'15 TN DE Dylan Jackson (former UT commit)

[TMatthews19]

In an interview Dylan said he was open to playing wherever the coaches needed him. If momma is upset, Dylan doesn't seem to be.

 

[dyllisvol42]

In an interview Dylan said he was open to playing wherever the coaches needed him. If momma is upset, Dylan doesn't seem to be.

I just heard a interview the other day and he said he wants to play defensive end. Can't remember where I heard the interview maybe on josh and will show. I think this will be a lot like the Robertson situation. Start off at practice playing d then a few practices in he will move to offense.

 

[dyllisvol42]

I just heard a interview the other day and he said he wants to play defensive end. Can't remember where I heard the interview maybe on josh and will show. I think this will be a lot like the Robertson situation. Start off at practice playing d then a few practices in he will move to offense.

I mean we talk like he has the frame to be a offensive tackle, I think if he puts on some weight he could be a really good dt.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Hope it's not true, but I believe this 100%.

I did not think he wanted any part of playing OL. Had felt if he were forced into it, he could very well decide to go elsewhere. If he does, can't say I blame him at all. Having never played OL, it's a huge risk IMO to try and convert him and see if it works out. If it doesn't, the fans would just have him on the "cut them loose" list 2-3 years from now. Dylan looks to be a quality DE option and a lot of schools would let him stick there. Probably in his best interest to look at those options IF UT's staff intends to convert him to OL.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I just heard a interview the other day and he said he wants to play defensive end. Can't remember where I heard the interview maybe on josh and will show. I think this will be a lot like the Robertson situation. Start off at practice playing d then a few practices in he will move to offense.

The big difference IMO is that Robertson actually played OL & DL in HS. OL was not totally new to him. I don't think Jackson has played any OL at Maryville.

 

[VolGee4]

There just doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to our offensive identity. Against OU and UGA we were successful running the delayed draw to Hurd, yet we didn't attempt it one time today. We didn't attempt hardly anything downfield between the 20s to keep the DBs honest until we had to on the last drive.

I do agree the line play is a legitimate excuse and a major hamstring right now though. 6 sacks and no run blocking make it difficult to succeed.

That's the thing, Chris. That deep skinny post on the last play was unwarranted. I don't mind it earlier in the game, but we seem to call plays at the wrong time. We had over a minute left at the 50 with 2 time outs- plenty of time. Just move the ball down the field. You obviously want to get your freshman kicker a good shot, but I would have taken a 45 yard attempt, even yesterday.

I thought the short passing game was fine other than not using the middle of the field. I also don't understand a senior Worley not seeing a corner blitz. That is easy to attack. 2nd and 5 with seconds left in the 3rd quarter and we call a 5-7 step drop. As much as I like uptempo, I was saying just to let the clock run out. We could have run time off and switched fields and started 2 down in the 4th. Just frustrating to watch.

 

[85Destiny]

That's the thing, Chris. That deep skinny post on the last play was unwarranted. I don't mind it earlier in the game, but we seem to call plays at the wrong time. We had over a minute left at the 50 with 2 time outs- plenty of time. Just move the ball down the field. You obviously want to get your freshman kicker a good shot, but I would have taken a 45 yard attempt, even yesterday.

I thought the short passing game was fine other than not using the middle of the field. I also don't understand a senior Worley not seeing a corner blitz. That is easy to attack. 2nd and 5 with seconds left in the 3rd quarter and we call a 5-7 step drop. As much as I like uptempo, I was saying just to let the clock run out. We could have run time off and switched fields and started 2 down in the 4th. Just frustrating to watch.

The turning point of the game. Why not milk the clock and get conservative?

 

[therickbol]

The big difference IMO is that Robertson actually played OL & DL in HS. OL was not totally new to him. I don't think Jackson has played any OL at Maryville.

Playing OL in high school does very little to prepare a kid to play college level OL. They learn almost everything about playing OL from their college OL coach. If a kid is athletic and smart he will not be that far behind. You are grossly overstating the situation.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Playing OL in high school does very little to prepare a kid to play college level OL. They learn almost everything about playing OL from their college OL coach. If a kid is athletic and smart he will not be that far behind. You are grossly overstating the situation.

