‘18 QB Grad Transfer Keller Chryst (UT commit 3/1/18)

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volfanngatorland said:
Josh Dobbs looked pretty good in that flawed offense with sub par coaching

JG and WM looked like one of the worst QB rooms in P5
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Any QB in Jones's system has to have good enough wheels to save the play when the pocket breaks down because the pocket will inevitably break down.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
JG averaged 110 ypg and 0.4 TD pg. Thats bad, especially for a pocket passer like JG.
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And this guy averaged less yards per attempt with much more experience, Much much better coaching and a much much much better supporting staff.

JG had a nice completion % for a guy playing under an absolutely awful OC. He didn't throw the ball to the other team either.

We haven't seen JGs ceiling but we have seen this guys.
 
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BruinVol said:
And this guy averaged less yards per attempt with much more experience, Much much better coaching and a much much much better supporting staff.

JG had a nice completion % for a guy playing under an absolutely awful OC. He didn't throw the ball to the other team either.

We haven't seen JGs ceiling but we have seen this guys.
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I was commenting on you saying JGs stats weren’t bad at all.

No rational person would think that. Looks like our coaches don’t either.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Josh Dobbs looked pretty good in that flawed offense with sub par coaching

JG and WM looked like one of the worst QB rooms in P5
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Josh Dobbs was the only one. Peterman is a QB who looked like crap in that system and thrived under another coach. Heck so much so he got himself drafted. Everyone isnt the athlete Dobbs was. Idk think you quite understand how freakish his performances was.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
I was commenting on you saying JGs stats weren’t bad at all.

No rational person would think that. Looks like our coaches don’t either.
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His numbers reflected a QB that was just a game manager. Had decent passing numbers. Better than this guy which is extremely telling for an older player on a really good team.

The problem was we needed JG to be much better than a game manager because our defense, coaching, and OL all sucked balls.
 
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People have wrong idea. This would be a depth/create competition play. If he wins so be it buts it's not bringing in to hand him job. what you should be comparing is would you rather go into a season with the following:

JG/KC or Thomson/McBride/Shrout

Or

JG/ McBride/Shrout

I'll take option #1 and don't care who starts
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
People have wrong idea. This would be a depth/create competition play. If he wins so be it buts it's not bringing in to hand him job. what you should be comparing is would you rather go into a season with the following:

JG/KC or Thomson/McBride/Shrout

Or

JG/ McBride/Shrout

I'll take option #1 and don't care who starts
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Well said.

This is why I want him but hope he never plays a meaningful snap.
 
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BruinVol said:
Well said.

This is why I want him but hope he never plays a meaningful snap.
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Yep but if I'm a HC ain't no way I'm trusting JG to last an entire season or what's behind him when I can add a guy with power 5 game experience as a Saftey net
 
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The only opinions that matter on whether or not we need a grad transfer QB is that of the coaches, so arguing about it is pointless.
 
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Based on or OLine, Coaches probably think they may need many more QBs and also have Juan Jennings on standby..
 
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Why are you guys even arguing this right now? As far as I can tell, theres been no confirmed Chryst to UT interest. Only one media guy made speculation.

Regarding our current QB situation - I like JG and have high hopes for him. I would love for him to be "the guy." I am not going to hold 2017 against any current player because this season was a dumpster fire on many levels. But as much as I'm rooting for him, and giving him a pass for last year, I'm also acknowledging that he's done nothing to warrant being handed the starting job. He needs to compete for it, and hopefully against someone capable.

Remember, he's still a young player and he's facing a change in offensive philosophy.

Additionally... 2019 is going to be the foundation class for the Pruitt Era. We can't afford to be floundering around. We need to show significant progress on the field and in the win column. We're fishing in a deeper pond now. We have higher aspirations. I trust the coaching staff no matter what they do or whatever decision they make.
 
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UTVolax24 said:
Let's lay this out rather simply. Given the coaches are now talking to 3 possible transfers (if you include Chryst), one can easily draw the conclusion that the new coaching staff doesn't believe JG is the future or the present, and the same goes for any QB that was on the roster in 2017.

