With 7 wins,is Coach Fulmers job secure?

#76
#76
Lexvol said:
I was at the stadium, but I was in a suite (glass was pretty insulated), so I really didn't get the full effect. It seemed pretty loud.
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must have been nice, lobster, caviar, movie stars....ahh to be one of the elite like lex:)
 
#77
#77
He has won every game that UT should have won this year. We have played two games in which the other team was better than UT. In both games, UT was leading in the 4th quarter and in position to win. I think Fulmer has done a good job this season and do not see what could have been different. Anybody who thinks our talent was better than UF or LSU is not being objective. We were in position to win two games in which we were the inferior team and we have won every game in which we were the superior team. UK and Vandy will not be a problem most likely. So, the big debate on coaching this season will be beating Arkansas. We will have a backup QB playing and we match-up poorly with them considering we have not been stopping the run very well the past few games. Although, Arkansas does not have a running QB like the last two teams. How they are "coached up" going into the Arkansas game will tell a lot about the success of this season. The final months of the recruiting process will also tell a story for the success of the staff this season.
 
#78
#78
At this point in the season there is NO reason his job should be questioned. We should beat UK and Vandy and have a real good shot of beating Arkansas. That puts us at 10-2 heading into the bowl game. Win or lose in the bowl game that should be good enough. Next year should be a great season and Phil's job should be safe for several more seasons.
 
#79
#79
Lexvol said:
I want talent on the level with LSU and Florida.
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amen lexvol. i have abad feeling if our recruiting don't get better we are in for another 5-6 season down the road. we have already lost our homefield advantage, if we don't start recruiting again on the scale of florida and lsu we are in trouble. it could be the florida spurrier days all over again.
 
#80
#80
Fulmer's job is definitely secure for the time being.
Even if UT stays at 7 wins, I think he's probably safe because
(a) made it to a bowl, and
(b) 17 commits so far with some really good names in there...

So, overall, I'd say he's definitely safe through the 2007 and 2008 season.

But... I gotta think that people are really gonna start getting REALLY REALLY crazy if there's not an SEC Championship by 2008 at the latest.

Tenn could have 7 wins or 8 wins or 10 wins... could even lose to Florida AND Georgia year in/year out... and it would make ZERO difference *IF* we were still winning the SEC East and at least competing in the SECCG with an occasional SEC Championship victory every now and then.

If UT could magically have only 7 wins and still manage to at least get to the SECCG, that would keep Fulmer's job safe.

You've GOT to win the SEC from time to time in order to stay secure in your job (that's my opinion).

Remember --- John Cooper was fired from Ohio State for at least two reasons --- crappy record against Michigan and couldn't win an outright Big 10 championship. Ohio State had some hella good teams during his tenure.

Since 1998/99, it just looks to me as if Fulmer is dangerously close to drinking the Cooper Kool Aid, so to speak.
 
#81
#81
On a side note, I also thought that Mack Brown was getting dangerously close to going the way of John Cooper as well...

Think he was lucky to make people forget about everything they've been bitching about for the past several years when they won it all last year.
 
#82
#82
Personally, I think Mack Brown IS John Cooper . . . but Vince Young happened.
 
#83
#83
tango said:
Fulmer's job is definitely secure for the time being.
Even if UT stays at 7 wins, I think he's probably safe because
(a) made it to a bowl, and
(b) 17 commits so far with some really good names in there...

So, overall, I'd say he's definitely safe through the 2007 and 2008 season.

But... I gotta think that people are really gonna start getting REALLY REALLY crazy if there's not an SEC Championship by 2008 at the latest.

Tenn could have 7 wins or 8 wins or 10 wins... could even lose to Florida AND Georgia year in/year out... and it would make ZERO difference *IF* we were still winning the SEC East and at least competing in the SECCG with an occasional SEC Championship victory every now and then.

If UT could magically have only 7 wins and still manage to at least get to the SECCG, that would keep Fulmer's job safe.

