Will Cuonzo still be Head Coach for the 2015-2016 Season

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johnnybravo said:
Next years attendance will be interesting to see with CCM popularity declining, less than impressive OOC schedule mixed in with a team with high expectations.
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Obviously a lot will have to do with their start. They start hot and go into conference play ranked and playing well, attendance will be up again.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Obviously a lot will have to do with their start. They start hot and go into conference play ranked and playing well, attendance will be up again.
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Not so sure. Schedule will play a big part. Less than impressive OOC games and we don't know the SEC home games that we will have. We will lose the home/away with KY. If that game is at Rupp, then that's a sellout we lose. If we do not pick up a home / away with FL and MIZZ, then there are 2 more big ticket games gone since both were at home this last year.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Not so sure. Schedule will play a big part. Less than impressive OOC games and we don't know the SEC home games that we will have. We will lose the home/away with KY. If that game is at Rupp, then that's a sellout we lose. If we do not pick up a home / away with FL and MIZZ, then there are 2 more big ticket games gone since both were at home this last year.
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Conference games always draw a bigger attendance than the lowly OOC opponents. Look at our attendance against say Ole Miss, over 17k.

Check out our attendance against a crappy Mississippi State team. We were currently 8-7 and there was about as much interest in the program as there is in checking out the world's biggest ball of yarn. Yet the attendance was almost 18k.

Conference games just draw more fans, it's simple as that and you can't argue it, the numbers support my statement. If Tennessee is playing their best ball in 3 years why is it you think all of a sudden conference number are gonna drop?
 
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Looks like the 2013 data is showing 2011-12. Possibly a yearbook showing the previous year's data. You can find the 2011-12 data is showing 16,543 as well. I doubt we averaged the same attendance two years in a row.

I believe Quinn's article has the correct figure for 2012-13.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Looks like the 2013 data is showing 2011-12. Possibly a yearbook showing the previous year's data. You can find the 2011-12 data is showing 16,543 as well. I doubt we averaged the same attendance two years in a row.

I believe Quinn's article has the correct figure for 2012-13.
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It is, because if those geniuses looked at the top of the ncaa page they're linking it lists final four attendance for that season. One problem, it's listing New Orleans as the location, last years final four wasn't in New Orleans. Guess what, the 2011-2012 final four was in New Orleans though.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
^^^ Right, this article is from May 2012. A year ago. Showing that Tennessee drew 16,543 in the 2011-12 season which is CCM's first year.

Quinn's article has the 2012-13 year attendance in the 17 thousand's.
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No way, attendance numbers are down!!!!

See this link from 2006
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Check out the final four site listed at the top of the page....now tell me where the final four was played last year?

See the problem?
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Yeah, the NCAA website has 2012 - 2013 on the top right header of each page of the pdf. Looks like the NCAA is at fault. Should be a minor violation of some sort.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Yeah, the NCAA website has 2012 - 2013 on the top right header of each page of the pdf. Looks like the NCAA is at fault. Should be a minor violation of some sort.
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Well it does say, 2012 attendance summary. The 2012 season is the 2011-2012 season, not 2012-2013 season. Look up the 2012 NCAA champion, it's the 2011-2012 season tournament champion, not 2012-2013.

So, as I've been saying, attendance is up from year one to year two.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Conference games always draw a bigger attendance than the lowly OOC opponents. Look at our attendance against say Ole Miss, over 17k.

Check out our attendance against a crappy Mississippi State team. We were currently 8-7 and there was about as much interest in the program as there is in checking out the world's biggest ball of yarn. Yet the attendance was almost 18k.

Conference games just draw more fans, it's simple as that and you can't argue it, the numbers support my statement. If Tennessee is playing their best ball in 3 years why is it you think all of a sudden conference number are gonna drop?
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I'm saying that overall attendance average could easily drop just because of the schedule. We won't have a big OOC ticket such as UCONN, Memphis, Pitt, that we have seen in the past to help bring the average up. That's 18k-20k for a couple games that we miss. If we do not have KY at home this year then thats another 7K - 9K difference than any other SEC home game. All the other big ticket home games are FL, Bama, MIZZ, Vandy. Bama will not be a home/away game, so that could be at Bama. We don't know if MIZZ and FL are home / away games yet. Potentionally, both of those games could be away since they were both at home this past year. Conference games do increase in attendance, but this will be the first year that you could see FL and KY not coming to TBA, so that will affect attendance if that happens.
 
