wikileaks and CIA

#153
#153
volprof said:
What part of my post did not get the message through that our intelligence services "should be kept in check"?

I'm not going to freak out like a five-year-old, however, every time a leak by some ahole contributes to our collective narcissism.
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the fact that you immediately went to hyperbole of them spying on us citizens as to minimize how bad it is.
 
#154
#154
golfballs said:
WikiLeaks will give tech firms access to CIA hacking tools, Julian Assange says.

We're so ****ed
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Not really. IMO it just gives hardware and software manufacturers insight into known vulnerabilities which are exploited and they fix them to the best of their abilities. So In essence it takes away the ability of anyone or any country from future exploitation. So all hackers will have to find new vulnerabilities in the new hardware and software to exploit. Time to retool our arsenal.

We will survive.
 
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#155
#155
Mick said:
Not really. IMO it just gives hardware and software manufacturers insight into known vulnerabilities which are exploited and they fix them to the best of their abilities. So In essence it takes away the ability of anyone or any country from future exploitation. So all hackers will have to find new vulnerabilities in the new hardware and software to exploit. Time to retool our arsenal.

We will survive.
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Our CIA's entire hacking arsenal is floating around out there, and complete strangers at Wikileaks are taking it upon themselves to show who-the-hell-knows at apple, google, etc. At this point, at least we can hope they'll use that knowledge to help protect all of their customers, but the fact we're at their mercy is pretty ****ing pathetic and scary...
 
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#156
golfballs said:
Our CIA's entire hacking arsenal is floating around out there, and complete strangers at Wikileaks are taking it upon themselves to show who-the-hell-knows at apple, google, etc. At this point, at least we can hope they'll use that knowledge to help protect all of their customers, but the fact we're at their mercy is pretty ****ing pathetic and scary...
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It's very scary
 
#158
#158
golfballs said:
Our CIA's entire hacking arsenal is floating around out there, and complete strangers at Wikileaks are taking it upon themselves to show who-the-hell-knows at apple, google, etc. At this point, at least we can hope they'll use that knowledge to help protect all of their customers, but the fact we're at their mercy is pretty ****ing pathetic and scary...
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I'm gonna yell racial slurs and anti government slogans at my TV tonight while I watch Amazon.


I'll post about it tomorrow.














maybe..
 
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#159
#159
golfballs said:
Our CIA's entire hacking arsenal is floating around out there, and complete strangers at Wikileaks are taking it upon themselves to show who-the-hell-knows at apple, google, etc. At this point, at least we can hope they'll use that knowledge to help protect all of their customers, but the fact we're at their mercy is pretty ****ing pathetic and scary...
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The fatal mistake of our IC is allowing private contractors access to these tool. This article from 07 is an interesting read.

The corporate takeover of U.S. intelligence - Salon.com
 
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#163
#163
FLVOL_79 said:
Working in my yard today I was thinking about this. Wanted to look at my Republican Reps and be like "This is what you get for contracting jobs out"..
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Can you imagine the fallout if anyone even hinted that we expand the government to allow the CIA and bring in 10 to 20 thousand employees.
 
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#165
#165
I didn't know Russia was trying to acquire the rights to our internet or censor speech in the Western world..
 
#166
#166
Exclusive look inside the Wikileaks office:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pabA320p9B0[/youtube]
 
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#171
Hours before dying in a fiery car crash, Rolling Stone journalist Michael Hastings told his neighbor he believed his Mercedes had been tampered with, according to a report.

Hastings, a swashbuckling war correspondent known for taking on powerful figures, had told several friends he believed the government was watching him in the weeks before his death on June 18 in Los Angeles.

But in a lengthy profile by LA Weekly, Hastings’ neighbor Jordanna Thigpen says he knocked on her door after midnight and asked to borrow her Volvo because he was afraid to drive his own car. "He was scared, and he wanted to leave town," she told the weekly newspaper. She declined, saying her car was in need of repairs.


It was revealed today by the WikiLeaks’ Vault 7 leak that the Central Intelligence Agency may have car hacking capabilities, leading online conspiracists to further the claims that journalist Michael Hastings was murdered by the CIA. Hastings died on June 18, 2013, in a fiery high-speed automobile crash in his Mercedes C250 Coupé following the publication of “Why Democrats Love to Spy On Americans” on BuzzFeed. Hastings had been a vocal critic of the Obama administration. Following his death, former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard A. Clarke said that Hastings’ crash was consistent with a “car cyber attack.”

WikiLeaks Vault 7 Conspiracy: Michael Hastings Assassinated by CIA Remote Car Hack? | Heavy.com
 
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#172
Obsessed said:
Hours before dying in a fiery car crash, Rolling Stone journalist Michael Hastings told his neighbor he believed his Mercedes had been tampered with, according to a report.

Hastings, a swashbuckling war correspondent known for taking on powerful figures, had told several friends he believed the government was watching him in the weeks before his death on June 18 in Los Angeles.

But in a lengthy profile by LA Weekly, Hastings’ neighbor Jordanna Thigpen says he knocked on her door after midnight and asked to borrow her Volvo because he was afraid to drive his own car. "He was scared, and he wanted to leave town," she told the weekly newspaper. She declined, saying her car was in need of repairs.


It was revealed today by the WikiLeaks’ Vault 7 leak that the Central Intelligence Agency may have car hacking capabilities, leading online conspiracists to further the claims that journalist Michael Hastings was murdered by the CIA. Hastings died on June 18, 2013, in a fiery high-speed automobile crash in his Mercedes C250 Coupé following the publication of “Why Democrats Love to Spy On Americans” on BuzzFeed. Hastings had been a vocal critic of the Obama administration. Following his death, former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard A. Clarke said that Hastings’ crash was consistent with a “car cyber attack.”

WikiLeaks Vault 7 Conspiracy: Michael Hastings Assassinated by CIA Remote Car Hack? | Heavy.com
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If it's networked, smart, electronic, connected, etc. Just assume it can be hacked.
 
#174
#174
Mick said:
The fatal mistake of our IC is allowing private contractors access to these tool. This article from 07 is an interesting read.

The corporate takeover of U.S. intelligence - Salon.com
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Couple things...

1) A Salon article really? This article, in particular, is written from a position of ignorance.

2) Contract employees are legally bound by laws and regulations much like our government civilian counter parts. Clearances investigated by the same agency. Harder adjudication standards (not spelled out in adjudication guidelines for the central adjudication facilities). Yes, the cost upfront is more expensive but the government is not on the hook for a retirement pension or any other benefits.

Salary for contractors is higher because the contract company has to attract and retain the best talent. Getting fired is easy.

Government civilians are almost impossible to fire even for gross negligence (which happens a lot).

So it comes down to private industry competition vs government run bureaucracy and as we have all witnessed, what does the government do well?
 
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#175
#175
Do you all want an intelligence community that is run like Social Security or the VA? Cause that is competence level of bureaucrats.
 
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