, because he had some trouble with that coach too)

I don't know if you realize it, but you're suggesting that coaches are more likely to succeed at higher levels of football. That premise is completely and utterly ridiculous.
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I never said he would or would not succeed. Im just pointing out that every single person on here can give facts and predictions and say they "know" he won't succeed, but when it really comes down to it nobody knows anything about how he will do.

How do you know he will not succeed?
I think its ridiculous that you say he will fail when all he has done so far has been good for the program.
 
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VKAman said:
Or if he finds Nick Saban on the other sideline instead of Utah State's coach...(though I shouldn't say that, because he had some trouble with that coach too)

I don't know if you realize it, but you're suggesting that coaches are more likely to succeed at higher levels of football. That premise is completely and utterly ridiculous.
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Ouch.
 
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utmba93 said:
To say that there is some doubt about whether CDD can ever win a championship at UT is a gross understatement.

There's also doubt that he can ever win the SEC East.

Instead, many here and in other UT circles, feel the best he can do is win may 10 games in his third year at UT, but never any more than that. In the meantime, many concede that he will help recruiting, but that he can not recruit as well as CLK and company. So, even his recruiting upside is limited versus the trajectory we were on.

Before anyone starts claiming that I don't want to Vols to win, let me clarify in saying that we all want the Vols to win.

Yet, is winning and restoring 'mediocrity' at UT over the next 6 or 7 years better for the Vols program, or would simply seeing Dooley repeat his LA Tech record at UT over the next two years get a proven coach on the Hill faster?
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A real sad useless post.
 
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I so glad that we have the op of this thread on here.
Anybody that knows whats best for the UT-VOL'S needs to be names the head coach.
Oh,wait.He doesn't have ant head coaching experience.Guess that means he will just be a mediocore coach too.So FIRE HIS A--.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
I never said he would or would not succeed. Im just pointing out that every single person on here can give facts and predictions and say they "know" he won't succeed, but when it really comes down to it nobody knows anything about how he will do.

How do you know he will not succeed?
I think its ridiculous that you say he will fail when all he has done so far has been good for the program.
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I don't know. But you're talking about how Tennessee has "more resources" without acknowledging the fact that it also has more pressure and much, much better competition. Realistically, he's pretty much just as likely to do worse than 17-20 here as he is to improve.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
I never said he would or would not succeed. Im just pointing out that every single person on here can give facts and predictions and say they "know" he won't succeed, but when it really comes down to it nobody knows anything about how he will do.

How do you know he will not succeed?
I think its ridiculous that you say he will fail when all he has done so far has been good for the program.
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Don't argue with "thus saith VKAman". Dooley will fail. The omniscient one hath declared it... Amen and Amen.
 
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VKAman said:
I don't know. But you're talking about how Tennessee has "more resources" without acknowledging the fact that it also has more pressure and much, much better competition. Realistically, he's pretty much just as likely to do worse than 17-20 here as he is to improve.
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I totally agree. He is just as likely to fail as he is to succeed.

I just wouldn't write him off in his 1st month, i wanna see what he can do first.
 
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