Maybe I am. It just looks to me as though had he played some OL in HS, maybe he would be a little more open to the idea. It does not look like he wants any part of it and I can't say I blame him.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Honestly, who gives a damn what Mama Jackson thinks? If this staff wants Jackson as an OL, then he's an OL. If he doesn't like that, he's free to go somewhere that promises him something else. If he's as good as some of you are saying, he can make a boatload of cash as a LT in the NFL. If Mama Jackson doesn't like that, she's off her rocker.

And no, I'm not trying to insult anyone, just being brutally honest. A recruit (or his parents) shouldn't try to hold the coaching staff ransom. The coaching staff's first priority should always be the team. If it's not best for the team, don't do it.

Seems like the coaches want to be upfront with him. I like it. This helps him make a more informed decision.

 

[BigOrangeD]

In an interview Dylan said he was open to playing wherever the coaches needed him. If momma is upset, Dylan doesn't seem to be.

This.

 

[BigOrangeD]

The turning point of the game. Why not milk the clock and get conservative?

Coach Matthews said we should have.

 

[VAVolsFan2009]

Just like Robertson, we need each and every recruit to come in with the attitude that they will what ever it takes to help "their" team. "Whatever the teams needs, I'm ready to do what it takes." Those are the character players we want becoming Vols. The 2015 class needs to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. It would be sad, but the staff may need to move on to another recruit if he is not all Vol. Until I hear it definitively from his mouth, I assume he is all Vol and will do everything he can to help the team be successful. Let's hope that the OT problem can be fixed without having to convert Jackson.

 

[Volunteer_Kirby]

I just heard a interview the other day and he said he wants to play defensive end. Can't remember where I heard the interview maybe on josh and will show. I think this will be a lot like the Robertson situation. Start off at practice playing d then a few practices in he will move to offense.

Robertson is a bit different. I thought a majority of us were under the impression that he was intended for the OL? Everyone knows its a fact that champion wrasslers = great OL. Also I think the reason why he was offered was because of his versatility more than anything, much like Chance Hall this year. His ability to disrupt at DT at the next level was maybe a little suspect but his athleticism, strength, and hands were proven. Plus the kid clearly knows leverage and how to use it to his advantage. Perfect fit for OL and the coaching staff planned it that way, IMO.

 

[cncchris33]

That's the thing, Chris. That deep skinny post on the last play was unwarranted. I don't mind it earlier in the game, but we seem to call plays at the wrong time. We had over a minute left at the 50 with 2 time outs- plenty of time. Just move the ball down the field. You obviously want to get your freshman kicker a good shot, but I would have taken a 45 yard attempt, even yesterday.

I thought the short passing game was fine other than not using the middle of the field. I also don't understand a senior Worley not seeing a corner blitz. That is easy to attack. 2nd and 5 with seconds left in the 3rd quarter and we call a 5-7 step drop. As much as I like uptempo, I was saying just to let the clock run out. We could have run time off and switched fields and started 2 down in the 4th. Just frustrating to watch.

I agree on the play call that lead to the INT. That was on 1st down too I believe. All we needed was to get in FG range. We still had TOs too. Bad decision. To be fair to the play call, Howard wasn't open and Worley should have thrown it away or looked to another option. Bad play call, but your SR QB has to realize what a bad decision it is to attempt that throw.

 

[Vols4us]

I agree on the play call that lead to the INT. That was on 1st down too I believe. All we needed was to get in FG range. We still had TOs too. Bad decision. To be fair to the play call, Howard wasn't open and Worley should have thrown it away or looked to another option. Bad play call, but your SR QB has to realize what a bad decision it is to attempt that throw.

Your senior QB has been getting the crap beat out of him by major league D's for 3 weeks in a row. Not all of his decisions are going to be perfect. He did not know North was going to get his feet tangled up with the d-back and fall. He probably thought he was giving a talented receiver the opportunity to make a play.

 

[Volnerd]

Your senior QB has been getting the crap beat out of him by major league D's for 3 weeks in a row. Not all of his decisions are going to be perfect. He did not know North was going to get his feet tangled up with the d-back and fall. He probably thought he was giving a talented receiver the opportunity to make a play.

The ball barely made it to the goal line. That is on Worley for trying to throw off his back foot.

