'18 FL WR Jacob Copeland (Florida signee)

[Big Gucci Sosa]

From Danny Parker, yes?

yes

 

[Orange defense]

Was being facetious. Uncle Lou is a typical UGA fan though. I remember them sitting behind me at various neyland games.

Yea, I know...he has a great family, and he is very loyal to the dawgs. I love watching him on video. I hate it when he pounces on other teams, especially us though. He is cool...

 

[berryvol]

When is Copeland announcing? GBO!

30 minutes

 

[HialeahGator]

Haha. Bias much? You have no clue what you have at QB. And your DL has no depth imo.

Disagree on the DL part. Plenty of depth for move to 3-4. 3 True NT and nice pieces at DE. LB is where the depth problem comes into play.

 

[jasonvol18]

Da'Rick Rogers - 5*
Justin Hunter - 4*
Jacques Smith - 4*
Raijon Neal - 4*
Dave Clark - 4*
Eddrick Loften - 4*
James Stone - 4*

All 4* or higher that committed in the 2 weeks Dooley had to recruit.

Thus far, in about 2 months, Pruitt has pulled 6 4* guys. Dooley also didn't lose a 5* guy from Knoxville.

Pruitt will be the better coach. But recruiting has not lived up to my expectations. Has it met yours?

Pruitt didn't lose Mays that damage was done before he was hired. And how many of those guys actually did anything at TN? James Stone, Hunter was a combo of good, bad and injury prone, Rogers I don't even have to mention, Neal was decent, Loften and Clark..again no need to mention them. Smith was decent. Only Stone was consistent.Actually JP has gotten 8 guy's who are a 4* on atleast one site and will be 9 with Gooden. Peterson, Norwood,J.Johnson,Taylor,Allen,Anderson,Carvin and Banks all committed to JP. Not bad for only a few months on the job and the added disadvantage of the early signing period. So advantage Pruitt on this debate.

 

[Mightyvol]

Hate to agree, but this is 100% spot on imo. Got out to a great start in December for the early signing period....I assumed they’d gain great momentum and finish top 12-15 with some big gets.....instead we’re crawling to the finish line and reaching left and right for some lowly rated players with athletic potential. Perhaps I shouldn’t have, but I really expected a much, much stronger finish.

CJP is fighting an image problem UT has that is bigger than football. Couple the coaching search dumpster fire with an 0-8 SEC record and it's the perfect recipe for negative recruiting. CJP and the other coaches will prove their worth over the next few years.

 

[JPL]

I expected the month of January to be more productive, honestly. Pruitt and staff did a great job pulling some JuCo prospects in December, and I thought, with the entire month of January, he would be a closer and a finisher. This recruiting class did not finish well. It felt more like we were trying to hold on for dear life with the few guys we had pulled, like Peterson and Young.

I expected him to be able to hold onto Jordan Young.
I expected him to attract more HS talent on defense. Peterson is a HUGE get, but outside of him, felt like we pretty much struck out on defense in January.

Honest question: did this staff and recruiting class meet or surpass your expectations?

and that is obvious. Pruitt is feeling the same, of course he won't say it publicly & he shouldn't.

Part of the problem is due to the notable success Pruitt had during the early signing period, the expectations were he would do the same or similar on NSD (given that he had that much more time vs. the early signing period), unfortunately the opposite unfolded.

GO VOLS!!!

Note: If we (& I don't think we will) signed Copeland & ITS this class would definitely meet expectations. For me, exceeding expectations would have been the aforementioned two coupled with Quay Walker, Eddie Smith & keeping Jordan Young.

It's always difficult to sugarcoat a disappointment. I'm done commenting on mine. Time to focus on the ones we did get today.

 

[Vols410]

Da'Rick Rogers - 5*
Justin Hunter - 4*
Jacques Smith - 4*
Raijon Neal - 4*
Dave Clark - 4*
Eddrick Loften - 4*
James Stone - 4*

All 4* or higher that committed in the 2 weeks Dooley had to recruit.

Thus far, in about 2 months, Pruitt has pulled 6 4* guys. Dooley also didn't lose a 5* guy from Knoxville.

Pruitt will be the better coach. But recruiting has not lived up to my expectations. Has it met yours?

If the first class is all it takes to demonstrate a coach's effectiveness at recruiting, are we going to say that Dooley is a good recruiter? Too early to judge Pruitt in this regard; we'll really get a good evaluation of his recruiting ability in the next class.

 

[KBVol]

CJP is fighting an image problem UT has that is bigger than football. Couple the coaching search dumpster fire with an 0-8 SEC record and it's the perfect recipe for negative recruiting. CJP and the other coaches will prove their worth over the next few years.

Aware of and agree with all this. Just pointing out that he got out of the gate very well back in December, but lost momentum and struggled mightily trying to finish off this class the last month. We can point out the reasons, most of which are likely legit. But today is far from a banner day in the annals of Vol football recruiting, no matter how you look at it.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Simonton is on WNML and said we are trending 2nd or 3rd

 

[VFL92]

If the first class is all it takes to demonstrate a coach's effectiveness at recruiting, are we going to say that Dooley is a good recruiter? Too early to judge Pruitt in this regard; we'll really get a good evaluation of his recruiting ability in the next class.

