19 Year Old Dies After Denial From Transplant List For Trace THC

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Vol8188 said:
I consider it harmless.
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So you don't think long use marijuana smoking can cause health issues in your lungs? Anything you inhale into your lungs is not harmless.

I'm not against it, quite the opposite as I am a daily user. But I also know that it can be cause health problems later in life, especially if I keep smoking.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What difference does that make? That only makes Tylenol worse. It kills people who are simply attempting to eliminate their pain. Marijuana kills no one, even those trying to get high
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I think it makes Tylenol better. It's eliminating people from the gene pool who either can't read or can't follow simple instructions. Either way they were most likely net drains on the system.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
So you don't think long use marijuana smoking can cause health issues in your lungs? Anything you inhale into your lungs is not harmless.

I'm not against it, quite the opposite as I am a daily user. But I also know that it can be cause health problems later in life, especially if I keep smoking.
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That's not the only way to use it
 
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I will use every once in a while unless i need a lung and i should be fine. I think that is the take away.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Clogging up those blood vessels will cause the heart to work harder and fail sooner. Shouldn't priority be given to those with the cleanest arteries?

Does THC cause lung failure?
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How many other byproducts of combustion are in marijuana smoke? Are any of tbem shown by the State of Californication to cause or be thought to might cause cancer?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Most of the literature I saw said the opposite because you just copied an pasted an entire bibliography and assumed it meet your agenda.
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Actually, if you will back off and read my post rather than take a moronically-defensive stance against science, you will see that I posted the summary of the known effects of cannabis use. My "agenda" is to educate, as many people are ignorant to the truth.

Rather than cherry pick articles damning THC, the bib contains research that collectively gives us understanding. ONCE AGAIN: there are no conclusive long-term health conditions known to be caused by MJ use, aside from the few I noted.

On the schizophrenia/mental illness front: the evidence is convincing and not surprising. Habitual intoxication using any neuroactive chemical would be expected to cause dependency and risk alteration of the psyche.

If you don't think that acute intoxication causes memory impairment, slowed motor response, and reduced cognitive functioning, then you have either a) never been around anyone high, or b) become afflicted by mental illness (perhaps by chronic cannabis use).
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Actually, if you will back off and read my post rather than take a moronically-defensive stance against science, you will see that I posted the summary of the known effects of cannabis use. My "agenda" is to educate, as many people are ignorant to the truth.

Rather than cherry pick articles damning THC, the bib contains research that collectively gives us understanding. ONCE AGAIN: there are no conclusive long-term health conditions known to be caused by MJ use, aside from the few I noted.

On the schizophrenia/mental illness front: the evidence is convincing and not surprising. Habitual intoxication using any neuroactive chemical would be expected to cause dependency and risk alteration of the psyche.

If you don't think that acute intoxication causes memory impairment, slowed motor response, and reduced cognitive functioning, then you have either a) never been around anyone high, or b) become afflicted by mental illness (perhaps by chronic cannabis use).
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Do you sky dive off that horse you are on?
 
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Vol8188 said:
The contract banned "illicit drugs", therefore the legality of marijuana is relevant. He was denied a transplant because of the legality of marijuana
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There was no frickin' "contract" because he needed a transplant.

Again the timeline...

1. Healthy boy is home for Thanksgiving.

2. Healthy boy meets up with an old friend(s?) and smoke some dope.

3.Boy gets serious pneumonia that destroys a significant portion of his lung function.
It is not known if what caused the pneumonia was marijuana related or not.

a) He could have simply been unlucky enough to have contracted an exceptionally virulent strain of pneumonia.

b) He may have contracted pneumonia from mold on the marijuana.

c) He may have contracted chemical induced pneumonia from agricultural chemicals on the pot.

We simply are not told one way or another.

However, he did not have a "contract" to get a transplant.

He was told he could not be placed on the list based on the transplant organization criteria to which the hospital subscribes.

I have posted above a link to transplant candidate criteria.

I also posted a link to an article discussing the possible positive affects of cannibis during the transplant acceptance and process California is discussing.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
There was no frickin' "contract" because he needed a transplant.

Again the timeline...

1. Healthy boy is home for Thanksgiving.

2. Healthy boy meets up with an old friend(s?) and smoke some dope.

3.Boy gets serious pneumonia that destroys a significant portion of his lung function.
It is not known if what caused the pneumonia was marijuana related or not.

a) He could have simply been unlucky enough to have contracted an exceptionally virulent strain of pneumonia.

b) He may have contracted pneumonia from mold on the marijuana.

c) He may have contracted chemical induced pneumonia from agricultural chemicals on the pot.

We simply are not told one way or another.

However, he did not have a "contract" to get a transplant.

He was told he could not be placed on the list based on the transplant organization criteria to which the hospital subscribes.

I have posted above a link to transplant candidate criteria.

I also posted a link to an article discussing the possible positive affects of cannibis during the transplant acceptance and process California is discussing.
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So what's the problem? He didn't meet criteria set by the transplant team.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Actually, if you will back off and read my post rather than take a moronically-defensive stance against science, you will see that I posted the summary of the known effects of cannabis use. My "agenda" is to educate, as many people are ignorant to the truth.

Rather than cherry pick articles damning THC, the bib contains research that collectively gives us understanding. ONCE AGAIN: there are no conclusive long-term health conditions known to be caused by MJ use, aside from the few I noted.

On the schizophrenia/mental illness front: the evidence is convincing and not surprising. Habitual intoxication using any neuroactive chemical would be expected to cause dependency and risk alteration of the psyche.

If you don't think that acute intoxication causes memory impairment, slowed motor response, and reduced cognitive functioning, then you have either a) never been around anyone high, or b) become afflicted by mental illness (perhaps by chronic cannabis use).
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All the evidence I've seen for psychological disorders is them taking people who have smoked marijuana and surverying them, then claiming x percent have whatever.

That's far from conclusive in any way. Like I said, these people could very well be self medicating due to their mental disorders. Instead of their mental disorders being caused by marijuana.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I think it makes Tylenol better. It's eliminating people from the gene pool who either can't read or can't follow simple instructions. Either way they were most likely net drains on the system.
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Right. Someone who takes one or two more Tylenol tablets than recommended, deserves death.

You're a special person.
 
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You guys are all stupid; I just smoked some and I can tell you....um...wait what was I saying?

Oh yeah, go to hell Alabama!
 
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bigdaddy said:
You sign the contract, you test negative, you are told not to smoke or use pot, you smoke pot after that on thanksgiving and test positive after you have signed a contract saying you wouldn't do that, you
Are delisted.
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Why are you certain he signed the contract prior to thanksgiving
 
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