Will the real Trayvon Martin please stand up?

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SO, you are listening to the idiot attorney for the Martin family and marching like sheep to every talking point?

There are pictures from the scene that can not be released yet.
If you are on the ground, the blood from the nose would not fall on the shirt. It would run down the sides of the face. Which they cleaned at the scene. They did not bandage the cut on the back of his head so that they could take more pictures at the station.

It is truly sad that peole are trying so hard to find "proof" that just does NOT exist.
 
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T-TownVol said:
SO, you are listening to the idiot attorney for the Martin family and marching like sheep to every talking point?

There are pictures from the scene that can not be released yet.
If you are on the ground, the blood from the nose would not fall on the shirt. It would run down the sides of the face. Which they cleaned at the scene. They did not bandage the cut on the back of his head so that they could take more pictures at the station.

It is truly sad that peole are trying so hard to find "proof" that just does NOT exist.
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So your saying he stopped bleeding the moment he got to his feet?
 
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dduncan4163 said:
Trayvon Martin Witness Casts Doubt On Shooter's Self-defense Claims | Fox News


In reference to the size difference between 28-year-old Zimmerman and Martin, the witness described the fight as being between a "larger man" and a "boy." While the witness said he was not able to see who was on top of the other as the two scuffled, he said "there wasn't a lot of movement" immediately before he heard a gunshot.
Zimmerman "didn't appear hurt" as he walked away, he added, and he didn't see any blood on him.

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Kid was interviewed 30 days ago and the ploice are the ones that "pressured" him to change his story?
 
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T-TownVol said:
SO, you are listening to the idiot attorney for the Martin family and marching like sheep to every talking point?

There are pictures from the scene that can not be released yet.
If you are on the ground, the blood from the nose would not fall on the shirt. It would run down the sides of the face. Which they cleaned at the scene. They did not bandage the cut on the back of his head so that they could take more pictures at the station.

It is truly sad that peole are trying so hard to find "proof" that just does NOT exist.
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Appearing on NBC's TODAY on Thursday, Zimmerman's attorney Craig Sonner described the video as "very grainy." He also pointed out that Zimmerman had been "cleaned-up" and received first aid

Sounds to me like you where the one listening to a lawyer
 
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T-TownVol said:
SO, you are listening to the idiot attorney for the Martin family and marching like sheep to every talking point?

There are pictures from the scene that can not be released yet.
If you are on the ground, the blood from the nose would not fall on the shirt. It would run down the sides of the face. Which they cleaned at the scene. They did not bandage the cut on the back of his head so that they could take more pictures at the station.

It is truly sad that peole are trying so hard to find "proof" that just does NOT exist.
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So when he stood up, his nose was no longer bleeding? And it was broke? Have you ever broke your nose before? It'll bleed til you make it stop, not while your getting beaten on the ground. Do you see any cuts, swelling, bandages?

What's really sad is there are people defending the women hitting, murderer with judge daddy getting him out of everything. And making this 17 year old seem like a low life because he was suspended from school and had an EMPTY bag of weed.

I'm not trying hard at all, but you're obviously not spending a lot of energy by just simply turning your back to the obvious
 
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dduncan4163 said:
So your saying he stopped bleeding the moment he got to his feet?
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See, here is the thing, I DON"T KNOW and neither do you. But you go right ahead and convict him in your own mind, that seems to make you feel better.

I have nothing to go by except the evidence and the evidence backs Zimmerman's story. Bring PROOF of a different series of events and I will change my mind.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
Appearing on NBC's TODAY on Thursday, Zimmerman's attorney Craig Sonner described the video as "very grainy." He also pointed out that Zimmerman had been "cleaned-up" and received first aid

Sounds to me like you where the one listening to a lawyer
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I read the actual police report. Have you?
 
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Zimmerman picked a fight with a 17 year old, got his ass beat and pulled the gun on him. i would think someone anyone who is an advocate of stand your ground would be just as upset with his actions as the next person, especially if his irresponsible actions place public scrutiny on that doctrine.
 
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T-TownVol said:
See, here is the thing, I DON"T KNOW and neither do you. But you go right ahead and convict him in your own mind, that seems to make you feel better.

