Win and in

#76
#76
Andrew8210 said:
Tennessee needs Georgia to beat LSU. If LSU beats Georgia, both those teams are in and Tennessee is out. If Georgia beats LSU, then Tennessee is in as long as they win out.
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Of all the potential worries, that one is the least. Unless Georgia rolls over to keep UT out (something I wouldn't put past that snake Smart), Georgia will curb stomp LSU.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Consider a scenario where GA, TCU, and tOSU are undefeated. They're in.

USC has one loss and wins the P12
Clemson has one loss and wins the ACC
TN has one loss to GA and no championship
MI has one loss to tOSU and no championship

So who gets in? It's not as easy as "win and we're in" because several good teams are likely to be one loss teams.
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In that scenario my money is on USC, as the committee would love to make them relevant again and get the west coast audience.

In order of how I think the committee would rule:

USC
Michigan (only if the OSU game is close)
UT (bumped up if Michigan is blown out)
Clemson

There is clearly a Big 10 bias on the committee, and I don't believe they respect Clemson that much this year.
 
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TrueOrange said:
It unfortunately has. Partially because it’s all ESPN, FOX, and CBS talk about, even the discussion during halftime of the bowl game they’re currently broadcasting.
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And every time you mention the AP or Coaches poll some meathead chimes in with "only the CFP rankings matter". So it's playoffs or bust. Totally devalued a potential Sugar Bowl invite. There's a certain bunch that would consider that trip a letdown atp.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
But tOSU has consistently been in the hunt year after year.

What do you think lifted Bama in when they had some questionable losses? Consistency.

That's not on our side but it's especially there for Ohio State and Clemson and less so, but still with Michigan.

TCU and UT are the newcomers to the party and most likely to get screwed.
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If resumes are equal then maybe but if our resume is clearly better than Ohio State or Clemson we will get in over them.
 
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#81
A sad fact is that we kind of need Ohio State to blow Michigan out, and as someone else said on the forum, that would probably mean a big day from Stroud which would win him the Heisman.

Team first, though, which I'd bet Hooker would agree with.
 
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CBR07 said:
Nobody will make me believe if Alabama was sitting where Tennessee is sitting, that there wouldn’t be any doubt they get in. If Alabama would’ve won vs LSU, They would be 4 right now and nobody would jump them , nobody
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No doubt whatsoever.
 
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I am just ticked off about Texas. What a garbage offense they have. Texas is the wealthiest program in all of sports and that is the best QB they can come up with? Between Texas and the absolute abomination that is A&M I don't think NIL money is as important as people think.
 
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vols 30 said:
Is there still a big 12 championship game? A KSU/TCU rematch might be the only way TCU loses. TCU won the 1st game by 10 points.
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Yes there is, but TCU still has to win at Baylor and a tricky 'trap' type game against Iowa State before the Big 12 title game.
 
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sami said:
In that scenario my money is on USC, as the committee would love to make them relevant again and get the west coast audience.

In order of how I think the committee would rule:

USC
Michigan (only if the OSU game is close)
UT (bumped up if Michigan is blown out)
Clemson

There is clearly a Big 10 bias on the committee, and I don't believe they respect Clemson that much this year.
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I think Clemson's stock is falling fast and I've not given much thought to USCw getting a "they're back!" bump from the committee.

It's probably just my arrogance but for better or worse I wish the SEC and B1G would just have their own playoff and let the others have theirs. If they want to try to play real ball...... do what TX, OU, USCw, and UCLA are doing and join a big boy conference.

An "expanded playoff" is just going to lead to elite athletes risking injury obliterating some also ran conference champ. I'd rather not.

Every year I watch the March Madness I think about some kid from Gonzaga possibly losing millions getting the 50 point win over somebody like the Southwest Pennsylvania School for Coal Miners who won the Podunk Conference to get in the dance. Please.

I don't want to see football go that way.
 
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WillisWG said:
Currently Utah leads the P12S not USC.
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There is no P12 south. The conference did away with divisions after last season. USC, Utah, and Oregon currently have one loss, although USC is technically ahead since they’re currently 7-1, while Oregon and Utah are 6-1.
 
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JoAllan said:
I’m with you and I do believe Tennessee gets in.

However Tuesday should tell us a lot about what the committee is thinking and what they may be up to.

Look for USC to jump LSU. “If” they are wanting to make sure some of the conference champs get in over a team like Tennessee we should see Clemson also start to move back up and UNC take a big jump……….it’s really all they got (if that’s what their looking for - USC, Clemson/UNC) USC needs to get right behind Tennessee, and Clemson/UNC will have to be right on USC’s heals……..at least after next week.
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USC will still be behind LSU on Tuesday. It’s the rankings that come out on the 22nd where they will probably jump them. USC would be coming off a win over UCLA, while LSU plays UAB next weekend. That would give the committee a reason to jump SC over LSU.
 
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VolCalls said:
Everyone relax. Let’s be rational about this.

1) TCU deserves to be in right now - they’re 10-0 in a Power 5 league with wins over five ranked teams and will probably be 12-0 heading into the Big 12 title game. If they go 13-0 they’re a lock. If they lose the title game, they’re likely out. A #3 seed is their ceiling.