If the coaches bring in a transfer or 2 it's likely because they believe these transfers can start for us immediately and provide an upgrade to the QB position.

Pretty simple.
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What it means is JG needs a little more time with good coaching and live reps and we need someone else other than McBride as the backup. At this point a grad transfer can come in and you can develop JG and IF A QB goes down we are still not to McBride and Shroud needs to redshirt. We need a guy to come in who will either win the job or push JG to be better.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
People have wrong idea. This would be a depth/create competition play. If he wins so be it buts it's not bringing in to hand him job. what you should be comparing is would you rather go into a season with the following:

JG/KC or Thomson/McBride/Shrout

Or

JG/ McBride/Shrout

I'll take option #1 and don't care who starts
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A guy who gets it. This is what is truly simple.
 
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JacketVol said:
What it means is JG needs a little more time with good coaching and live reps and we need someone else other than McBride as the backup. At this point a grad transfer can come in and you can develop JG and IF A QB goes down we are still not to McBride and Shroud needs to redshirt. We need a guy to come in who will either win the job or push JG to be better.
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Exactly. We have no reason to believe JG is their guy. You can add depth in any number of ways, but these guys would come here with the chance to start / compete for the starting spot. So if 1 or 2 or 3 players decide to transfer here it's safe to assume no one on the coaching staff is sold on JG. Will he be given the chance to win the starting spot? Of course, but these potential transfers wouldn't come here if JG was their guy.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Stanford is a pretty big program that has played some big games the last couple of years. I like to watch more than just Tennessee play. So I typically get to see the major programs play at least a couple of times each year.

There is a reason Chryst is transferring. He's not good enough to play at Stanford. I personally don't want a guy who can't play at another major program. Its not like he's got Andrew Luck ahead of him. I will say this about him, he definitely looks the part. He's tall, strong, and decently athletic. He just lacks the IT factor and instincts. Much like JG.

The best QB on our roster is Will McBride. He has the best instincts and IT factor. He reminds me of Penn State QB Trace McSorely. Neither are pro QBs but they can be really good college QBs.
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Just like Peterman and Ferguson were not good enough to play for Tennessee. And we all see how they turned out.
 
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UTVolax24 said:
Exactly. We have no reason to believe JG is their guy. You can add depth in any number of ways, but these guys would come here with the chance to start / compete for the starting spot. So if 1 or 2 or 3 players decide to transfer here it's safe to assume no one on the coaching staff is sold on JG. Will he be given the chance to win the starting spot? Of course, but these potential transfers wouldn't come here if JG was their guy.
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These coaches are selling you can come in here to compete to be the guy but they are giving out noting. But these transfers can see they have a giant opportunity to win it. But these coaches also know we need JG or antransfer to start and the other to be a backup cause we have almost nothing otherwise BUT just because they bring in a transfer doesn’t mean they think JG isn’t capable to be developed into a starter. The talent is there but boy needs to hit the weight room.
 
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We have no business judging any of our players based on what they've done on the field so far. I think we all have reached a consensus that Player Development was non-existent during the Butch Jones era. All of these players that we think are a bust are potentially one new coach away from having breakout years. We've seen quarterbacks come through the Butch Jones system and wash out only to end up going to other universities and lighting up the world.
 
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UTVolax24 said:
I personally don't have an informed opinion on him. Would need to watch some High School film and some of his College tape. Can definitely (and will tomorrow) reach out to my buddies on the west coast for their opinion on him from high school and their opinion of him now. Their opinion will count significantly more than mine. They also gave me their rundown on JT.



He is NOT the 2nd transfer I had previously referred too.
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Is he better than Thomson?
 
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Weezer said:
The only opinions that matter on whether or not we need a grad transfer QB is that of the coaches, so arguing about it is pointless.
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How can anyone argue adding depth and pro style experience at a position plagued with question marks? Absolutely silly to not bring this kid in.
 
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