Oh, you're absolutely right. This doesn't make Dooley a better recruiter than Pruitt, as a whole. But his first class was more impressive, with less time to work with.

I think Pruitt will be the man down the road. But so far, has he met your expectations?

 

[Freak]

Simonton says Copeland will stay home.

 

[jakez4ut]

i think some of you are confusing "getting your hopes up" with "expectations".

i definitely got my hopes up on some of these guys. did i expect any of them a month ago? no. there's a difference in saying you have a legit shot at signing some of these guys, which we did, to saying "i expect them to sign, and if they don't, someone failed".

situationally speaking, it's still pretty easy to negative recruit TN....from Thanksgiving weekend thru the end of the search, AD switch, and finishing a 4-8 season, it takes more than the new coach being on the job for 8 weeks to make a great class.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Da'Rick Rogers - 5*
Justin Hunter - 4*
Jacques Smith - 4*
Raijon Neal - 4*
Dave Clark - 4*
Eddrick Loften - 4*
James Stone - 4*

All 4* or higher that committed in the 2 weeks Dooley had to recruit.

Thus far, in about 2 months, Pruitt has pulled 6 4* guys. Dooley also didn't lose a 5* guy from Knoxville.

Pruitt will be the better coach. But recruiting has not lived up to my expectations. Has it met yours?

Dooley followed a 7-6 season which included blowout wins over Georgia and South Carolina... and a close loss at Alabama. We are much more vulnerable to negative recruiting right now.

 

[New-Vols-Fan]

Callahan on Basilio just hinted that Copeland most likely will land at Florida or Alabama.

 

[bignewt]

Oh, you're absolutely right. This doesn't make Dooley a better recruiter than Pruitt, as a whole. But his first class was more impressive, with less time to work with.

I think Pruitt will be the man down the road. But so far, has he met your expectations?

expectations for what? Putting a staff together? Yes. Recruiting? Come find me next February.

 

[VOLED]

Simonton says Copeland will stay home.

why not, everybody else has

 

[utvolpj]

Oh, you're absolutely right. This doesn't make Dooley a better recruiter than Pruitt, as a whole. But his first class was more impressive, with less time to work with.

Are you seriously going to continue to post this idiocy? A normal person would feel completely embarrassed by now

 

[BruinVol]

Hoping for Bama here

We are 3rd

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Comparing Dooleys first class and Pruitt’s is apples to oranges. Dooley may have followed a rough situation in Kiffin leaving but Pruitt is following a laughing stock of a situation and 10+ years of incompetence. UT at least had the resemblance of a top program when Dooley came in, Pruitt has to rebuild that image. He has more factors going against him then Dooley did, IMO.

Edit: Dooley also didn’t have to deal with an early signing period.

 

[Vols410]

Oh, you're absolutely right. This doesn't make Dooley a better recruiter than Pruitt, as a whole. But his first class was more impressive, with less time to work with.

I think Pruitt will be the man down the road. But so far, has he met your expectations?

I'd say no, but if that's the case is the problem with Pruitt or with our expectations?

This class (according to 247) is far and away better than Butch's first class, and recruiting certainly wasn't an issue with CBJ. Also, Pruitt had to deal with the early signing period.

A lot of fans here like to point at Pruitt striking out on the 5-stars and settling for 3-stars, where they wanted him to go out and get 4s. Fact is, all the 4-stars and high 3-stars were gone in December, so Pruitt spent his time looking for the best of what was left, and diamond in the rough type prospects. We've yet to see how that works, but given the timing of the hire, it's not like he had another option.

 

[Sleegro]

i think some of you are confusing "getting your hopes up" with "expectations".

i definitely got my hopes up on some of these guys. did i expect any of them a month ago? no. there's a difference in saying you have a legit shot at signing some of these guys, which we did, to saying "i expect them to sign, and if they don't, someone failed".

situationally speaking, it's still pretty easy to negative recruit TN....from Thanksgiving weekend thru the end of the search, AD switch, and finishing a 4-8 season, it takes more than the new coach being on the job for 8 weeks to make a great class.

This is so very true.

 

[JPL]

Aware of and agree with all this. Just pointing out that he got out of the gate very well back in December, but lost momentum and struggled mightily trying to finish off this class the last month. We can point out the reasons, most of which are likely legit. But today is far from a banner day in the annals of Vol football recruiting, no matter how you look at it.

Like you said there many reasons we can point to, many legit.

GO VOLS!!!

 

[SLICKYINC]

Oh, you're absolutely right. This doesn't make Dooley a better recruiter than Pruitt, as a whole. But his first class was more impressive, with less time to work with.

I think Pruitt will be the man down the road. But so far, has he met your expectations?

.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I'd say no, but if that's the case is the problem with Pruitt or with our expectations?

This class (according to 247) is far and away better than Butch's first class, and recruiting certainly wasn't an issue with CBJ. Also, Pruitt had to deal with the early signing period.

A lot of fans here like to point at Pruitt striking out on the 5-stars and settling for 3-stars, where they wanted him to go out and get 4s. Fact is, all the 4-stars and high 3-stars were gone in December, so Pruitt spent his time looking for the best of what was left, and diamond in the rough type prospects. We've yet to see how that works, but given the timing of the hire, it's not like he had another option.

And this is also an excellent point.