Why Barnes!?!?!

[ColinS]

1. You serious? There is no way he was offered a scholarship by anybody without extensive scouting. Maybe I am missing sarcasm but that’s ludicrous if not
2. Again, seniors who return next year won’t count against the scholarship cap, so why would you not bring him back?

All you can do is watch his game film against very low level competition. I don't see transfers traveling around to workout for all these coaches. I admit I'm only guessing how this process works. If he was scouted extensively there is no way he end up at a power 5 school. He is probably 6-4 with no ability to elevate at all.

 

[ColinS]

1. You serious? There is no way he was offered a scholarship by anybody without extensive scouting. Maybe I am missing sarcasm but that’s ludicrous if not
2. Again, seniors who return next year won’t count against the scholarship cap, so why would you not bring him back?

I forgot bullet point 2 but he would be better served going somewhere he can play. If he is still out there getting minutes this time next year then we are in trouble.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I forgot bullet point 2 but he would be better served going somewhere he can play. If he is still out there getting minutes this time next year then we are in trouble.

He’s getting minutes on a Top 10-15 team and 2nd place team in the SEC, but if he gets minutes again next year we are in trouble, that makes a ton of sense.

Side note...you might have a couple of posts after wins, but after our 2 losses you have tons of negative posts about this team, why is that? Only feel the need to come around or post things after losses?

 

[walkenvol]

I forgot bullet point 2 but he would be better served going somewhere he can play. If he is still out there getting minutes this time next year then we are in trouble.

If he doesn’t figure things out and start playing closer to expectations when he was signed, then I think your right on this. If the current version of Anosike is our best option to replace Pons then we are in trouble. We were all wondering what our post situation was going to be going into last year before Pons and Fulky elevated their play so I guess we should wait and see what happens

 

[BalledUPfists]

Think about what you're agreeing to before you beat your chest on this issue.

That guy is saying, and you are agreeing that EJA didn't deserve a scholarship. Despite the fact that he was the 6th rated grad transfer in the country, held offers from 3 of the preseason top 25 teams, among others, was 2x all-conference and produced in every matchup against high-major competition. Mark Few didnt see this coming. Chris Mack didnt see it coming, Rick Barnes, Steve Forbes, Tom Crean...they all expected him to add something. Not a single one of then expected him to come in and dominate. And then you add in the total absence of an offseason program.

Hindsight is 20/20, and I don't particularly remember either of you two in here last April proclaiming this a wasted scholarship, then.

I'm perfectly fine with fair criticism where it's due, and EJA isn't immune from it for certain things, like the missed layups and his defense. I've mentioned those things and I called out several members of the team and Barnes, specifically, last night. Piling on EJA for not meeting ridiculous expectations after the fact and claiming he was never worthy of a scholarship is ridiculous. Implying that his presence prevented us from signing someone else and that we just settled for someone no one else wanted is just weak sauce.

I think what’s missing in this entire post is the fact that all I said is that he is not a D1 SEC scholarship player. (And I intentionally implied that I’m holding Barnes responsible for what I’m seeing out of him, since he is still getting playing time). I did not say that he put up great numbers at his previous stop. I did not say that I had unrealistic expectations for him. I did not say that he was not worthy of getting a scholarship initially. What I said is being totally manipulated. My POINT is that he is not good enough to have a scholarship on our team. And, I’m right. If you want to argue that fact, you’re not watching the same player that I am.
I’m not saying that there were not unreal expectations based upon him. And I’m not saying that he is not a great kid. All I’m saying is that it’s obvious that he is not cut out for this level of play, thus, not warranting a scholarship spot.

 

[BalledUPfists]

He’s getting minutes on a Top 10-15 team and 2nd place team in the SEC, but if he gets minutes again next year we are in trouble, that makes a ton of sense.

Side note...you might have a couple of posts after wins, but after our 2 losses you have tons of negative posts about this team, why is that? Only feel the need to come around or post things after losses?

Not all of us rush to this board to post 24/7.

 

[cncchris33]

I agree with what you said last. All the coaches that offered EJ probably spent 5 minutes scouting him and just offered him based on reputation with nothing to lose holding an open scholarship. Having said that, it's obvious at this point that he is not SEC caliber. Why bring him back for a second year?

You can't be serious.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Not all of us rush to this board to post 24/7.

But coincidentally rush to the board the 16% of the time this team loses?

 

[BalledUPfists]

But coincidentally rush to the board the 16% of the time this team loses?

Of course! Many of us actually have a wife, a good job, and a family. I’m not gonna go and complain and talk basketball with my wife or my 12-year-old kid. Not only do they not want to hear it, I cannot have a conversation with them because they don’t understand. This board is a source of release for many people, it’s not a way of life for all of us my friend.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Of course! Many of us actually have a wife, a good job, and a family. I’m not gonna go and complain and talk basketball with my wife or my 12-year-old kid. Not only do they not want to hear it, I cannot have a conversation with them because they don’t understand. This board is a source of release for many people, it’s not a way of life for all of us my friend.

So you only feel the need to talk basketball when you want to b!tch about a loss, interesting.

 

[calban]

So you only feel the need to talk basketball when you want to b!tch about a loss, interesting.

Will Tom win another one this season?

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Will Tom win another one this season?

Wouldn’t put it past him that’s for sure.

 

[BalledUPfists]

So you only feel the need to talk basketball when you want to b!tch about a loss, interesting.

