Why Barnes!?!?!

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#101
cardvolfan said:
I really didn’t have any preconceived expectations, but I thought he would be significantly better offensively. Honest.
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Same. He consistently misses bunnies. I know it was NEC, but I thought those 15 ppg would at least translate to converting gimme buckets. Our post play is going to be extremely concerning next year.
 
#102
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cardvolfan said:
I really didn’t have any preconceived expectations, but I thought he would be significantly better offensively. Honest.
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Well, He isn’t far off of my expectations on a per minute basis. I expected him to play more, however, nearly 40% more. I didn’t anticipate his defense being as subpar as it has been, however. I had no visions of him being anyone we would ever lean on, offensively. I always viewed anything he gave us as a bonus. Similar to what I ever expected of Kyle Alexander, offensively. As a SR, Alexander averaged 7.4 ppg and 6.7 rpg in 24 minutes. That is about what I expected from EJA. The big difference is their defense. KA was one of our better defenders. EJA is one of our worst.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Same. He consistently misses bunnies. I know it was NEC, but I thought those 15 ppg would at least translate to converting gimme buckets. Our post play is going to be extremely concerning next year.
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36% around the basket and 60% at the line is disappointing. Maybe he’s better, but by now, I would have thought he has had significant chances to prove so. I hope I’m wrong.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Well, He isn’t far off of my expectations on a per minute basis. I expected him to play more, however, nearly 40% more. I didn’t anticipate his defense being as subpar as it has been, however. I had no visions of him being anyone we would ever lean on, offensively. I always viewed anything he gave us as a bonus. Similar to what I ever expected of Kyle Alexander, offensively. As a SR, Alexander averaged 7.4 ppg and 6.7 rpg in 24 minutes. That is about what I expected from EJA. The big difference is their defense. KA was one of our better defenders. EJA is one of our worst.
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Yes, I can agree with what you say about defense. What’s surprised me is that he can’t find the hole around the rim with multiple chances. That’s disappointing in that he’s had his chances.
 
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BalledUPfists said:
He’s got HUGE deficiencies all across-the-board. All the talk coming out of the Barnes and Tennessee camp was that he was going to be a rebounding machine. He’s not. He’s not doing anything good enough to warrant the minutes he’s getting.
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@ Mizzou: 14 mins (8th), 3 rebounds (4th)
Bama: 10 mins (7th), 3 rebounds (6th)
Arkansas: 4 mins (8th), 0 rebounds (7th)
@ A&M: 6 mins (8th), 1 rebound (7th)
Vandy: 6 mins (8th), 1 rebound (7th)
@ Florida: 15 mins (6th), 4 rebounds (3rd)
Total: 55 mins, 12 rebounds, 0.218 rebounds/min

@ Mizzou: 29 mins (2nd), 6 rebounds (1st)
Bama: 26 mins (5th), 5 rebounds (4th)
Arkansas: 33 mins (2nd), 8 rebounds (2nd)
@ A&M: 30 mins (3rd), 5 rebounds (1st)
Vandy: 28 mins (3rd), 8 rebounds (1st)
@ Florida: 30 mins (2nd), 4 rebounds (3rd)
Total: 176 mins, 36 rebounds, 0.209 rebounds/min

So, in conference play, Anosike has been no higher than 6th on the roster in total minutes played. And he's consistently placing higher on the rebounds list, with yesterday being 3rd highest. And if you look at rebounds/min, his is higher than Fulkerson's.
 
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cardvolfan said:
Yes, I can agree with what you say about defense. What’s surprised me is that he can’t find the hole around the rim with multiple chances. That’s disappointing in that he’s had his chances.
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I’ll agree that it is puzzling that he is missing so many shots at the rim. He also looks less mobile and athletic than he did at Sacred Heart. If I’m being honest, I think he is struggling with making the adjustment to being strictly a low post player. At SH, he played a lot more of an Admiral Schofield type role. He had a lot more offensive freedom and was clearly a big fish in a small pond. At Tennessee, he is being asked to strictly be a post player and has struggled to adjust to the athleticism and length of the SEC by being restricted solely to the post.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Your selective memory and hyperbole makes an intelligent conversation extremely difficult. No poster whose opinion I respect on this board claimed he was coming in to be a “rebounding machine” who was going to replicate his efforts and numbers from Sacred Heart.

