White Flight: The Great Exodus From The GOP

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luthervol said:
You are. Trump is now the face of the republican party - yet he's not a republican.
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You happy with a guy who is letting China skull**** us? A guy who has already killed thousands of jobs? Made it much more difficult for diabetics to afford insulin and encouraging the slow death of women’s high school sports?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
You happy with a guy who is letting China skull**** us? A guy who has already killed thousands of jobs? Made it much more difficult for diabetics to afford insulin and encouraging the slow death of women’s high school sports?
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Luther doesn't have much of a moral compass when it comes women snd morality
 
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hog88 said:
Fascism is a far right movement, communism is a far left movement. If two people start at the same place on a circle, one goes right and the other goes left they eventually run into each other.
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No, it is not. It is an ignorant statement. Fascism, communism are the same. Both require an overpowered fed gov.
 
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hog88 said:
If you look at Trumps tenure it doesn't make sense why the dems hated him. He spent like a drunken sailor, didn't do anything to LBTGXYZ citizens, didn't go after Roe v Wade and generally didn't attack any of the Dem sacred cows.
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Trump did destroy their other tramp - the shrew, and he tried to put an end to their immigration policy. Those were the people that the dims needed so they had more reason to enact their socialist policies - gotta have victims - lots and lots of victims. And he absolutely damaged their argument by killing political correctness; without political correctness, all the minority mumbo jumbo and special needs go in the crapper - along with more socialist policies to protect them. What Trump did to the dems was something they couldn't allow; he took their victims away, and they need victims to be socialist heroes. He didn't come straight out and attack dim sacred cows, but he bottled up the making of more of them like the environmental BS that Xiden is pushing.
 
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Volgolfer1618 said:
No, it is not. It is an ignorant statement. Fascism, communism are the same. Both require an overpowered fed gov.
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If two people are standing with their backs to each other and begin walking in a straight line do they eventually become gay for a split second?
 
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Sea Ray said:
These things are cyclical. Biden is on record as saying he'll be the most progressive President ever and it looks like that's exactly what will happen. That's great news for Republicans in 2022 and 2024. It looks like he'll cram through his stimulus bill on reconciliation rather than work with Republicans kinda like Obama did with Obamacare and that had disastrous consequences for Dems in 2010.

This stimulus bill now being debated is a great real life example of which party shows at least a little fiscal sense. The Dems want to spend $1.9T. Republicans $0.6T. Granted both parties are spendthrifts but of the two, there's only one choice for fiscal conservatives. Add to that, open borders, federally mandated $15hr min wage and trans taking over women's sports and folks will be coming back to the GOP in droves.
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Please don't try to ever attempt to lecture the left on fiscal conservatism, the right lost the rights to whatever high ground narrative may have once crafted.

You guys haven't uttered those two words together in a sentence for four years, it's hilarious to think you can kick the door in and tell us that daddy's home.

Buzz off with that.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Trump got more votes in Georgia in 2020 than he did in 2016. Facts.
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But his percent went down from 50.4 to 49.2 while Biden's went up from Hillary's 45.3 to 49.5.
Biden received 600,000 more votes in GA than did Clinton - dwarfing Trump's gains.....Facts - the important ones.
 
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Septic said:
Please don't try to ever attempt to lecture the left on fiscal conservatism, the right lost the rights to whatever high ground narrative may have once crafted.

You guys haven't uttered those two words together in a sentence for four years, it's hilarious to think you can kick the door in and tell us that daddy's home.

Buzz off with that.
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You are correct that neither party is fiscally responsible but that doesn't mean that they're fiscally equal either. I go where the facts lead me and this instance gave me an excellent opportunity to present facts. Even in the 21st century $1.3 trillion is a lot of money. That's the difference in what the Dems want to spend and what the GOP wants to spend. They haven't even spent two thirds of the last C19 stimulus bill. If you don't get that then you do need a lecture
 
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Sea Ray said:
You are correct that neither party is fiscally responsible but that doesn't mean that they're fiscally equal either. I go where the facts lead me and this instance gave me an excellent opportunity to present facts. Even in the 21st century $1.3 trillion is a lot of money. That's the difference in what the Dems want to spend and what the GOP wants to spend. They haven't even spent two thirds of the last C19 stimulus bill. If you don't get that then you do need a lecture
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In just this bill. Of course the repubs added half a trillion without oversight to the first one and Trump promised his next one would be the biggest of anyone, even Pelosi. That's where the facts lead me
 
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utvolpj said:
In just this bill. Of course the repubs added half a trillion without oversight to the first one and Trump promised his next one would be the biggest of anyone, even Pelosi. That's where the facts lead me
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Promises aren't facts and Trump is Trump. If Republicans didn't vote for what he wants then you can't pin this on Republicans.

The HEROES Act was passed by the Dems in the House and rejected by the Republicans cause they didn't like the $3T pricetag

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/16/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-heroes-act.html

Consider that exhibit B
 
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Sea Ray said:
Promises aren't facts and Trump is Trump. If Republicans didn't vote for what he wants then you can't pin this on Republicans.

The HEROES Act was passed by the Dems in the House and rejected by the Republicans cause they didn't like the $3T pricetag

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/16/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-heroes-act.html

Consider that exhibit B
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but you're counting legislation that isn't signed either as your facts

Did Trump sign away a half trillion to his buddy Mnuchin?
 
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utvolpj said:
but you're counting legislation that isn't signed either as your facts

Did Trump sign away a half trillion to his buddy Mnuchin?
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I'm counting legislation cause there are actual votes on the record to count. I'm also using specifics backed up with documentation, something you haven't done
 
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luthervol said:
But his percent went down from 50.4 to 49.2 while Biden's went up from Hillary's 45.3 to 49.5.
Biden received 600,000 more votes in GA than did Clinton - dwarfing Trump's gains.....Facts - the important ones.
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Well, he did get 600,000 more votes from somewhere.
 
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luthervol said:
But his percent went down from 50.4 to 49.2 while Biden's went up from Hillary's 45.3 to 49.5.
Biden received 600,000 more votes in GA than did Clinton - dwarfing Trump's gains.....Facts - the important ones.
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And most of those 600,000 probably didn't even know they voted for Biden.
 
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Sea Ray said:
I'm counting legislation cause there are actual votes on the record to count. I'm also using specifics backed up with documentation, something you haven't done
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Mnuchin's slush fund and Trump's promises aren't documented? How much income redistribution did Trump sign off on?
 
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