Will Smith slaps Chris Rock

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Brave Volunteer said:
I'm just blown away that Will Smith attacked Chris Rock on stage in front of millions, and there was absolutely NO recourse. He was simply allowed to sit back down for the remainder of the show, and then go back up on stage and collect his award later. Why wasn't he escorted from the venue? I wouldn't have stripped him from his Oscar. He won it fair and square and this incident shouldn't change that. However I definitely would've robbed him of his public moment of acceptance. I would've had him removed from the venue and Fed Ex'd his damn trophy to him.
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Because he was going to win best actor and it's Hollywood. "The show must go on" is literally their mantra.

Who would you be if you decided this? You think there is one person in charge of deciding all this?
 
#53
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That's what I cannot get over to some of these people. Just because something is legal, that doesn't make it right or just. And just because it is illegal, that doesn't mean it is evil or unjust.
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Chris Rock kinda looks amazing in all of this. He probably didn't know she had alopecia, so you can forgive the joke that should have never been made. But he takes the slap like a straight-up G, totally behaves like a professional (he kinda just flubs one word, but otherwise perfect), and declines getting the law involved. Just all around winning following a mistake.

And then we got UFC fighter Colby Covington pressing charges for felony assault in a similar situation.

Pookie's a G.
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm sure it helped ratings for the rest of the show, and it gives people something to talk about in connection with the Oscars for a while. Next year, the year after that, the year after that, etc., it'll get mentioned.

Remember when Kanye went up and interrupted Taylor Swift's acceptance speech at whatever awards show that was? People still talk about that. It became a meme, raised awareness of the show, etc.
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Eh, again...maybe? Just to use an example you cite I don't believe for one second the Kanye thing was staged regardless of what the aftermath brought about regarding the VMA's.

You present it as a certainty this was staged and I can't really go there. Not saying it couldn't have been but certainty either way seems dubious. Hell, I think there's as much chance Smith (unscripted) ad-libbed a moment to grandstand than the whole thing being set up from the start.
 
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#55
I think I would have done the same, maybe worse. That was certainly a cruel joke since she has a disease. The problem is these movie stars proclaiming to be superior and using their platform to tell us little people how to behave. This just shows they are nothing special, they just make a lot of money.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Because he was going to win best actor and it's Hollywood. "The show must go on" is literally their mantra.

Who would you be if you decided this? You think there is one person in charge of deciding all this?
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The Show would have went on regardless. But some things are just bigger than showbusiness. Will crossed the line and he shouldve been escorted out. Jada could've accepted the award for him, which would've been fitting since she was the butt of the joke. But to do absolutely nothing was disgraceful.
 
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Will should be glad that Chris is obviously a nice guy seeing his reaction to Will's assult on him,
after all with the video evidence and everything else, like I said Will got off easy.
 
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There's a back story that goes back about 5 years when Chris Rock made a joke about Jada when she was talking about boycotting the Oscar's.
 
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hndog609 said:
Eh, again...maybe? Just to use an example you cite I don't believe for one second the Kanye thing was staged regardless of what the aftermath brought about regarding the VMA's.

You present it as a certainty this was staged and I can't really go there. Not saying it couldn't have been but certainty either way seems dubious. Hell, I think there's as much chance Smith (unscripted) ad-libbed a moment to grandstand than the whole thing being set up from the start.
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I don't think the Kanye thing was staged, but that wasn't my point. My point was that the incident became a meme and is something people still remember and talk about over a decade(!!!) later. The same thing will happen here. There's an incredibly obvious motive to do something like this in the middle of the show, and they are, after all, actors.
 
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I flipped the channel over to ABC to watch the local news right as WS was announced as the winner of whatever he won, from his speech I thought he was on drugs.
 
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05_never_again said:
I don't think the Kanye thing was staged, but that wasn't my point. My point was that the incident became a meme and is something people still remember and talk about over a decade(!!!) later. The same thing will happen here. There's an incredibly obvious motive to do something like this in the middle of the show, and they are, after all, actors.
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Understood...I'm saying things that one could argue "might" be construed to have a downstream positive outcome for the people involved still makes for dubious evidence regarding certainty with causation for an event. I'm in no way, shape or form suggesting what you posit is clearly wrong because there's no possible way for me to know that's the case. I also realize, given what we currently know from the outside looking in, there's no possible way to vet this as being inarguably staged.
 
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hndog609 said:
Understood...I'm saying things that one could argue "might" be construed to have a downstream positive outcome for the people involved still makes for dubious evidence regarding certainty with causation for an event. I'm in no way, shape or form suggesting what you posit is clearly wrong because there's no possible way for me to know that's the case. I also realize, given what we currently know from the outside looking in, there's no possible way to vet this as being inarguably staged.
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It's more obvious motive + the guys involved are professional actors. Whether or not it actually "works" (future ratings are higher, etc.) doesn't really have any bearing on my opinion as to whether or not it was staged.

And yes, I was being hyperbolic. There's no way to know for sure that it was staged, but I think it was almost certainly staged.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I feel a bunch of different ways about this. This isn't a comedy club or a roast and it's not the time or place to make fun of JPS's alopecia. It's both a good and bad look for WS, depending on your school of thought. Rock took that **** like a G and acted like a professional.
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Chris absolutely was the professional, and Will got off easy.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I feel a bunch of different ways about this. This isn't a comedy club or a roast and it's not the time or place to make fun of JPS's alopecia. It's both a good and bad look for WS, depending on your school of thought. Rock took that **** like a G and acted like a professional.
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The Oscars invited Chris Rock to give an award and you know he's a comedian. They know he's going to roast people. It comes with the territory.

Then WS and Jada sits on the front row. He laughs at others with the jokes were on them. We don't know how much Chris knew about the alopecia though we can assume he did, but Jada has cut her hair off and grown it back several times in her career. CR could've joked about the stupidity that has become the public family embarrassments but he didn't. He made a funny GI Jane reference where people laughed.

Smith is sensitive and it reflects badly on him.
 
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Smith is embarrassed about the other outrageous public events so he tried to look tough. He ended up making himself look like a worse ass.

Wait until he get the jokes from comedians coming to Chris Rock's defense.
 
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05_never_again said:
OK, I'll be "that guy."

This is staged, without any doubt, and I can't believe the number of people who are falling for it. Oscars ratings have been terrible and declining for years (obvious motive) and the people involved in this are, you know, actors.
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When I saw the clip, I immediately thought Jerry Lawler slapping Andy Kaufman on Late Night with David Letterman.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The Oscars invited Chris Rock to give an award and you know he's a comedian. They know he's going to roast people. It comes with the territory.

Then WS and Jada sits on the front row. He laughs at others with the jokes were on them. We don't know how much Chris knew about the alopecia though we can assume he did, but Jada has cut her hair off and grown it back several times in her career. CR could've joked about the stupidity that has become the public family embarrassments but he didn't. He made a funny GI Jane reference where people laughed.

Smith is sensitive and it reflects badly on him.
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Everybody knows comedians are going to poke fun, but the line is nowhere near where the line is at a roast or a comedy club, and that joke might not even really fly there.
 
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