I personally expected 6-7 ppg and 7 rpg and him playing about 20 minutes per game. He is currently playing 11.8 minutes and averaging 2.8 ppg and 3 rpg. At 20 minutes/gm, that would translate to 4.7 ppg and 5.1 rpg. Not terribly far off my expectations, but lower than what I expected, which I have readily admitted multiple times, now. Even still, he leads the team in rebounding on per 40 minute basis at 10.4 rp40, and it isn’t even close. Fulky is the next closest regular contributor at 8.8 rp40. So, the main skill he was recruited for is the skill that he has shown best, just on limited minutes because his defense has not translated. His defense is what was the unknown, and is what is currently preventing him from playing more. He was never recruited to be a scorer.
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If they did not think that he could duplicate his efforts and rebounding why would you even bring him in. You obviously don’t keep your ears open in the off-season. Everyone, and I mean everyone who was credible was talking about him contributing early and often. He just hasn’t. Of course he is rebounding some, that’s the only thing that he has any skill at all in doing. He can’t make anything within 2 feet of the rim, and the other night he was bringing the ball down the court. Give me a freaking break! He’s just not a division one SEC caliber player. It’s OK if you don’t wanna admit it, but we wasted a scholarship on him and everybody knows it, with the exception of possibly yourself. And I believe that you know it, you just don’t wanna admit it.
 
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whobethis16 said:
@ Mizzou: 14 mins (8th), 3 rebounds (4th)
Bama: 10 mins (7th), 3 rebounds (6th)
Arkansas: 4 mins (8th), 0 rebounds (7th)
@ A&M: 6 mins (8th), 1 rebound (7th)
Vandy: 6 mins (8th), 1 rebound (7th)
@ Florida: 15 mins (6th), 4 rebounds (3rd)
Total: 55 mins, 12 rebounds, 0.218 rebounds/min

@ Mizzou: 29 mins (2nd), 6 rebounds (1st)
Bama: 26 mins (5th), 5 rebounds (4th)
Arkansas: 33 mins (2nd), 8 rebounds (2nd)
@ A&M: 30 mins (3rd), 5 rebounds (1st)
Vandy: 28 mins (3rd), 8 rebounds (1st)
@ Florida: 30 mins (2nd), 4 rebounds (3rd)
Total: 176 mins, 36 rebounds, 0.209 rebounds/min

So, in conference play, Anosike has been no higher than 6th on the roster in total minutes played. And he's consistently placing higher on the rebounds list, with yesterday being 3rd highest. And if you look at rebounds/min, his is higher than Fulkerson's.
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Lol....OK, I guess you’re suggesting he should be starting then and playing WAY more minutes. Give me a freaking break. Some of you people on here have no clue.
 
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BalledUPfists said:
If they did not think that he could duplicate his efforts and rebounding why would you even bring him in. You obviously don’t keep your ears open in the off-season. Everyone, and I mean everyone who was credible was talking about him contributing early and often. He just hasn’t. Of course he is rebounding some, that’s the only thing that he has any skill at all in doing. He can’t make anything within 2 feet of the rim, and the other night he was bringing the ball down the court. Give me a freaking break! He’s just not a division one SEC caliber player. It’s OK if you don’t wanna admit it, but we wasted a scholarship on him and everybody knows it, with the exception of possibly yourself. And I believe that you know it, you just don’t wanna admit it.
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Is your expectation that every scholarship player will be a quality player? Seems like the hit rate across the power 5 is about 50% +/-. Appears CRB is hitting about that average with the current group. Give the current group in the 9-12 range another year to develop. No major improvement then and they will have to all be considered a miss. I’m still expecting a couple of them will step up, but time will tell.myself
 
