Wiseman ineligible

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Wiseman will probably prepare for the 2020 NBA Draft and it will be interesting to see how long Hardaway's tenure as head coach at Memphis lasts.
 
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golfballs said:
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Well, the stakes have been raised.
 
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M10vol said:
I don't like Memphis, but this feels pretty unfair. As far as I know, the NCAA doesn't have jurisdiction to ban a player from moving to play for a high school coach. Penny had no association with Memphis at the time other than it being his alma mater and doing what many of us have done, that being donating money to their school.

What's to stop the NCAA from coming after the Vols on something trumped up? I'd be shocked if none of our players in football or basketball had something similar happen to what happened with that Ohio State player this morning. I'm all for Memphis going down, but not like this.
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You are making too much sense...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I've heard from 2 people associated with the program that they suspect someone from UK is responsible...

Some hurt feelings over the DJ Jeffries decommitment and it was only UK/Mem involved with Wiseman so UK has knowledge of the Wiseman situation
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Kentucky makes more sense than anyone else. Did Barnes waste any time recruiting Wiseman at all? I don't think so.
 
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golfballs said:
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Memphis is on trouble. Given the TSSAA issues, his history with Penny, Penny's booster status, and Wiseman's high profile status, Wiseman was subjected to joint standard eligibility review in the Spring of 2019. With that level of review, either Memphis's compliance office rubber stamped their review (lack of institutional control) or Penny lied (show cause).
 
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Oregon had a recruiting service give a high school player an evaluation. The guy from the service paid for the player and his family to come to the evaluation (transportation, room and board and meals).

That player eventually didn’t even go to Oregon, but they got penalized by the ncaa and Chip got a show cause out of the deal......the ncaa investigator even said he firmly believed that chip didn’t even know about it.

How in the world is this not at least similar.......seems much worse.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Memphis is on trouble. Given the TSSAA issues, his history with Penny, Penny's booster status, and Wiseman's high profile status, Wiseman was subjected to joint standard eligibility review in the Spring of 2019. With that level of review, either Memphis's compliance office rubber stamped their review (lack of institutional control) or Penny lied (show cause).
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I’m hopeful it’s both.😁
GBO!!
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
I guess someone is finally saying **** you NCAA. There is a court date 11/18 I think.
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Don’t get me wrong, I don’t love the NCAA.....but this just sounds strange.

If you own a business and you don’t hire someone (say for lack of knowledge or something). Can a judge now simply say......hold on a minute?

I understand sometimes things happen, but From what I read, Memphis has acknowledged the player (or family) has received impermissible benefits. Per the rules.....it don’t matter if Penny was the coach at the time or not.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Memphis is on trouble. Given the TSSAA issues, his history with Penny, Penny's booster status, and Wiseman's high profile status, Wiseman was subjected to joint standard eligibility review in the Spring of 2019. With that level of review, either Memphis's compliance office rubber stamped their review (lack of institutional control) or Penny lied (show cause).
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There is a hearing scheduled for November 18th to determine Wiseman's eligibility. Anyone else involved in a situation like this, would have waited until after that hearing to play Wiseman. Playing him tonight, when they didn't even need him to win, was not very smart.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is a hearing scheduled for November 18th to determine Wiseman's eligibility. Anyone else involved in a situation like this, would have waited until after that hearing to play Wiseman. Playing him tonight, when they didn't even need him to win, was not very smart.
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You are likely employing a coach who most likely pulled a Tressel or Pearl and you want to double bird the group that will decide his fate.

Not smart at all
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
You are likely employing a coach who most likely pulled a Tressel or Pearl and you want to double bird the group that will decide his fate.

Not smart at all
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Either that... or they were desperate to beat the hell out of Illinois-Chicago. LOL. They should not have played Wiseman tonight.
 
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JoAllan said:
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t love the NCAA.....but this just sounds strange.

If you own a business and you don’t hire someone (say for lack of knowledge or something). Can a judge now simply say......hold on a minute?

I understand sometimes things happen, but From what I read, Memphis has acknowledged the player (or family) has received impermissible benefits. Per the rules.....it don’t matter if Penny was the coach at the time or not.
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If Balin beats them that will only make him stronger in kids eyes. That being said I hope they beat the NCAA and other schools follow.
 

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BowlBrother85 said:
There is a hearing scheduled for November 18th to determine Wiseman's eligibility. Anyone else involved in a situation like this, would have waited until after that hearing to play Wiseman. Playing him tonight, when they didn't even need him to win, was not very smart.
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The NCAA determines eligibility not the courts.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Either that... or they were desperate to beat the hell out of Illinois-Chicago. LOL. They should not have played Wiseman tonight.
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Well, game on now between Tiger High and the NCAA. Should be interesting, and after the Will Wade stuff, who knows what will happen.
 
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JoAllan said:
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t love the NCAA.....but this just sounds strange.

If you own a business and you don’t hire someone (say for lack of knowledge or something). Can a judge now simply say......hold on a minute?

I understand sometimes things happen, but From what I read, Memphis has acknowledged the player (or family) has received impermissible benefits. Per the rules.....it don’t matter if Penny was the coach at the time or not.
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That is exactly right. It only matters that Penny had done enough to be considered a Memphis booster.
 
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Also on top of everything else, Wiseman can possibly sue the NCAA for clearing him know about the whole thing, and win. He could have gone another route if they would not have cleared him.
 
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