2) I’m not worried about the Pac 12 because USC won’t beat both UCLA and Notre Dame and Oregon, two of whom are pissed off coming off of losses, and UCLA doesn’t, and won’t, have the strength of schedule or record. Heck, they were ranked #12 and will take a tumble after last night’s bad loss at home, so even if they win out from here and finish 12-1 they aren’t going to jump 12-14 places in the next three weeks to make the top four.

3) Clemson still has a shot if they win out, depending on what else happens. A win over a red-hot UNC would help their cause, but they would still need chaos elsewhere due to the weakness of the ACC.

4) Mich/Ohio State loser would also need help due to SOS and SOR. If that game is a nail-biter, there will be a discussion - especially if OSU loses. Either way, one of those two is winning the Big Ten.

5) We all know Georgia needs to beat LSU, just so the CFP doesn’t need to have another discussion. Still, our head-to-head convincing win would be the deciding factor, IMO.

6) The only scenario where I will sweat is if TCU goes 13-0, USC and Clemson win out, Mich/OSU is a one possession game, and LSU beats Georgia. I think the odds of all of these happening are less than 5%, mainly due to the last one.

We have the #2 SOS, the #2 SOR, our only loss is at #1, and we play in the most powerful league in America, which has gotten two teams in multiple times before. No need to get worked up because our opinions don’t matter anyway!

Win these last two and we’re in. Period.
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This! You are correct in the scenarios. The one that worries me is Michigan beating Ohio State in a close game. I can see them still putting Ohio State in the 4 position.
 
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#91
#91
volfanhill said:
You have to be stupid to think otherwise. Loser of UM and OSU don't have the strength to pass
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I’m stupid. I absolutely believe a 1 loss USC would get in or a 1 loss OSU/Michigan IF the game is close. I’m stupid and I admit it.
 
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#92
Boston Vol said:
There is no P12 south. The conference did away with divisions after last season. USC, Utah, and Oregon currently have one loss, although USC is technically ahead since they’re currently 7-1, while Oregon and Utah are 6-1.
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Don't follow P12, so didn't know they dropped the divisions. Utah still has the head to head win over USC. Utes play the Ducks this weekend and USC plays UCLA, there will be clarity who plays in P12CG after these games. Regardless I don't see a P12 team picked over the Vols.
 
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#93
volfanhill said:
You have to be stupid to think otherwise. Loser of UM and OSU don't have the strength to pass
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Hard to say no problem with the Ohio State vs Michigan as one has to lose so one will not be a problem. TCU is a problem if they go undefeated and win the Big 12 no way they wouldn't be in with a League Championship. Same concern with one loss USC if they win out and win the Pac 10 then more than likely they have that edge over us. We need one of the two to lose. Be cheering for Baylor and UCLA and hope we can win our last two games.
 
#94
#94
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I think Clemson's stock is falling fast and I've not given much thought to USCw getting a "they're back!" bump from the committee.

It's probably just my arrogance but for better or worse I wish the SEC and B1G would just have their own playoff and let the others have theirs. If they want to try to play real ball...... do what TX, OU, USCw, and UCLA are doing and join a big boy conference.

An "expanded playoff" is just going to lead to elite athletes risking injury obliterating some also ran conference champ. I'd rather not.

Every year I watch the March Madness I think about some kid from Gonzaga possibly losing millions getting the 50 point win over somebody like the Southwest Pennsylvania School for Coal Miners who won the Podunk Conference to get in the dance. Please.

I don't want to see football go that way.
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Agree all around. If they wanted this to be a legit '4 best teams' playoff, it would look like this:

1. Georgia
2. Ohio State
3. UT
4. Michigan

Georgia-Michigan and Ohio State-UT semis, and let's get a UT-Georgia rematch for the natty, of it the Big 10 is really all that, a UM-OSU rematch.
 
#95
#95
Hawkeye4588 said:
I am just ticked off about Texas. What a garbage offense they have. Texas is the wealthiest program in all of sports and that is the best QB they can come up with? Between Texas and the absolute abomination that is A&M I don't think NIL money is as important as people think.
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Sark is sporting an 11-11 record at Texas.
 
#98
#98
OrangeInKy said:
I’m stupid. I absolutely believe a 1 loss USC would get in or a 1 loss OSU/Michigan IF the game is close. I’m stupid and I admit it.
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I'm right there with you except I don't think either is a lock.

It's amazing to me how a couple of people here seem to think they know with zero question what the committee is going to do before they even know.
 
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#99
Behr said:
I'm right there with you except I don't think either is a lock.

It's amazing to me how a couple of people here seem to think they know with zero question what the committee is going to do before they even know.
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yep, a lot can happen in two weeks, and it's just not about the teams that play. I.E., Utah winning out helps USC, LSU, Bama, UGA need to win to help us. It's not just about the teams in question, but the teams they've played as well.
 
#100
#100
Here’s a piece of data they should use that they don’t. The best projectors of future games and team performance is Las Vegas. Have them do a spread head to head of all the teams on a neutral site and see what their 2 cents are
 
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