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BalledUPfists said:
If they did not think that he could duplicate his efforts and rebounding why would you even bring him in. You obviously don’t keep your ears open in the off-season. Everyone, and I mean everyone who was credible was talking about him contributing early and often. He just hasn’t. Of course he is rebounding some, that’s the only thing that he has any skill at all in doing. He can’t make anything within 2 feet of the rim, and the other night he was bringing the ball down the court. Give me a freaking break! He’s just not a division one SEC caliber player. It’s OK if you don’t wanna admit it, but we wasted a scholarship on him and everybody knows it, with the exception of possibly yourself. And I believe that you know it, you just don’t wanna admit it.
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You're unbelievable. I'm not wasting another ounce of effort.
 
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BalledUPfists said:
Lol....OK, I guess you’re suggesting he should be starting then and playing WAY more minutes. Give me a freaking break. Some of you people on here have no clue.
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There's nothing in that post that says that. What it does say is your argument that Anosike doesn't rebound is complete trash, given the actual stats. It's hilarious that you think people have no clue, yet you can't open your eyes to facts, even when they're spoonfed to you.
 
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This team plays like they’re scared to death they’re gonna make a mistake on offense. They don’t play with confidence. Notice when most of our guys receive a pass what they do. They don’t square up, they don’t look to be aggressive with the ball to the hoop. Its terrible, poorly coached offense. And it’s no wonder. Barnes rips most of them every post game presser for every little detail on offense. No wonder they have no confidence.
 
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Jackjon90 said:
This team plays like they’re scared to death they’re gonna make a mistake on offense. They don’t play with confidence. Notice when most of our guys receive a pass what they do. They don’t square up, they don’t look to be aggressive with the ball to the hoop. Its terrible, poorly coached offense. And it’s no wonder. Barnes rips most of them every post game presser for every little detail on offense. No wonder they have no confidence.
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Wow, Barnes must totally suck at basketball.
 
#118
#118
BalledUPfists said:
Again, for those of you in the back, I understand that he is a role player. What I’m saying is he is not good enough to justify giving a scholarship to a D1 power five school. Especially out of the transfer market, where we continue to look for answers.
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I'd agree we need to recruit bigs of the calibre we're getting in guards. Hopefully this time around.
 
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walkenvol said:
Is your expectation that every scholarship player will be a quality player? Seems like the hit rate across the power 5 is about 50% +/-. Appears CRB is hitting about that average with the current group. Give the current group in the 9-12 range another year to develop. No major improvement then and they will have to all be considered a miss. I’m still expecting a couple of them will step up, but time will tell.myself
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Yes. That is my expectation at a top tier basketball school. ESPECIALLY when they are given scholarship in the transfer or graduate market.
 
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#121
whobethis16 said:
There's nothing in that post that says that. What it does say is your argument that Anosike doesn't rebound is complete trash, given the actual stats. It's hilarious that you think people have no clue, yet you can't open your eyes to facts, even when they're spoonfed to you.
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My eyes see that Anosike doesn’t deserve a D1 SEC scholarship. That is what I said. And...you think otherwise. You’re brutally wrong, but at least you have a low bar for accomplishment. You’ll be disappointed less in life that way.
 
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We don’t have a backup big that is better than Anosike, so let’s just hope he improves and see what happens. No need to continuously bash a kid, especially after one of his better games as a vol, he’s improving.
 
#125
#125
BalledUPfists said:
Man....people on here can’t have a rational conversation. If people can’t see our post players quality is lacking then there is NOTHING you can do to convince them.
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What's more rational than actually numbers backing up our side? The emotional vendetta that you have? We've all admitted that he's not a world beater. No one has said otherwise, myself included. No, he's not had the success many thought he would. There's a reason why he's only played 55 minutes in 6 conference games. But just because you had unrealistic expectations of him, or just jealous that he's playing D1 while you probably couldn't get higher than towel boy for the freshman team, doesn't mean he's the excrement you claim he is.
 
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