 

[cncchris33]

Your senior QB has been getting the crap beat out of him by major league D's for 3 weeks in a row. Not all of his decisions are going to be perfect. He did not know North was going to get his feet tangled up with the d-back and fall. He probably thought he was giving a talented receiver the opportunity to make a play.

We are talking about two completely different plays, but since you brought it up, a throw off of your back foot falling away to a WR who was well-covered is ill-advised...for any QB in just about any situation. North falling down really didn't affect the outcome of the play, except maybe he becomes a defender and knocks the ball away from Hargreaves. That ball was thrown up for grabs and UFs best DB was in better position than North to field an underthrown ball. North only had a chance at making that catch if the ball is thrown deep into the EZ where only he could catch it. Sometimes it's best to take a sack and live to fight another day, but Worley isn't infallible, and I agree, he was trying to make a play.

Having said all that, I am in no way discounting the fact that Worley has been beaten to death for three consecutive weeks. He has been a warrior in there, but that doesn't absolve him of all responsibility. On the play I was actually referring to in my original post (his last INT), I believe he had a clean pocket, little pressure, and just made a bad decision on 1st down to throw to a well-covered Pig Howard. Again, probably trying to make a play (when are you not?), but ill-advised, especially on 1st down.

 

[keckjm]

I agree on the play call that lead to the INT. That was on 1st down too I believe. All we needed was to get in FG range. We still had TOs too. Bad decision. To be fair to the play call, Howard wasn't open and Worley should have thrown it away or looked to another option. Bad play call, but your SR QB has to realize what a bad decision it is to attempt that throw.

The only play that I was very upset about was the draw play on the final drive. Usually, I wouldn't mind that call as FL was playing not to give up a huge play in the passing game, but our o-line couldnt get pushes on FL'a d-line all game, why would that change on the final drive? FL stuffed that play from the beginning, and it killed a lot of needed time off the clock. In those situations you have to go to a 3-15 yard passing game. You have to get little chucks at a time. Unfourtantly, FL locked down our WRs all game and contained the middle of the field. We simple couldn't get the ball consistently to guys in the middle of the field. We have some playmakers, but FL illustrated why CBJ continues to recruit RBs, WRs, and athletes for our offense. We need more playmakers, especially at RB. We really have to find a small, elusive RB to compliment Hurd's power. Plus, when teams blitz you can HB screen to those small backs and they are hard to bring down because the defensive secondary can't see them over the blitz at first. My hope is that Scott plays soon. He will add a new dimension to this offense that we desperately need.

 

[WebbCobb]

The only play that I was very upset about was the draw play on the final drive. Usually, I wouldn't mind that call as FL was playing not to give up a huge play in the passing game, but our o-line couldnt get pushes on FL'a d-line all game, why would that change on the final drive? FL stuffed that play from the beginning, and it killed a lot of needed time off the clock. In those situations you have to go to a 3-15 yard passing game. You have to get little chucks at a time. Unfourtantly, FL locked down our WRs all game and contained the middle of the field. We simple couldn't get the ball consistently to guys in the middle of the field. We have some playmakers, but FL illustrated why CBJ continues to recruit RBs, WRs, and athletes for our offense. We need more playmakers, especially at RB. We really have to find a small, elusive RB to compliment Hurd's power. Plus, when teams blitz you can HB screen to those small backs and they are hard to bring down because the defensive secondary can't see them over the blitz at first. My hope is that Scott plays soon. He will add a new dimension to this offense that we desperately need.

Not really disagreeing with you but IMO a better O-line would solve most problems. It would draw DBs up to help with the run game and allow the receivers additional time to get open.

 

[keckjm]

Not really disagreeing with you but IMO a better O-line would solve most problems. It would draw DBs up to help with the run game and allow the receivers additional time to get open.

Well of course a better o-line is going to help. The o-line is the entire reason we keep losing games. It's not bad play calling. Our play calling is directly affected by our piss poor o-line. Im not sure Mahoney is the right guy for the job either, but I can promise you Mike Baj. isn't soley to blame for our lack of offense.

