Whats The SEC Record After Today?

[CountVolcula]

No....Your wrong...Very wrong...He needs a better TEAM...Better PLAYERS...Not sure how you figure this team was an SEC title contender or however you are making them out to be, but IYO they are an amazing team with a bad coaching staff and that my blood sucking friend is just not the truth...Bear Bryant couldn't have won with this team so I'm not sure where you get the idea that We need a better coaching staff....Remember, you can't polish a turd.

The turd that was laid against Vandy when we could have made a bowl game left a bad taste

The team is not as bad as you think because its not why we lost the last 3 years. It was coaching. Yet we see the same results

 

[MFL]

This.

Vol fans please stop with rooting for our biggest competitors! When they do good it hurts our vols. Many on here were excited Aub made it to the BCS then we have a recruit flip to them. I hope every SEC team loses their bowl game![/QUOTe
If they are not competitive then we are just another conference USA with Tennessee included. I think just the opposite. Tennessee has got to turn the drought around then back into the best conference in America.

 

[tmodaniel]

I'm not chanting "SEC SEC!" I just happen to pull for many teams in this conference BECAUSE I LIKE THEM and I enjoy their brand of football.

Apparently that is not allowed here........God forbid some one want another team to win because our boys aren't playing. Living in an non-SEC environment, makes we want to see every SEC team beat the hell out of every other conference. Just being an SEC fan people here hate me, so when the SEC has a good showing at least I have something to strengthen my argument because trying to win a debate based on the Vols play alone the past 9 years will not get you very far.

 

[CCTxVolFan]

I've pointed it out before, but for those of you that don't remember 2004, let alone the beginning of the BCS era:

In fact, according to both Jeff Sagarin's and Jerry Palm's computer rankings, the SEC is currently sixth, neck-and-neck with the Mountain West. If I'm an Auburn fan, I'd think twice about using "the SEC is tougher" as my argument for unseating either USC or Oklahoma. I'm sure the Trojans fans would be quick to point out that the SEC has lost six of its past eight head-to-head matchups with the Pac-10. And I'm sure the Big 12 would be happy to point out its 6-2 record against fellow BCS conferences this season compared with the SEC's illustrious 2-3 mark (its most impressive win coming against 4-5 Oregon State).

SI.com - Writers - Stewart Mandel: SEC argument won't help Auburn in BCS - Tuesday November 9, 2004 6:28PM

How the SEC performs in bowl games is important as long as the current BCS system has been in place. Prior to 1998 I never wanted Alabama to do anything except lose in every game.

How many times in a year do you hear from friends/co-workers/fans of other conferences that the SEC is overrated, not very good, etc. etc.? When the Vols play in a bowl game, other conferences are pulling for the other team, not because we're the Vols, but because we're SEC and the rest of the country is hoping every other conference can dethrone the current King. Essentially it's us (the SEC) vs. the rest of the nation.

Hopefully we're seeing the end of this era, but I'll still have a lasting seething hatred for the rest of the conferences that I'm not sure will end any time in the near future. I'm also unsure that expanding to a 4 team playoff will cure the need to celebrate our conference's victories.

Go ahead and root against all the SEC teams, I get it, I'm thrilled Bama isn't going back to the MNC, but understand why some of us hope the conference succeeds as a whole.

 

[BadJerry20]

UT is what it is (historically) largely because of the strong competition it has played (and dominated) over the years. Butch understands that very well and has been selling that tradition like hot cakes to recruits. Even this year - you think telling recruits "we may be down results wise but have played 6 teams in top 10 this year and are always on the big stage with the chance to win (with your upcoming help)" - if you don't understand how powerful that type of message is with recruits then you are hopeless and will never "get it".

At what point did I say it doesn't help, I actually said it does help. Nice pointless rant, don't forget to put on your Roll Tide hoody when you are cheering for them.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Who wants their rivals to get stronger? It's not like people will think the SEC sucks if we lose bowl games. That "rah rah SEC rah rah!" crap is just silly. How does LSU beating Iowa help us out?

