#1 SC vs #2 Stanford Tuesday deserves its own thread

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VolBall09 said:
Doubt it. Really don’t think SC has the put away ability. That freshman class is going to see fewer than 10 minutes. They do not play well and haven’t gotten enough minutes in the non-con to improve. Hard to imagine she’ll be able to play them much in the SEC. Lots of tough teams they won’t be getting any passes.

Cardoso will play more in the SEC but so far she has not shown any ability to play with the physicality required in this league. Stanford is a very physical team and she couldn’t play with them. Was out there for five minutes maybe and got blocked twice and scored on 3 times.
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Wish some players would think, ask questions get advice be4 making move to transfer. Few it works for them, but others no way. We recruited Cardoso heavily but she refused then transferred to SC ...She would've been great with Lady vols.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Tennessee is a better team than last season. We could be undefeated if we hadn't missed 13 free throws in the Stanford game. Key got in early foul trouble and only played 16 minutes. We won the 16 minutes she played by a large margin and lost big the 24 minutes she did not play. If Rae gets back were a legitimate challenge for the final four. As stands I can see us getting to the sweet sixteen and maybe the elite 8. We may have the freshman of the year on our team she is certainly a candidate. We haven't seen the best play of Alexus Dye although she has been coming on of late. I certainly expect Sc to win the SEC if they don't get covid and have to forfeit some games, but Tennessee is certainly a contender and totally believe we will finish in the top four again this season.
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Add in the expected improvements of Miles, Striplin, and older players and we could be looking at a very special season. I think the key to how special we can be is Horston. If Kellie can just tame that wildness harness it for us, look out.
 
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Mr.Pivot said:
Like I said at least provide some facts to the statements you’ve made. They haven’t played that much because the Schedule has been a top 25 team every week. No other freshmen in the country has had to endure that. Also you’re naming teams that don’t have a punchers chance of winning the SEC. Folks like to throw out “ Any given night any team can lose” but facts are the facts and the fact of this matter is SC is 30-2 in the last two season in the SEC. We also forget to mention the fact that SC has won the Tournament 6 out of the last 7 years. Of those teams mentioned only A&M and UT beat SC in that time and neither are as good as they were last year. Georgia and LSU has been playing very well and that’s why I listed those teams as the toughest challengers to SC. Take it for what it’s worth SC isn’t unbeatable, but it’s hard for me to see any of these offensive ridden teams in the SEC beating them, especially after juggernauts UConn and Stanford couldn’t even after attaining sizable leads.

UT could join the two I named when Rae comes back. With her they are a much different team, without her not so much.
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We have done just fine without her. We will be better with her but you’re confused.

Remember who won last season?
 
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Compared to the undefeated 18-19 SC team this years team is more talented, deeper, better on the boards and defensively. If I had to choose which is better, I would still give the slight edge to the 18-19 team because the 18-19 team had T. Harris at the point. If anything is going to hold SC back this season it's Henderson due to inconsistent focus. Because of its importance she played great last night but she doesn't run her team as well as Harris for the most part.

I wonder if the way in which last night's game unfolded (lights out shooting from Stanford in the first half and SC's epic comeback in the second half) makes SC more dominant. Perhaps Stanford gave SC its best shot and they still couldn't beat them. The second half and the third quarter in particular in both the TN and last night's game showed that if you can smother Stanford's guards they have trouble running their offense. They also have trouble against skilled ultra-quick guards such as R. Harmon of TX and SC's Henderson.

SC is heads and shoulders above everyone else IMO and this year's team is better than last year's team that finished 14-2. They also have a more favorable schedule this year. Due to parity the second place team or teams might finish 10-6 (TN has a great chance if Burrell returns and is at 100 percent). They play at Arkansas which is always dangerous (just ask UCONN and Baylor) and at LSU which forces lots of turnovers and SC can get sloppy with the ball early. If they have the SEC regular season wrapped up fairly early they might drop a late game or two at Georgia and/or Texas A&M. I wish I could say TN has a shot but TN plays at SC on senior night.