 

[AV_12]

Your senior QB has been getting the crap beat out of him by major league D's for 3 weeks in a row. Not all of his decisions are going to be perfect. He did not know North was going to get his feet tangled up with the d-back and fall. He probably thought he was giving a talented receiver the opportunity to make a play.

Lol not sure if serious



That was an awful decision by a senior QB...

 

[cncchris33]

The only play that I was very upset about was the draw play on the final drive. Usually, I wouldn't mind that call as FL was playing not to give up a huge play in the passing game, but our o-line couldnt get pushes on FL'a d-line all game, why would that change on the final drive? FL stuffed that play from the beginning, and it killed a lot of needed time off the clock. In those situations you have to go to a 3-15 yard passing game. You have to get little chucks at a time. Unfourtantly, FL locked down our WRs all game and contained the middle of the field. We simple couldn't get the ball consistently to guys in the middle of the field. We have some playmakers, but FL illustrated why CBJ continues to recruit RBs, WRs, and athletes for our offense. We need more playmakers, especially at RB. We really have to find a small, elusive RB to compliment Hurd's power. Plus, when teams blitz you can HB screen to those small backs and they are hard to bring down because the defensive secondary can't see them over the blitz at first. My hope is that Scott plays soon. He will add a new dimension to this offense that we desperately need.

I was upset that we never used the delayed draw against the aggresive UF defense that worked so well vs OU and UGA. Some dump-off screens to the RBs would have been effective too, like you said. To me, when your line can't block, it seems like you should use plays like that to mask that weakness.

You mentioned killing some valuable time on the draw we attempted on the last drive. I think the plan (before the INT) was to make that drive the final drive of the game, and leave UF with no chance of gettibg the ball back. With a minute+ on the clock and 2 TOs, time wasn't an issue if that was indeed the strategy. It seems as if the plan was to end the game with that drive, come hell or high water. That makes the decision to throw it 30 yds on 1st down to a well-covered WR even more unexplainable. Time only became an issue when we turned it over on the pick. Bad play call and poor decision to attempt that throw.

Of course, I say all that with the benefit of hindsight, and it never should have come to a final drive. We should have beat that team by 14 points.

 

[keckjm]

I was upset that we never used the delayed draw against the aggresive UF defense that worked so well vs OU and UGA. Some dump-off screens to the RBs would have been effective too, like you said. To me, when your line can't block, it seems like you should use plays like that to mask that weakness.

You mentioned killing some valuable time on the draw we attempted on the last drive. I think the plan (before the INT) was to make that drive the final drive of the game, and leave UF with no chance of gettibg the ball back. With a minute+ on the clock and 2 TOs, time wasn't an issue if that was indeed the strategy. It seems as if the plan was to end the game with that drive, come hell or high water. That makes the decision to throw it 30 yds on 1st down to a well-covered WR even more unexplainable. Time only became an issue when we turned it over on the pick. Bad play call and poor decision to attempt that throw.

Of course, I say all that with the benefit of hindsight, and it never should have come to a final drive. We should have beat that team by 14 points.

Atleast you understand football and what we are trying to do. The delayed release is how we run our offense. It didn't work against FL because they collapsed our o-line almost every play up the middle. People keep saying it's taking to long for the plays to develop, but they fail to understand that this is by design. When you can't block your man 1 on 1 on the outside then you have to allow the DEs to collapse the pocket and when that happens it should open a huge hole up when the delayed release occurs. The key is to keep the DE on the outside shoulder of the T, but Fowler was getting inside on our T and blowing plays up before they could develop.

 

[walkenvol]

Your senior QB has been getting the crap beat out of him by major league D's for 3 weeks in a row. Not all of his decisions are going to be perfect. He did not know North was going to get his feet tangled up with the d-back and fall. He probably thought he was giving a talented receiver the opportunity to make a play.

Although I don't like to discuss the game in a recruits thread, I still wish I could give this more than one like!

Worley had his best receiver in man coverage with position on the the DB. Like usual, the sieve of an OL has the DL barreling down on Worley. Like he has all year, Worley is forced to make a throw under duress if UT is to have any offense at all. When Worley releases the ball, North has position. Worley throws the ball and North gets tripped by the DB who then makes a great play on the ball since North is now out of the way. Without the trip no way the DB makes the interception.

My real question was why no interference call?