2015 College World Series

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#156
Vandy is a huge fan of virginia at the moment. Florida is saving Puk and now Virginia is burning their closer.

I know who I am pulling for
 
#158
#158
I've got no complaints. Just came up short.

Great, but weird game. Never seen so many hard hit balls, for both teams, end up as outs.

Score could have been 12-11.
 
#160
#160
Feel for the Gators...doubt the real deal will be any better than that one. Great game, both teams.
 
#161
#161
Ok I can be excited about supporting a team led by a man that has a statue in Omaha.
Seems like destiny he hoist the national championship trophy to me!
 
#162
#162
Go Hoos!

Ain't gonna happen, but a reverse jinx may work.

Really don't like that Vanderbilt team.
 
#164
#164
I know there are lot of Vanderbilt and Corbin haters here but at least watch the SEC Network segment on Phil Pfeiffer's addiction issues.
 
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#165
I guess Kevin O'Sullivan will have to endure a lot of second guessing for not using Puk in an elimination game. UVA wasn't shy about using their closer for 4 innings because he was the best they had available. When the season is on the line you have to use your best weapons, and Virginia did, and that's why the Cavs are playing on and the Gators are going home.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
I guess Kevin O'Sullivan will have to endure a lot of second guessing for not using Puk in an elimination game. UVA wasn't shy about using their closer for 4 innings because he was the best they had available. When the season is on the line you have to use your best weapons, and Virginia did, and that's why the Cavs are playing on and the Gators are going home.
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And when virginia loses to Vandy they both will be in the same place. I respect the hell out of sully for playing for it all. He knew without puk he couldn't beat Vandy and finishing 2nd meant nothing to him. Hats off
 
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UT Hill Man said:
I guess Kevin O'Sullivan will have to endure a lot of second guessing for not using Puk in an elimination game. UVA wasn't shy about using their closer for 4 innings because he was the best they had available. When the season is on the line you have to use your best weapons, and Virginia did, and that's why the Cavs are playing on and the Gators are going home.
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I addressed the scenario on the previous page of this thread.

I have no issue with the decision and would have done the same thing.

Truth be told, the problem wasn't Dunning.

What lost the game was... Virginia got a clutch 2 out double and in general did a better job bringing home a runner when they had a scoring opportunity.

Florida had a 1st and 2nd with no one out in the 3rd and didn't get a bunt down. Eventually didn't score.

Florida had 1st and 3rd with one out in the 6th and a batter struck out failing to get the run home. Didn't score

In a similar situation in the 7th with bases loaded and 1 out, Virginia got a fly ball and got the runner home. Also with 1st and 3rd and 1 out in the 4th, Virginia got a fly ball and got the runner home.

When Dunning left the game in the 5th, Florida was up 3-2. There were 2 outs and a runner on 1st. Florida's bullpen gave up 3 more runs.

I've got no complaints. They got beat.
 
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#168
Bruin and 99, I sort of agreed with the strategy going into the game, but then I read the story about the game and in the reader comments a lot of Gator fans were critical of the move. I guess we'll never know if the outcome woulda been different if Puk had pitched.

And if Florida had won using Puk, taking him out of a game 1 start, I'm not so sure the Gators wouldn't have found a way to beat Vandy anyway. Their bats woulda given them a punchers chance.

And it is true that some fans are second guessing his decision.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
Bruin and 99, I sort of agreed with the strategy going into the game, but then I read the story about the game and in the reader comments a lot of Gator fans were critical of the move. I guess we'll never know if the outcome woulda been different if Puk had pitched.

And if Florida had won using Puk, taking him out of a game 1 start, I'm not so sure the Gators wouldn't have found a way to beat Vandy anyway. Their bats woulda given them a punchers chance.

And it is true that some fans are second guessing his decision.
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I never said there wasn't criticism.

It's one of those situations where, as far as I am concerned, there is sound logic for each choice.

It's one of those typical situations where when you win you're a genius and when you lose you're an idiot.
 
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BruinVol said:
And when virginia loses to Vandy they both will be in the same place. I respect the hell out of sully for playing for it all. He knew without puk he couldn't beat Vandy and finishing 2nd meant nothing to him. Hats off
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I don't think you're playing for it all if you don't even get there. To win a title you have to be in it. I'd rather risk it once I'm in the finals. But that's me.
 
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#171
Mike Rapp said:
I think the corner was turned when Corbin was able to convince Price and Alvarez to not sign pro contracts. And how he did it was the foundation of the future of his recruiting strategy. He goes after these high ceiling guys and make a financial case for them to go to school.

And not just Vandy, any well-managed college program.

He doesn't so much blow his Vandy horn, he is practical and honest, and he lays it out in black and white.

Pedro Alvarez was offered $100K out of high school to sign with Boston. Corbin flew up to his home and presented him with a three ring binder of the facts of bonus money, living on your own as a teenager, and development as a player and as a person. Boston kept upping the cash until it got to just under $1 mil, and at that point Pedro knew Vandy was the right choice regardless.

This past week Price basically repeated everything Corbin told him when he was at Blackman and was offered just under $2 mil to sign. He wasn't ready, not physically or emotionally, to ride a bus with guys he'd met three days earlier. And if he was good enough, he'd get more money and a better opportunity in three years.

Kyle Waldrup was supposed to have signed with Price and he reneged and signed a pro contract the night of the draft. Waldrup never sniffed the pros and is now an assistant at Farragut, watching Everett turn down $2 mil to go to Vandy. Meanwhile Price is going to sign a $120 mil contract next year. Waldrup got $1 mil out of high school and no one cares.

Had Waldrup stuck to his word, maybe he gets injured, or maybe he doesn't pan out. But look at these kids who play reserve roles at Vandy getting $1 mil or so to sign as juniors, with a two year opportunity to pitch in the Majors. I'd pick the Vandy route every time, and who wouldn't?

It doesn't always work out this way, quite obviously. But my point is, Corbin doesn't get emotional and call kids 24/7/365, begging them to come to Vandy. He tells them what he believes is true, tells them he won't guarantee them anything other than a chance, and lets the kid make the decision. It is a career decision, not just "come play for X school and have fun."

And Corbin can now point to all these kids who made that decision and are now playing professionally. Does Rhett Wiseman get a third round draft selection anywhere else? People can point to his ability to sign these high ceiling pitchers, but Tony Kemp, a kid barely even recruited out of Centennial High School, is now a phone call away from playing for the Astros.

Now clubs don't slow play Vandy recruits, and that's part of the reason you see these VU signees get huge huge signing bonus offers right out of the gate. They know if they don't come with the cash the kids will go to VU and get it in three years.

And again, I will add, I am all for full rides for baseball. And I don't think it would impact Vandy's recruiting at all going forward.

I still cannot believe how lucky Vanderbilt was to have signed Corbin. I mean, sure, he and Sully were considered two of the top assistants in baseball, but no one could have predicted what he has done at Vandy. And with what he knows, I truly think he could go to any school and make them a superpower in five years.
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How did Everett turn down $2mil? He demanded it and "scared" teams away. As a result he was drafted in the 29th round.
 
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