First of all, did I say anything at all originally about this basketball game? Go back and look at the thread and then answer my question.
And most of the time I have other avenues for discussing basketball besides the extremely knowledgeable posters here at Volnation. Mainly, I use this site to get a feel and pulse for how other fans feel about the things that I am thinking. What I’m learning is that we have some absolutely blind and foolish fans out there. The good news is that those kinds of fans, like yourself, are in the minority.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

First of all, did I say anything at all originally about this basketball game? Go back and look at the thread and then answer my question.
And most of the time I have other avenues for discussing basketball besides the extremely knowledgeable posters here at Volnation. Mainly, I use this site to get a feel and pulse for how other fans feel about the things that I am thinking. What I’m learning is that we have some absolutely blind and foolish fans out there. The good news is that those kinds of fans, like yourself, are in the minority.

Come around when we win buddy, it’s happened 10x this season in case you were wondering...we’re also tied for 2nd in the conference, try enjoying it

 

[papatomany]

Come around when we win buddy, it’s happened 10x this season in case you were wondering...we’re also tied for 2nd in the conference, try enjoying it

Agreed. A lot of craziness on here when we lose. I do hate the way we lost those two, i.e. all of the defensive lapses (though, as it turns out, Alabama's really good on offense); but a team that shoots no more consistently than we do climbing to #6 at any point in the season should be a cause for great optimism.

 

[BalledUPfists]

Come around when we win buddy, it’s happened 10x this season in case you were wondering...we’re also tied for 2nd in the conference, try enjoying it

Listen, I am all about celebrating success. I just think that we HAD a special opportunity to bring in some post players to complement our guards. I love that his team plays hard. I loved that Barnes does things with integrity. I love that our team likes each other and plays unselfish. I love everything about this team except the fact that we continue to try to implement some kind of a patchwork graduate transfer post player strategy. It’s clearly not working and is costing us in more ways than one. That’s all I’m saying.

 

[Volfan1000]

What happened against Florida was a perfect storm of Tennessee players having a horrendous shooting night and that carrying over to defense and getting whipped on the glass.

Defense and rebounding wins championships while offense puts asses in the seats.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Listen, I am all about celebrating success. I just think that we HAD a special opportunity to bring in some post players to complement our guards. I love that his team plays hard. I loved that Barnes does things with integrity. I love that our team likes each other and plays unselfish. I love everything about this team except the fact that we continue to try to implement some kind of a patchwork graduate transfer post player strategy. It’s clearly not working and is costing us in more ways than one. That’s all I’m saying.

What other post graduate transfers has Barnes taken?

 

[ColinS]

He’s getting minutes on a Top 10-15 team and 2nd place team in the SEC, but if he gets minutes again next year we are in trouble, that makes a ton of sense.

Side note...you might have a couple of posts after wins, but after our 2 losses you have tons of negative posts about this team, why is that? Only feel the need to come around or post things after losses?

He's playing because he has to. There is nobody else. Hopefully that's not the case next year or like I said we are in trouble. Why are you so offended by negative posts? Are you that insecure? Nothing says you can't sunshine pump all the time and nothing says you can't discuss the negative aspects of the team all the time. Feel free to do as you choose. I do both from time to time. Most of my sunshine pumping doesn't come after a beat down by half of a mediocre team.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

He's playing because he has to. There is nobody else. Hopefully that's not the case next year or like I said we are in trouble. Why are you so offended by negative posts? Are you that insecure? Nothing says you can't sunshine pump all the time and nothing says you can't discuss the negative aspects of the team all the time. Feel free to do as you choose. I do both from time to time. Most of my sunshine pumping doesn't come after a beat down by half of a mediocre team.

There are other options, ORN and Plavsic both, along with giving more minutes to James/Pons/Fulk...he doesn’t HAVE to play.

 

[RockyTop140]

Anosike is microcosm for an ongoing issue of patchwork big man. If you can’t see it, you don’t need to take part in the conversation. I’m not saying he is our only problem, and I’m not comparing his game tonight to anyone else’s game tonight. I’m simply saying is that he is not the kind of player that we need to bring in here as a graduate transfer type player.

Agreed. Barnes has failed to bring in a quality big man the past couple years. We’ve been getting owned on the boards.

 

[whobethis16]

Agreed. Barnes has failed to bring in a quality big man the past couple years. We’ve been getting owned on the boards.

We've outrebounded 8 of 12 opponents. And still won 3 of the 4 games that we didn't. Has it been as good as in the past? No, but it's not as bad at this point as some will have you believe.

 

[ColinS]

There are other options, ORN and Plavsic both, along with giving more minutes to James/Pons/Fulk...he doesn’t HAVE to play.

Small ball is the only option that could be an upgrade. EJ isn't very good but he is at least active and can rebound a little. I haven't said he shouldn't be playing. He is easily the best option from this group. I just wish we had someone better.

 

[cncchris33]

Small ball is the only option that could be an upgrade. EJ isn't very good but he is at least active and can rebound a little. I haven't said he shouldn't be playing. He is easily the best option from this group. I just wish we had someone better.

But wait...i thought it was obvious he can't cut it at this level and he isn't worthy of a scholarship at an SEC school?

 

[BalledUPfists]

What other post graduate transfers has Barnes taken?

He took Plavy, and then also olivier and Pember as projects. Again, it’s just patchwork. Do you think he’s taking the same approach with the other positions on the court? Before you answer, there is a right and wrong answer.