You're a moron if you don't think the SEC losing will taint the conferences perception in people's eyes. Why is that everyone believes the B1G sucks? Perhaps because they lose every big game that matters, especially against SEC competition? Or the ACC? Would it be because they're 3-13 in BCS bowls since it's inception? Winning and losing creates a perception of your identity. Simple.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

No. We did pretty well in the 1990s when only tn Florida were nationally relevant year in year out. Aub lsu bama UGA etc all had losing seasons during that time and were inconsistent at best. Sc Vandy ole miss miss state were horrible. In turn TN thrived. Since the mid 2000s the sec has gotten stronger and stronger and TN is now suffering through its worst records in history. I'll take the 90s and the mediocre SEC thank you

I'd hate to have the skinniest fat chick in a room of fat chicks.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Brethern my ass. Auburn just used their BCS title game apperance to come in and take one of our prize recruits. That worked out so well for us. You guys go right ahead with the SEC rah rah bullcrap.
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So if they had been denied the NC and ended up in the Sugar Bowl, Lambert wouldn't have flipped? I can see him still choosing the 5-7 team because the 12-1 teams isn't playing for a NC. Makes total sense when I use that logic.

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

Yes but once OSU gets loaded with enough SEC level talent we will be constantly watching them play in NC games instead of SEC teams (and then their rivals and conference will become stronger which is NOT what works to our favor long term).

OSU is already loaded with elite talent. Go back and look at the recruiting rankings over the last several years. No matter how you try to spin it, it hurts far less to lose a recruit to an OSU, FSU, USC, or Texas than it does to lose them to a conference rival.

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

So if they had been denied the NC and ended up in the Sugar Bowl, Lambert wouldn't have flipped? I can see him still choosing the 5-7 team because the 12-1 teams isn't playing for a NC. Makes total sense when I use that logic.

Nobody knows for sure, but he was at the Iron Bowl and that game played a huge role in his decision apparently.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

You're a moron if you don't think the SEC losing will taint the conferences perception in people's eyes. Why is that everyone believes the B1G sucks? Perhaps because they lose every big game that matters, especially against SEC competition? Or the ACC? Would it be because they're 3-13 in BCS bowls since it's inception? Winning and losing creates a perception of your identity. Simple.

My argument is that i root against them because i don't want them to win. whether i choose to root for them or not has nothing to do with how good they are. I think Auburn will win Monday but i hope Florida State beats the **** out of them. I hope Vandy loses to whoever they play, i wish Rice would have beat Mississippi State. There's a difference in hoping something happens and believing it will actually happen.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

I'd hate to have the skinniest fat chick in a room of fat chicks.

I wouldn't mind that.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

My argument is that i root against them because i don't want them to win. whether i choose to root for them or not has nothing to do with how good they are. I think Auburn will win Monday but i hope Florida State beats the **** out of them. I hope Vandy loses to whoever they play, i wish Rice would have beat Mississippi State. There's a difference in hoping something happens and believing it will actually happen.

What you were quoted as saying was that losing bowl games wouldn't affect the perception of the SEC's strength. I whole-heartily disagree.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Extremely short-sighted and narrow-minded post. I've lived up north in Indiana and been made fun of for being a "southern redneck from the hills...."

I have also read how ignorant and backwards we folks are down in the south--and particularly from Tennessee. And I AIN'T about to pull for some a-hole conference teams who think I'm ignorant because I was born in the South against my fellow southerners!!!

I am a Southern boy--Southern bred--and I will DANG WELL BE PLEASED to root for my Southern born brethren playing in the best conference in the land!

I am restless and impatient--but expectant and confident that my beloved VOLS will be back sooner rather than later--then it will be a REAL privilege to watch them beat some Wuss-10, Puss-12, and Jr. league Big 12 butts again.....

I understand some of you guys not wanting to pull for our rivals--and some even say AU stole a prize recruit--but I don't care--if Lambert really wanted to be a VOL, he woulda been a VOL....but since he don't--I don't give a CRAP about where he plays because we still gonna make him regret not coming to play as a VOL!

GO SEC!!! SEC, SEC, SEC...

And one final word--NO self-respecting Southern boy can tell me that he'd actually rather see a bunch of boys from Nebraska beat a bunch of Georgia boys (and I absolutely HATE the puppies)!

eace2::salute::rock:

People in Indiana called you a redneck?