As far as SC's freshmen class, they have been a disappointment in terms of impact. But C. Ducharme of UCONN who looked unimpressive early has shown that if given consistent starter minutes a highly touted freshman can live up to the hype if given an opportunity. I watched the scrimmages of the one national HS all-star game this past summer. Rivers looked like a woman among girls. Feagin and Hall were also very impressive. So was Johnson in AAU action and in the HS tourney that was on tv. I think the future is very bright for SC's freshmen.
 
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If I wasn't clear above I'm talking about the upcoming SEC season.

One other thought: SC has now proven they can come back from being down against an elite team unlike the 19-20 Gonzaga's men's team which entered last year's national championship team undefeated and didn't know what to do when falling behind.
 
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VolBall09 said:
Better players who want to transfer need to be watching this season very closely. Sure it looks like a great idea to jump on a loaded team.

But don’t you want to PLAY basketball while you’re in college? Lol.

Lots of players likely sitting and thinking really hard about the choices they made. I think we’ll start seeing some really, really talented players choosing schools you might not expect. Schools with young coaches and lots of minutes available.

Arizona is another team, they are so deep at the guard spot. Players like Love wenters some credit from being the main option to breaking the rotation. Paris Clark is going to do a lot of sitting for two seasons she likely doesn’t expect. Barnes has also shown she’ll take anybody and recruit right over good players that have signed with her. Just like Geno and Cori Close.

Kids aren’t stupid. They see that too. That’s why Clark recommitted from UCLA so was surprised to see her choose a coach who is likely to do the same thing to her. If something better comes along Adia will bite.

Something I’m learning to admire about Kellie. She seems most interested in improving and maintaining the roster she has. Not looking for the next best thing every 5 seconds.
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‘So you’re saying Kellie would have turned down Cardosa had she wanted to come to Tennessee? You think Kellie doesn’t recruit players better than what she already has purposely? So if a #1 recruit wants to come to UT she won’t take her because she would be better than what you already have? I don’t believe that. Give these players some credit. They know what they signed up for. Kamilla messed up going to Syracuse because they didn’t develop her. She played enough to get ROY but have you watched her actually play? She needs a lot of development and she will get to play more when SC plays a lesser team.
 
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tchristensen22 said:
‘So you’re saying Kellie would have turned down Cardosa had she wanted to come to Tennessee? You think Kellie doesn’t recruit players better than what she already has purposely? So if a #1 recruit wants to come to UT she won’t take her because she would be better than what you already have? I don’t believe that. Give these players some credit. They know what they signed up for. Kamilla messed up going to Syracuse because they didn’t develop her. She played enough to get ROY but have you watched her actually play? She needs a lot of development and she will get to play more when SC plays a lesser team.
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Nowhere in my post did I mention Cardoso?

I do believe Kellie would have had her in a heartbeat. I also believe she’d be playing 20+ minutes in big games. Kellie spreads the love.

The point of my post was that Kellie seems committed to developing the young women she has on her roster. Both as players and people. She’s committed to retaining players and having a positive culture. We’ve avoided the transfer bug pretty well in an era where it is commonplace. That isn’t by accident.
 
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tchristensen22 said:
‘So you’re saying Kellie would have turned down Cardosa had she wanted to come to Tennessee? You think Kellie doesn’t recruit players better than what she already has purposely? So if a #1 recruit wants to come to UT she won’t take her because she would be better than what you already have? I don’t believe that. Give these players some credit. They know what they signed up for. Kamilla messed up going to Syracuse because they didn’t develop her. She played enough to get ROY but have you watched her actually play? She needs a lot of development and she will get to play more when SC plays a lesser team.
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she messed up going to Syracuse because she chose to hitch her wagon to Q
 
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VolBall09 said:
Nowhere in my post did I mention Cardoso?