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#122
A bigger impact on attendance will be the early success of the team. While we may not have the bigger name OOC teams scheduled, we should at least equal last year. IMO we will pass it.

We took a pretty good hit to attendance last year after the terrible start the the SEC season. Then went on our hot streak and people started showing up again. We shouldn't have a drop this year.
 
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johnnybravo said:
I'm saying that overall attendance average could easily drop just because of the schedule. We won't have a big OOC ticket such as UCONN, Memphis, Pitt, that we have seen in the past to help bring the average up. That's 18k-20k for a couple games that we miss. If we do not have KY at home this year then thats another 7K - 9K difference than any other SEC home game. All the other big ticket home games are FL, Bama, MIZZ, Vandy. Bama will not be a home/away game, so that could be at Bama. We don't know if MIZZ and FL are home / away games yet. Potentionally, both of those games could be away since they were both at home this past year. Conference games do increase in attendance, but this will be the first year that you could see FL and KY not coming to TBA, so that will affect attendance if that happens.
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And IMO winning will outweigh the lack of marquee home games, and there will still be a nice crowd for lesser opponents. Like I said, drawing almost 18k for Mississippi state, when we were 8-7 and they were considered the worst team in the league. If we are the best we've been in 3 years attendance numbers will go up, it won't matter who we play.

Look at the attendance numbers against some of the lesser teams that we played in pearls last year...over 16k for Oakland, almost 18k for Belmont, over 17k for UT-M, almost 18k for COC. There was interest because it was a tourney team, even though it wasn't a ranked team you still see the interest they brought. Like I said, if they start hot and are ranked, they'll have no problem averaging 16-17k for OOC games against smaller teams, 17-18k for better OOC teams, and 18-20k for comference games.

I will be shocked if Tennessee makes the dance and attendance is down.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And IMO winning will outweigh the lack of marquee home games, and there will still be a nice crowd for lesser opponents. Like I said, drawing almost 18k for Mississippi state, when we were 8-7 and they were considered the worst team in the league. If we are the best we've been in 3 years attendance numbers will go up, it won't matter who we play.

Look at the attendance numbers against some of the lesser teams that we played in pearls last year...over 16k for Oakland, almost 18k for Belmont, over 17k for UT-M, almost 18k for COC. There was interest because it was a tourney team, even though it wasn't a ranked team you still see the interest they brought. Like I said, if they start hot and are ranked, they'll have no problem averaging 16-17k for OOC games against smaller teams, 17-18k for better OOC teams, and 18-20k for comference games.

I will be shocked if Tennessee makes the dance and attendance is down.
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Pearl's last year numbers were based on Season tickets sold. That's why those numbers were 16K-18K in OOC. I promise you there were not that many people there for Oakland, Belmont and COC. I was there. Just like last year. There were not 14.5K for the Presbyterian game this past year. That's how many season tickets were sold. Season tickets are bought before the season starts. If we do start hot, playing terrible OOC teams like SC Upstate, VA, etc vs. a big ticket like Memphis or Xavier kills your average. It's a 4k - 5k difference. VA is the biggest OOC ticket this year, so OOC will strictly be based on season tickets sold.

Not having the elite teams at TBA only affect attendance. We played LSU this past year right in the middle of our red hot streak at the end of the year. There were 15K at the game vs. 21K average attendance of at KY, FL, or MIZZ. Could be just too much to make up with no big ticket games at TBA this year.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Pearl's last year numbers were based on Season tickets sold. That's why those numbers were 16K-18K in OOC. I promise you there were not that many people there for Oakland, Belmont and COC. I was there. Just like last year. There were not 14.5K for the Presbyterian game this past year. That's how many season tickets were sold. Season tickets are bought before the season starts. If we do start hot, playing terrible OOC teams like SC Upstate, VA, etc vs. a big ticket like Memphis or Xavier kills your average. It's a 4k - 5k difference. VA is the biggest OOC ticket this year, so OOC will strictly be based on season tickets sold.

Not having the elite teams at TBA only affect attendance. We played LSU this past year right in the middle of our red hot streak at the end of the year. There were 15K at the game vs. 21K average attendance of at KY, FL, or MIZZ. Could be just too much to make up with no big ticket games at TBA this year.
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For starters you don't know there won't be any big ticket games at TBA, I'm guessing we'll get a couple.

Like I've said, I will be really surprised if this team is ranked/makes the dance, and attendance numbers decrease...ill save this thread for future reference.
 
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