That's like someone from Kentucky calling someone else a hillbilly.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

What you were quoted as saying was that losing bowl games wouldn't affect the perception of the SEC's strength. I whole-heartily disagree.

It really killed the SEC when Bama lost to Utah and Florida lost to Louisville, how in the world did a 1 loss team get into the BCSNCG? SEC sucks! Ahhhhh!

 

[VOLnMiami]

The turd that was laid against Vandy when we could have made a bowl game left a bad taste

The team is not as bad as you think because its not why we lost the last 3 years. It was coaching. Yet we see the same results

Players play the game...coaches coach the game...If said players do not follow and execute said coaches orders then losing starts...Which leads us back to square one...The players...You following any of this?...It hitting home yet?...Ok example time...Try to keep up, What position did everyone complain about most this season?..If you said QB you are right!...Go get a cookie...How many QB's did we play this season?...3 of them...Very good!...And how did those 3 do?....Worley is the only one who showed even an inkling of leadership and he still wasn't on an SEC level...Dobbs was a complete bomb and so was Peterman....Granted freshman but I've seen a lot of good freshman qb's in the past..Was it CBJ or the coaching staffs fault they played so badly?...Or was it their playing ability that caused them to play so badly? :question: Coaches can coach you until your ears bleed but in the end it is the players that make the difference.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

It really killed the SEC when Bama lost to Utah and Florida lost to Louisville, how in the world did a 1 loss team get into the BCSNCG? SEC sucks! Ahhhhh!

You seem to be implying all lose except UT all the time and then use two examples as to how it hasn't affected how the CFB world views the SEC. If you think losing BCS games year in and year out to the likes of Utah and UofL coupled with going 1-6 in the other bowl games wouldn't hurt the SEC's future opportunities, then I'm a coondog wasting my time on an empty tree.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

You seem to be implying all lose except UT all the time and then use two examples as to how it hasn't affected how the CFB world views the SEC. If you think losing BCS games year in and year out to the likes of Utah and UofL coupled with going 1-6 in the other bowl games wouldn't hurt the SEC's future opportunities, then I'm a coondog wasting my time on an empty tree.

I hope every SEC team loses every non conference game, except to maybe USC or Notre Dame or Michigan, but they wont. I wish the SEC was 0-6 right now, but we're not. I hope the remaining SEC teams all lose, but they won't. The reality is the SEC may lose one or two here or there, it won't hurt the perception of the conference.

 

[TGVol]

OSU is already loaded with elite talent.

Which is why they have been creeping up in rankings and national recognition/perception over the last few years since Meyer got there (and with his SEC background/success he is able to steal SEC talent). The last thing SEC needs is for that trend to continue.
This is really not that hard to understand... :crazy:

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

I hope every SEC team loses every non conference game, except to maybe USC or Notre Dame or Michigan, but they wont. I wish the SEC was 0-6 right now, but we're not. I hope the remaining SEC teams all lose, but they won't. The reality is the SEC may lose one or two here or there, it won't hurt the perception of the conference.

Exactly, 1 or 2 won't hurt, but your fantasy of everyone but UT losing would hurt. You keep changing your tune.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Exactly, 1 or 2 won't hurt, but your fantasy of everyone but UT losing would hurt. You keep changing your tune.

I want them all to lose, but they won't. That's not changing.

 

[TGVol]

I want them all to lose, but they won't. That's not changing.

Good :good!:
By the way, you must be the most miserable football fan around holidays if it's hurting you that much to see your southern neighbors beat up on the yankees every year. :biggrin:

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Good :good!:
By the way, you must be the most miserable football fan around holidays if it's hurting you that much to see your southern neighbors beat up on the yankees every year. :biggrin:

Not at all. If LSU wins, i say damn and move on. I did buy an FSU shirt to wear Monday though, i do despise Auburn.

 

[TGVol]

I did buy an FSU shirt to wear Monday though, i do despise Auburn.

You do realize you will be pulling for Sal, don't you?

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

You do realize you will be pulling for Sal, don't you?

I give 0 ****s.