I do believe Kellie would have had her in a heartbeat. I also believe she’d be playing 20+ minutes in big games. Kellie spreads the love.

The point of my post was that Kellie seems committed to developing the young women she has on her roster. Both as players and people. She’s committed to retaining players and having a positive culture. We’ve avoided the transfer bug pretty well in an era where it is commonplace. That isn’t by accident.
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I know you didn’t say Cardosa. My point was she would upgrade your team so that would be recruiting over somebody already there. Kamilla will get lots of minutes but gosh she is green. you can tell her whole career has been just her being taller than everybody else.
 
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VolBall09 said:
Anyone else find it strange Darth has been catching heat and suddenly there are two or three “new” posters defending him?

Because I do. Also find it comical.
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It should be obvious to everyone that Darth, PG1 and now their new clones are here only to sabotage Tennessee. They are CT fans, posing. It’s a tactic so vile, so contemptible that it can ONLY be coming from them.

Editing to say their posts also remind me of a couple of old posters from the early days of the SUmmiTT board. Anyone remember elvee and LVJeff? There were a couple of others. They also remind me of ucbart and Philster from the old boneyard. Don’t know if either of them are still around. Ha!
 
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Cardosa has played well in several games but IMO she's not aggressive enough. DPOTY in the ACC is not the same as in the SEC.

Dawn has criticized Boston for being too nice but I think that's changed.

As for uncalled fouls, a good team will always take advantage of what the refs allow. I think most folks would rather the refs allow players to play rather than call touch fouls.

Boneyard posters were so preoccupied with "Boston's questionable shove" on the foul shot that they posted the rule book on that topic and still couldn't agree on what it said or inferred. Hope I don't open a can of worms by bringing it up here.
 
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lvocd said:
It should be obvious to everyone that Darth, PG1 and now their new clones are here only to sabotage Tennessee. They are CT fans, posing. It’s a tactic so vile, so contemptible that it can ONLY be coming from them.

Editing to say their posts also remind me of a couple of old posters from the early days of the SUmmiTT board. Anyone remember elvee and LVJeff? There were a couple of others. They also remind me of ucbart and Philster from the old boneyard. Don’t know if either of them are still around. Ha!
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They aren't UConn fans, because a UConn fan wouldn't bother to watch their games and know as much details about the team. Bart still posts on the BY from time to time. Remember the name Philster, but not the posting style.

I don't remember Darth on the Summitt, but I do remember elvee...who I believe was a woman. Not Jeff either, since he had his own handle here. I think that Darth used to be a LV fan who turned sour with the Holly and then Kellie hirings. I remember arguing with him about Holly, but stopped when it ended up he was right. I just skip over most of his backhanded compliments, but every now and then he posts something interesting or spot on.

He's been doing this too long not to have some history as a fan of the program.
 
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Amb3096 said:
They aren't UConn fans, because a UConn fan wouldn't bother to watch their games and know as much details about the team. Bart still posts on the BY from time to time. Remember the name Philster, but not the posting style.

I don't remember Darth on the Summitt, but I do remember elvee...who I believe was a woman. Not Jeff either, since he had his own handle here. I think that Darth used to be a LV fan who turned sour with the Holly and then Kellie hirings. I remember arguing with him about Holly, but stopped when it ended up he was right. I just skip over most of his backhanded compliments, but every now and then he posts something interesting or spot on.

He's been doing this too long not to have some history as a fan of the program.
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This, or he’s Geno Auriemma and he really IS that pathetic 😉
 
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VolBall09 said:
Anyone else find it strange Darth has been catching heat and suddenly there are two or three “new” posters defending him?

Because I do. Also find it comical.
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If you are referencing me as being one of those you are absolutely wrong on both counts......I am an old head on this site and me criticizing anyone calling out a poster for labelling them a negavol is not a defense of anyone....it is merely calling it what it is, an attack with name calling which is uncalled for.
 
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