I have nothing to go by except the evidence and the evidence backs Zimmerman's story. Bring PROOF of a different series of events and I will change my mind.
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I am not convicting. I believe her deserves to have his day in court. Am I 100% sure he murdered the kid no but I do think there is MORE than enough evidence that proves he needs to be charged.
 
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T-TownVol said:
See, here is the thing, I DON"T KNOW and neither do you. But you go right ahead and convict him in your own mind, that seems to make you feel better.

I have nothing to go by except the evidence and the evidence backs Zimmerman's story. Bring PROOF of a different series of events and I will change my mind.
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Ok and I am being serious what EVIDENCE are you going by that proves his story?
 
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dduncan4163 said:
Trayvon Martin Police Report - ProPublica

Are you referring to that one? If so yes I have.
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That is evidence, not any thing either attorney, the media or Sharpton says. Where is he by the way. Seems to have backed off because he knows that there is NO evidence to contradict Zimmerman's story.

I am done with you two as you both are working with emotion and not fact. Have a good day.
 
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What I go by is this. A unarmed 17 year old kid walking home was followed, confronted (after the dispatcher told him it wasn't advisable) shot and killed by a 28 year old man who in 2005 was charged with assaulting a cop.

Hell am I living in the Twilight Zone here. How can anyone think that Zimmerman doesn't need to be charged.
 
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T-TownVol said:
That is evidence, not any thing either attorney, the media or Sharpton says. Where is he by the way. Seems to have backed off because he knows that there is NO evidence to contradict Zimmerman's story.

I am done with you two as you both are working with emotion and not fact. Have a good day.
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Sorry you feel that way. I am not going off Emotion. I am not saying go lynch the Man. He deserves to have a day in court. But to just write this off as a concerned citizen protecting his neighborhood is illogical to say the least.
 
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VolsByNature said:
If you broke a nose, your shirt would be soaked. And if your head was bashed into the ground several times, you'd have a cut somewhere on your head. Like you said this is a hour after the shooting, not a month
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The video shows the cop looking at the gash for a couple of seconds so there is no doubt there is a cut as was stated in the police report.
 
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T-town, what we do know is that a man killed an unarmed boy half his size... that much is irrefutable.

Sorry if THAT'S too "emotional" for your Zimmpathy.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
So we know that Trayvon was under 3 feet tall and weighed approx. 130 lbs?
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While I'm not as concerned with the size of the participants as some it does concern me somewhat the diversity of weight and height values I've seen attributed. While heard Zman's height to be pretty consistently listed at 5'9" his weight varies from low 200's to 250. I've heard Martin listed as anywhere between 6'0 to 6'3" and 140lbs to 160.

The real answers are easy, it's friggin height and weight. It bugs me a little that the only reason there's no simple concensus is bias.
 
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You guys are bickering about ambiguous perspectives perpetuated via the media. Does anybody see the insanity with this?
 
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RespectTradition said:
Didn't he contribute to the concept of a clockwork universe?
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Not really sure. I know that he was all about Newtonian physics and that his mathematical reductionist theorems would absolutely support the notion of a clockwork universe.

My guess is that he was probably a big fan of the clockwork universe and that his philosophy and mathematical theorems helped perpetuate the idea in the minds of many. However, I am sure one would call him a true "contributor" to the idea itself.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Not really sure. I know that he was all about Newtonian physics and that his mathematical reductionist theorems would absolutely support the notion of a clockwork universe.

My guess is that he was probably a big fan of the clockwork universe and that his philosophy and mathematical theorems helped perpetuate the idea in the minds of many. However, I am sure one would call him a true "contributor" to the idea itself.
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Racist
 
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PKT_VOL said:
You guys are bickering about ambiguous perspectives perpetuated via the media. Does anybody see the insanity with this?
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Do you think it's literally impossible for people (on a macro scale) to be able to, with any consistency, put rationality ahead of emotion? Is it truly in our nature? This case has brought out opinions where, with no ambiguity whatsoever, people WANT to believe something (to the point of wishing ill on others) regardless of whether there is any evidence to support their contention or not.
 
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