Yemi Makanjoula commits to Tennessee

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GoBigOrangeVols said:
again, everywhere. He went from a solid 20 minute a game guy to a UT classic.
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Yes, his role expanded as everyone has noted. Was his skillset any better? I can't think of one thing he was appreciably better at his senior year than his freshman year except maybe freethrow shooting.

And, I'm not at all hating on Chism. He was a solid contributor for us. I am suggesting, however, that if he'd been properly developed, he had NBA potential.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Yes, his role expanded as everyone has noted. Was his skillset any better? I can't think of one thing he was appreciably better at his senior year than his freshman year except maybe freethrow shooting.

And, I'm not at all hating on Chism. He was a solid contributor for us. I am suggesting, however, that if he'd been properly developed, he had NBA potential.
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He was never an above the rim player, which is a prerequisite for playing at the next level. He was a double double player at UT which is much better than most ever thought he would be.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
He was never an above the rim player, which is a prerequisite for playing at the next level. He was a double double player at UT which is much better than most ever thought he would be.
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He didn't have to be an above the rim player to make the League; he just needed to improve his skillset. Also, in what world is averaging 11 points and 7 boards a game for one's career much more than anyone would expect from the #34 player in the country out of high school?
 
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LawVol13 said:
He didn't have to be an above the rim player to make the League; he just needed to improve his skillset. Also, in what world is averaging 11 points and 7 boards a game for one's career much more than anyone would expect from the #34 player in the country out of high school?
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I don't think he ever had the skill set to be an NBA player. Not enough bounce to play 4 and not enough speed or shot to play 3.

Was an excellent college player though.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
I don't think he ever had the skill set to be an NBA player. Not enough bounce to play 4 and not enough speed or shot to play 3.

Was an excellent college player though.
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Dont waste your time. They arent gonna take the blinders off anytime soon.
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LawVol13 said:
Yes, his role expanded as everyone has noted. Was his skillset any better? I can't think of one thing he was appreciably better at his senior year than his freshman year except maybe freethrow shooting.

And, I'm not at all hating on Chism. He was a solid contributor for us. I am suggesting, however, that if he'd been properly developed, he had NBA potential.
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His defense, left hand finishes, inside game and leadership, much less points, rebounds, etc. You don't have the UT and SEC rankings he had without improving. You guys focus on .05% differences in shooting, but don't take into consideration that he hit and took more shots. I'll take a 1% decrease in 3's if he hits 30 more during the season. He had no pg and no post to help him his last 2 years. He had many accolades and recognitions, which you don't get unless you improve. He came out of boliver as a finesse player and was considered soft. (see how Willie Kemp developed under Cal) That you guys think coaching had nothing to do with his development is crazy. He's a tweener in the NBA, which holds him back. Finally, I don't care as much as you guys about NBA development. Out of the all 5 nba team you find one guard who went to school for 1 year and he cheated on the SAT to get in. What college is currently a great program for "prepping" nba players? It's whomever recruits the top 25-30 camp and aau phenoms for 1 or 2 years. They have the nba game before they get to campus. BP did have players regress, and he is blamed. BP had players progress, and it's just because the player did it himself. It can't be both ways, unless you can't be objective about it. Some of you can't.
 
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In 4-5 years I will conveniently forget 3 of the above 4 opinions and will loudly tell everyone how smart I am for successfully predicting his career.
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LawVol13 said:
Brian Williams regressed from his Junior year to his Senior year. That was plainly obvious to anyone who watched any games this year.
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The entire returning team regressed due to off the field issues with BP and losing maze, chism and prince. BW sure did frustrate us all at times with his inability to finish inside and his body language, but he was an overweight project out of HS and won 6th man (didn't he?) his sr yr. I don't think that is regression. He just didn't live up to what some of us expect.
 
