'14 TN F Leron Black

He may suck in your opinion, but he dominates Cuonzo Martin, which is a fact.

If I were you I would ask myself why Martin can't seem to win a game against a coach that "sucks" like Pastner does.

Why can't Billy Donovan beat a coach that sucks so bad he can't be a coach who sucks?
 
Any updates on Black? I can't be asked to look through pages of arguments.

I'll bring you up to date...

He cut his list to four schools...Baylor, Illinois, Indiana, Tennessee.

He's a prima donna who has top-40 talent, and a top-10 mindset.

He's obviously headed to Illinois.

Memphis doesn't want him now, but a year ago he was the second coming of Penny Hardaway.

Skal Labissiere is Memphis' top target for 2015...until he's not, amd then they never wanted him.

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Are you trying to get partially credit for a loss because it came after 2 OTs?

The fact of the matter is Pastner beats Martin in Knoxville, in Memphis and on a neutral court. If you guys want to play in China, he'll beat Martin. If you want to play on the moon, he'll beat Martin.

I suggest that you all get over your fascination with Pastner and Memphis and focus on Martin and the Vols this season, because it's make or break for Cuonzo. You guys probably have more threads on your board mentioning Memphis basketball than we do on MTO.[/QUOTE]

First valid point he has made in weeks fellas. Can we stop feedin now?
 
Also, if people would just ignore certain posters instead of feeling the need to respond and then get fired up when he's obviously just trying to get a rise out of you, there wouldn't be 3 page arguments in player threads for people to sift through. :hi:
 
To save everyone time, I'll just let you all know how this ends:

Me: Pastner is undefeated against Martin.

You guys: But Pastner can't beat a team that is ranked both in the AP and Coaches top 25 at the same time.

Me: Who cares, Pastner has beaten Martin everytime they've played.

You guys: Well, Martin beats Donovan.

Me. Great, that has no bearing on the Pastner-Cuonzo series.

You guys: Pastner underachieves.

Me: Great, that has no bearing on the Pastner=Counzo series.

and so on.
 
To save everyone time, I'll just let you all know how this ends:

Me: Pastner is undefeated against Martin.

You guys: But Pastner can't beat a team that is ranked both in the AP and Coaches top 25 at the same time.

Me: Who cares, Pastner has beaten Martin everytime they've played.

You guys: Well, Martin beats Donovan.

Me. Great, that has no bearing on the Pastner-Cuonzo series.

You guys: Pastner underachieves.

Me: Great, that has no bearing on the Pastner=Counzo series.

and so on.

Ahh...if they only gave trophies for that.
 
Ok...

Pastner owns Martin
Martin owns Donovan

Which is more impressive, lets think about that for a minute.

Based on the butt whipping the Vols put on the Cats Martin owns a piece of Cal so much that I believe he made sure his kitties didn't have to come to Ktown this season.
 
Lets throw another West Tn name out there - Jaylen Fisher pg 2016. Let the recruiting wars began because both Memphis and UT want him.
 
Present an argument then...years is multiple, so it could be as few as 2 years. When was the last Tennessee team that was ranked in the preseason top 25?

Ask Kentucky fans about the accuracy of last season preseason rankings.

Also i see next years team facing major hurdles with the lack of interior players on the roster if Stokes goes pro.
 
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Ask Kentucky fans about the accuracy of last season preseason rankings.

Also i see next years team facing major hurdles with the lack of interior players on the roster if Stokes goes pro.

What?

What're you talking about!

I thought we were discussing this coming year, is stokes leaving for Europe or something?

As for preseason rankings at this point that's all we have to go off of...however are you suggesting this years team will finish no better than the last 2 years teams coached by Martin?
 
but but but..... you can't have it both ways.

What are you talking about right now? You're making ZERO sense?

I said this years team will be the best Tennessee team over the last 2 years...you thought that was funny. You then proceeded to talk about the following years season and whether or not it will include Stokes, which has no relevancy what so ever on the current topic.
 
Yes compared to last years bubble team, which is quite comical imo

I'm all for Memphis playing UT in hoops in the future after the Vols have honored the football contract.
 
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Black......you can read the history here. I had said that I basically wasn't sold on him a while back. On him being a Memphis kid. His folks are from the midwest and I've said all along that I didn't expect him to stay in Memphis.

Skal........I'd love to have him stay 'home'. Do I expect him to............No. I expect him to go to Kentucky. JMO.

BTO, we were talking about Memphis' focus for '14. Strange, but it appears to be Cinmeon Bowers, the JUCO kid and Alexander of course.
 

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