Woman Has 15 Abortions In 17 Years

[BigPapaVol]

I just don't think anyone should be playing god and determinning you lives and who dies. And to me its not a choice a woman should have.

but you've missed all of the intricacies of the argument. God can't be a part of the legal ruling and something has to gain status as a human being before our government can protect its life.

 

[droski]

Exactly, and to say it isn't murder at 25 weeks is equally ridiculous.

I don't pretend to know where the cut-off is, but I do know both extremes have it completely wrong on this.

100% agree. i think it's disgusting that we allow late term abortions.

 

[volfanjustin]

Reagan couldn't have given a crap less about the social garbage he lent his name to. He was a small government hawk, as am I.

As I am, but to say he did not care is ridiculous.

 

[KB5252]

Reagan wore a coat of many colors.

He stole it from Dolly Parton, he was an immoral thief.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

Are trying to say prohibition was a good idea?

Not at all... I came from a family with a proud heritage of bootleggers.

 

[wbailey7]

why do you get to determine who lives?

Because people in his camp obviously knows more about the issue than anyone ever could, duh.

 

[volfanjustin]

Exactly, and to say it isn't murder at 25 weeks is equally ridiculous.

I don't pretend to know where the cut-off is, but I do know both extremes have it completely wrong on this.[/QUO

Well why not wait until 5 years old. If she decides well I should have had an abortion, then maybe she could just kill her child at 3 years or 10 years old then. Whats the difference

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

i think there was an episode of south park about that

 

[volfanjustin]

why do you get to determine who lives?

I want all unborn children to live. Whats your question

 

[BigPapaVol]

As I am, but to say he did not care is ridiculous.

no it isn't. The guy lent his name to many causes for the sake of his conservatism, but he didn't care about them. His bent was less taxation, small government and military might. He was successful for those 3 reasons. Anything about social politics is distantly secondary to his administration.

 

[rjd970]

Well why not wait until 5 years old. If she decides well I should have had an abortion, then maybe she could just kill her child at 3 years or 10 years old then. Whats the difference

I rest my case about the extremes.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

Exactly, and to say it isn't murder at 25 weeks is equally ridiculous.

I don't pretend to know where the cut-off is, but I do know both extremes have it completely wrong on this.[/QUO

Well why not wait until 5 years old. If she decides well I should have had an abortion, then maybe she could just kill her child at 3 years or 10 years old then. Whats the difference

Maybe I misread it, but I think RJD's statement was actually in your favor.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Exactly, and to say it isn't murder at 25 weeks is equally ridiculous.

I don't pretend to know where the cut-off is, but I do know both extremes have it completely wrong on this.[/QUO

Well why not wait until 5 years old. If she decides well I should have had an abortion, then maybe she could just kill her child at 3 years or 10 years old then. Whats the difference

The difference is that all of those ages signify time since birth. Birth being the demarcation line between fetus and baby.

Viable fetus is a much tougher issue. Late term abortions should absolutely be done away with. We have clearly proven that those fetuses can live without mom. She loses her right to decide at the point of viability.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I want all unborn children to live. Whats your question

what is an unborn child?

 

[droski]

I want all unborn children to live. Whats your question

you just said you don't get why women get to decide who lives and who dies, but you want to decide who lives right?

 

[volfanjustin]

no it isn't. The guy lent his name to many causes for the sake of his conservatism, but he didn't care about them. His bent was less taxation, small government and military might. He was successful for those 3 reasons. Anything about social politics is distantly secondary to his administration.

I don't disagree with you about the 3 issues you are talking about. But do you think he would agree with me or you on this issue?

 

[volfanjustin]

The difference is that all of those ages signify time since birth. Birth being the demarcation line between fetus and baby.

Viable fetus is a much tougher issue. Late term abortions should absolutely be done away with. We have clearly proven that those fetuses can live without mom. She loses her right to decide at the point of viability.

No difference between 2 weeks, 10 weeks or 2 years old to me.

 

[rjd970]

Viable fetus is a much tougher issue. Late term abortions should absolutely be done away with. We have clearly proven that those fetuses can live without mom. She loses her right to decide at the point of viability.

That is the best one sentence explanation about my stance. The debate and issue with this belief is when that point of viability is.

 

[volfanjustin]

you just said you don't get why women get to decide who lives and who dies, but you want to decide who lives right?

Your question does not make a lot of sense. If she did not want to get pregnant then she should not have laid down.

 

[droski]

No difference between 2 weeks, 10 weeks or 2 years old to me.

what about if the egg is fertilized but doesn't take hold on the uterus?

 

[BigPapaVol]

I don't disagree with you about the 3 issues you are talking about. But do you think he would agree with me or you on this issue?

If skinnied down to brass tacks, he would be ambivalent. If forced to render an opinion, he, like me, would probably be against abortion.

I personally find abortion detestable, but that doesn't change that women should have the right to decide. I agree with forcing a decision early. I would never advocate that my daughter have an abortion, if it came to it, but that doesn't change the right and wrong of the legal ruling.

 

[droski]

Your question does not make a lot of sense. If she did not want to get pregnant then she should not have laid down.

i see. so everytime you've had sex you wanted to have a baby?

 

[BigPapaVol]

That is the best one sentence explanation about my stance. The debate and issue with this belief is when that point of viability is.

absolutely. Now it's between 22 and 23 weeks gestation.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Your question does not make a lot of sense. If she did not want to get pregnant then she should not have laid down.

Sweet. The head in the sand abstinence approach is solid. Falwell would be proud.

 

[volfanjustin]

what about if the egg is fertilized but doesn't take hold on the uterus?

That is a different thing all together. That is behind man's control. A person is not making that decision.