You've GOT to win the SEC from time to time in order to stay secure in your job (that's my opinion).

Remember --- John Cooper was fired from Ohio State for at least two reasons --- crappy record against Michigan and couldn't win an outright Big 10 championship. Ohio State had some hella good teams during his tenure.

Since 1998/99, it just looks to me as if Fulmer is dangerously close to drinking the Cooper Kool Aid, so to speak.
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tango, funny you mentioned that. my friends and family in ohio often call us the OSU of the south, with references to fulmer and cooper.
 
#85
#85
tidwell said:
I could live with the Vols having the success they did during the 90s just about every decade.
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i'm glad you can, but most fans can't handle loosing to florida every year. at one point they were asking if it was a rivalry anymore.
 
#86
#86
I was completely oblivious to the fact the Vols went 0 for the 90s against Florida.
 
#89
#89
Yeap Vols were 3-7 in 90s against the Gators. But NOBODY was getting over on the Gators except FSU. Believe our record against them in the 90 was the best in the SEC. They were beating everyone. Just remember starting with the win in 98 we are 4-4 with two wins in Gainesville.
 
#90
#90
We won 3 SEC titles in the 90s including 1 NC. I'd say that is pretty good.

I've always thought Cooper, Brown, and Fulmer were the same guy in different clothes. Their teams looked and played the same in the games that mattered. Talent overcome coaching with all of them in many cases.

Fulmer and Brown had those singular magical years when everything broke right with an unusual amount of talent and leadership in the right places. But I don't think you can win it all on talent alone. There have to be some good assistants in there to make it go on the field.
 
#93
#93
MG1968 said:
heh, let's fire them all and hire Hal Mummy or Tim Curry.

fulmer haters need to be careful they actually get what they wish for. Buzz Peterson should have taught you that firing a successful coach doesn't always mean his successor is the savior of the program.
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Yeah, we should have kept Jerry Green. The program would be in great shape now. What basketball power snapped him up after we so stupidly dismissed that Woodenesque genius? I'm sure he's been to several Final Fours by now, I just can't seem to remember them.
 
#94
#94
MG1968 said:
heh, let's fire them all and hire Hal Mummy or Tim Curry.

fulmer haters need to be careful they actually get what they wish for. Buzz Peterson should have taught you that firing a successful coach doesn't always mean his successor is the savior of the program.
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Tim Curry? The actor? I didn't realize he had a football background.
 
#97
#97
hatvol96 said:
Great logic. A guy crashes his car and you give him credit for having the dents knocked out. Brilliant.
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Exactly right. I'm often a little perplexed that, on one hand, most everyone derides a 5-6 season with the team we had; but then turn right around and point to us "improving on that" as evidence of it being fixed. It's kind of a funny standard.

Now, we have improved substantially and are having a decent season. But good has been dumbed down to a comparison between one of the worst seasons and coaching jobs in recent memory and forthcoming seasons.
 
#98
#98
i love our fans. nothing but 13-0 baby.. what's truly pathetic is that this time year we could be sitting 9-0 and ya'll will still be calling for fulmer's head, calling it a miracle that we're undefeated w/ him as coach.. never happy
 
#99
#99
volfanbill said:
i love our fans. nothing but 13-0 baby.. what's truly pathetic is that this time year we could be sitting 9-0 and ya'll will still be calling for fulmer's head, calling it a miracle that we're undefeated w/ him as coach.. never happy
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No, what's truly pathetic is a group of fans so delusional that they allow their expectations to be dumbed down by a pathetic performance like last season. Actually, fans like you are getting exactly the program you deserve. No SEC titles in 8 seasons, 2 in 14. That's actually more success than the Fulmerites deserve.
 
#100
#100
can't wait for fulmer to get canned, then they don't get a successful hire, we got 6-7 for years to come... all i'm saying is give fulmer his deserved shot to finish turning this team around. anyone who thinks that any coach should run the table every year is foolish. thinking tennessee should go 13-0 this year as well is equally as foolish
 
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