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pl3 said:
The entire returning team regressed due to off the field issues with BP and losing maze, chism and prince. BW sure did frustrate us all at times with his inability to finish inside and his body language, but he was an overweight project out of HS and won 6th man (didn't he?) his sr yr. I don't think that is regression. He just didn't live up to what some of us expect.
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I was told by an assistant coach at UT that BW was a cancer on the team.

Don't have a big problem with BW's game, he served his purpose overall, but BP should have reigned in his attitude and by the time he was a SR it's too late.
 
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shortgameVol said:
I would agree on Tatum, but he has been hurt a lot too. He also isn't finished with his career. He has one more year.

I've watched very closely. I can honestly say there hasn't been MANY who have regressed. It's just not the case.

Look, I know you hated Pearl.Because of that fact, your opinion can't be viewed as objective.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Just to set the record straight, I did not hate Pearl. I thought Pearl was a perfect fit for UT. However, I did not continue to support him after the NCAA mess. I thought the integrity of our university and basketball program were more important that keeping a lying and unethical coach. I very much detest the position he placed the university and basketball program and can find no excuse for his behavior. I have acknowledged that Hat was right about his ethics all along. To say I hated him and can't be objective is simply not true. I felt there was no choice but to fire him due to his behavior and damage he did to the program. All our current issues go directly to his unethical behavior and I in no way condone that.
 
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JZVOL said:
I was told by an assistant coach at UT that BW was a cancer on the team.

Don't have a big problem with BW's game, he served his purpose overall, but BP should have reigned in his attitude and by the time he was a SR it's too late.
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Don't disagree, but just a few opine points:

--The team loved BW. His attitude was a problem for the coaches and should have been reigned in.
--He was suspended a bunch of games and the staff should have been on top of him better, prior to the event. IMO, after that, he has to be held more accountable. If getting arrested and suspended doesn't set you straight, wth is a lameduck coach going to do for you?
--He's from the Bronx. You mix a sr with bronx attitude/personality with some young, southern, highly rated kids and you are going to have run ins on and off the floor. It always happens, even if you don't have the same circumstances in play. It turns into a "cancer" when you are losing or spiraling, as we were.
 
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bamacheats said:
I've watched UT hoops the last 25 years. Section 107 since the Tommy Bol opened. Brian Williams got more minutes, he didn't get better. In his defense though, he was a project.
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Yes he did. He was much improved from freshman to sophmore and from sophmore to junior. If you don't think so, no amount of games you attend will give you a clue.

Your statement is easily the most uninformed in this thread.
 
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LawVol13 said:
When you have to bring that type of crap to the table, that means you really don't have anything to post. Wayne Chism didn't get significantly better at any aspect of his game during his 4 years here. He took on an expanded role his last couple of years. He averaged 9 ppg as a true Freshman and 12.6 ppg as a senior. He shot 32.9% from three as a freshman, and 32.3% as a senior. He shot 44% his freshman year from the field, and 47% as a senior. He averaged 2 more rebounds per game his senior year than his freshman year. So, you tell me where all the massive improvement was.
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You'll learn as you get older that stats don't mean anything without detail. You're not going to win a debate with this garbage. Wayne Chism was much better as a senior than he was as a freshman. If you don't think so, you haven't got the first clue.
 
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shortgameVol said:
You'll learn as you get older that stats don't mean anything without detail. You're not going to win a debate with this garbage. Wayne Chism was much better as a senior than he was as a freshman. If you don't think so, you haven't got the first clue.
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agreed, and no one with any basketball background or general knowledge would begin to disagree. weezy would laugh at this guy

the thing is..if you had said the exact opposite from the start he'd have argued the other side till his last breath. if you say the sky is blue theres 4-5 people here that will argue that its not.

***queue the cutesy one liner insult with random word or reference inside
 
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ochocinco said:
agreed, and no one with any basketball background or general knowledge would begin to disagree. weezy would laugh at this guy

the thing is..if you had said the exact opposite from the start he'd have argued the other side till his last breath. if you say the sky is blue theres 4-5 people here that will argue that its not.
***queue the cutesy one liner insult with random word or reference inside
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Its light blue.
 
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