Workers are applying for jobs left and right, but hearing nothing back

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Orangeburst said:
Why do u keep harping on the pay? I said IDK and pointed out the lack of a courtesy phone call. These were face to face appointments, not applications
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That was a discussion from several posts ago. Don't know why you're bringing that up. You completely ignored everything I just said.
 
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ButchPlz said:
This is a strawman argument, and a bad one at that.

Not one person in here has said anyone is beneath them. It is a simple reality, however, that certain jobs and positions are less valuable than others.
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Yes. The fact that you feel certain positions are less valuable than others does indeed tell me you think certain people are beneath others.

I'm not surprised people think this way though.

I just hope people aren't sharing these feelings in Sunday school class.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Yes. The fact that you feel certain positions are less valuable than others does indeed tell me you think certain people are beneath others.

I'm not surprised people think this way though.

I just hope people aren't sharing these feelings in Sunday school class.
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There is no possible discussion that can be had with someone that speaks like this.

You're completely ignorant of the concept of "value", economically illiterate, and completely closed-minded. And again, the fact that people like you get a say in our country is why it's headed straight for disaster.
 
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ButchPlz said:
There is no possible discussion that can be had with someone that speaks like this.

You're completely ignorant of the concept of "value", economically illiterate, and completely closed-minded. And again, the fact that people like you get a say in our country is why it's headed straight for disaster.
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And the fact that there are people like you who go out of your way to argue as to why some people's jobs are less valuable than others shows a lot about your character.
 
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DonjoVol said:
That was a discussion from several posts ago. Don't know why you're bringing that up. You completely ignored everything I just said.
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Dude, you literally responded to my first post that had nothing to do with wages.
Then I mention another post about "inflated wages". You seem to have "fair wage" confused with "inflated wage" regardless of skill or experience.
 
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By the way. I already know the Democrat party is NOT the party of the working class or middle class. But some of you guys are not helping your cause by blatantly demeaning working class people in your responses to me.

So stop and think about some of your responses for a moment.
 
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DonjoVol said:
By the way. I already know the Democrat party is NOT the party of the working class or middle class. But some of you guys are not helping your cause by blatantly demeaning working class people in your responses to me.

So stop and think about some of your responses for a moment.
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I’ve not seen anyone in this discussion demean working class people.
 
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allvol123 said:
Utter nonsense. You take care of the ones that produce for you until that relationship no longer pays off, then you don’t.
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Show me where it says that and who has advocated for that in the past?

And show me some scriptures in the Bible where it says we don't take care of others and where other people's jobs are more important than others .

Do you want the Republican party and Conservatives to be for working people or not?
 
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DonjoVol said:
Show me where it says that and who has advocated for that in the past?

And show me some scriptures in the Bible where it says we don't take care of others and where other people's jobs are more important than others .

Do you want the Republican party and Conservatives to be for working people or not?
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4:20 much? I’m done.
 
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allvol123 said:
I’ve not seen anyone in this discussion demean working class people.
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Then maybe stop saying some jobs are less valuable than others.

In the whole cycle of the operations of a company every job has its importance.

Take FedEx for example. They cannot operate without their warehouse workers or their drivers. Yet the CEO of the company makes more than any driver or warehouse worker dreams of making. Do you really want to make the claim that the CEO of FedEx is more important than the drivers and warehouse workers who are part of the backbone of the company? Who are big part of the reason the company is able to operate daily.
 
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DonjoVol said:
And the fact that there are people like you who go out of your way to argue as to why some people's jobs are less valuable than others shows a lot about your character.
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Apparently you haven't learned enough about economics yet to realize that the way that goods and services are valued is by assigning prices to them. With respect to people working for a company, that price is called their salary or hourly wage. The fact that all employees are NOT paid the same salary or hourly wage means that companies do not assign the same value to all employees.
 
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DonjoVol said:
By the way. I already know the Democrat party is NOT the party of the working class or middle class. But some of you guys are not helping your cause by blatantly demeaning working class people in your responses to me.

So stop and think about some of your responses for a moment.
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We're dealing with someone that has the economic knowledge of a first grader. That is our issue. Whose fault is that? Your parents and the liberal Democrats controlling the incompetent teachers unions are to blame for that fact.
 
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allvol123 said:
I’ve not seen anyone in this discussion demean working class people.
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...and, in fact, I stated earlier, "Are they "as valuable" as a person? Absolutely. Do they have the same value to the company as anyone else? No. That's the entire reason that different positions receive different pay."
 
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Vol423 said:
Apparently you having learned enough about economics yet to realize that the way that goods and services are valued is by assigning prices to them. With respect to people working for a company, that price is called their salary or hourly wage. The fact that all employees are NOT paid the same salary or hourly wage means that companies do not assign the same value to all employees.
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I'm not stupid so quit talking to me like I am.
My original point was that working people in an organization should be paid a higher wage. Many companies can afford to do so. Many jobs should be paying $15-18 an hour instead of $12-14. Many restaurants have bumped starting pay up an extra $2 to $3 an hour. They should have done this 3 to 4 years ago.

And yes every job in every organization is of equal value. The fact that people are still going out of their way to demean working class people amazes me.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I'm not stupid so quit talking to me like I am.
My original point was that working people in an organization should be paid a higher wage. Many companies can afford to do so. Many jobs should be paying $15-18 an hour instead of $12-14. Many restaurants have bumped starting pay up an extra $2 to $3 an hour. They should have done this 3 to 4 years ago.

And yes every job in every organization is of equal value. The fact that people are still going out of their way to demean working class people amazes me.
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You're utterly hopeless. I weep for the future of our nation as a result of your socialist generation.
 
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The pendulum will swing the other way. Right now it heavily favors the employee. When the next recession hits it will swing hard back to employers. And those who got massive raises won't keep them IMO. They will be forced to do more, have wages reduced, or told to take a hike. People pretending like this is some monumental shift in the employer employee relationship are clueless. Just look back fo 2008. I remember interviewing former Saturn line workers, who were making $30 an hour, and offering them $10 to work for me. It's the way the market works.
 
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