2024 Official Seed List Watch Party Thread

#226
#226
Tennessee hasn’t reached the elite 8 since 2010.

Tennessee this season is a great team that could realistically reach the elite 8, however it hasn’t happened since 2010.
That is the factual reason why I won’t greatly hope or greatly expect them to reach the elite 8.
 
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#227
#227
VolCalls said:
I’m assuming you’re talking about 2022 when we were ranked 5th in the AP poll going into Selection Sunday and UK was ranked 7th. You’d have to look at the body of work using the tools the selection committee uses, starting with the NET rankings. Top 25 poll rankings are not a part of the committee’s criteria, BTW. I will assume you didn’t know that since you brought it up here. And, we did beat UK twice but also lost to them by 28 points in the other meeting.

Both teams were 26-7 after the conference tournament, so saying either team had a better overall record is false.

I tried to look up the NET rankings from Selection Sunday of that year but couldn’t find them. The final NET from April 4th had us #6 and them #10 after they were bounced by Saint Peter’s.
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ftw.usatoday.com

Tennessee got a three seed in the NCAA Tournament, and the internet was furious

The NCAA Tournament committee will have a tough time explaining how this makes any sense.
ftw.usatoday.com ftw.usatoday.com

It was definitely discussed nationally. At some point, people will realize human bias is involved with the NCAAT and the football playoff. They want to maximize dollars.

This was also the realization that conference tournaments don’t matter unless a team wins that otherwise wasn’t in. Just wait until the parameters change again to fit the agenda.
 
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#228
#228
VolArmy74 said:
We both had 6 q1 wins. We had 9 q2 wins, they were 5-1 there. They had 15 Q3/4 wins to our 13 because they played 2 more games there. We had 0 non-q1 losses. They had one. Our sos was 5th, theirs was 18th. We were both 6-5 in true road games. There was no metric I could find where they were better than we were as far as a resume goes. We were told by Lunardi that even before the beating we gave them in the SECT that they were getting the 2 and we were getting the 3.
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Solid info. Based on the data we should have been above them on the S-curve. The only logical explanation, other than bias, for us being a #3 would be the committee adjusting us down a seed line, or adjusting UK up a line, to make the bracketing procedures work relative to conference affiliations and/or geography.
 
#229
#229
berryvol said:
They are 6-4 and we are 5-5 vs Q1. This is all changing by the day and our resume is equal, if not better when considering both team’s losses.
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Today, yes. When the seeds were released before yesterday’s games we had 4 Quad 1 wins and they had 6.
 
#231
#231
orangemadam said:
Purdue lost but I see no way their 1 seed is in danger.

I still hope to get the first or second 2 seed after all is said and done.
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I would put the probability fairly low that they drop a seed line by the end of the year. However, considering that they just lost to a not great Ohio State team, looking at the rest of their schedule, there are a lot of other potential L’s.

@ Rutgers
Michigan
@ Michigan State
Illinois
@ Wisconsin

Those are three tough road games and Illinois is a tough home game.

I think they’d have to stop 3 more games to drop off the 1-seed line, but even then that would probably require another 2-seed team to basically run the table till the end to pass them.
 
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#232
TheMookieMonster said:
I would put the probability fairly low that they drop a seed line by the end of the year. However, considering that they just lost to a not great Ohio State team, looking at the rest of their schedule, there are a lot of other potential L’s.

@ Rutgers
Michigan
@ Michigan State
Illinois
@ Wisconsin

Those are three tough road games and Illinois is a tough home game.

I think they’d have to stop 3 more games to drop off the 1-seed line, but even then that would probably require another 2-seed team to basically run the table till the end to pass them.
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You have the locations flip flopped. Purdue’s remaining schedule is:

vs Rutgers
@ Michigan
vs Michigan State
@ Illinois
vs Wisconsin

So they really only have 1 tougher road game. They may possibly split Michigan State and Wisconsin at home but they very easily could only lose 1 game the rest of the season, maybe even none.
 
#233
#233
Purdue the past two games has not looked like a top 5 team. Needed a double digit comeback to beat a not so great Minnesota team and then losing to a mediocre Ohio State team who just lost their coach.
 
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#234
CornbreadVol said:
Purdue the past two games has not looked like a top 5 team. Needed a double digit comeback to beat a not so great Minnesota team and then losing to a mediocre Ohio State team who just lost their coach.
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Most teams drop a head-scratcher at some point. I do think today’s loss moves UConn up to the overall #1 on the S-curve.
 
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#237
I want say we need AU, Bama, and KY to move up in rankings in top 10 by the time we play them. If we win out and beat 3 teams in top 10 down the stretch I can’t imagine a scenario where don’t become a #1 seed
 
#243
#243
bleedingTNorange said:
Win these next 2 and it definitely makes that likely, we got 6 games left, feels like 4-2 locks up a 2 seed and even 3-3 it’s probably still the case.
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Yeah I think @TheMookieMonster mentioned it before, but if we can beat Missouri and A&M then we will finish without a stain on our resume no matter how the last 4 games shape up. Really need to go 2-0 in these next two to (almost) lock in a 2 seed I think.
 
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#244
Willy14 said:
Yeah I think @TheMookieMonster mentioned it before, but if we can beat Missouri and A&M then we will finish without a stain on our resume no matter how the last 4 games shape up. Really need to go 2-0 in these next two to (almost) lock in a 2 seed I think.
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It’s crazy. If you were to read some of the posts on here a couple games ago then you’d think this team was fighting for a tourney birth
 
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#246
#246
cncchris33 said:
Iowa St. is essentially Houston-lite. Guard dominant, not a ton of size and not particularly deep. Maybe a little more balanced scoring. Very good defense.
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I watched that game last night and both are very good teams. I also like our chances if we match up with either of them the second weekend of the tournament.
 
#247
#247
VolArmy74 said:
We beat UK twice a couple years ago, had a better overall record, were ranked #5 in the nation and got a #3 seed while they got a #2 seed. Blue Blood bias is frequent.
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Yep, was watching some old clips last night. 2018/2019 was the #1 year with Grant/Admiral. Kentucky beat UT by 17 at Rupp, UT beat Kentucky by 19 in TBA. Kentucky finished the season 26-5 (15-3). UT finished the season 27-4 (15-3). Kentucky finished the regular season #7 and the Vols finished #10.

UT beat Kentucky by 4 in Nashville and both received 2 seeds.
 
#248
#248
VolunteerVFL said:
Yep, was watching some old clips last night. 2018/2019 was the #1 year with Grant/Admiral. Kentucky beat UT by 17 at Rupp, UT beat Kentucky by 19 in TBA. Kentucky finished the season 26-5 (15-3). UT finished the season 27-4 (15-3). Kentucky finished the regular season #7 and the Vols finished #10.

UT beat Kentucky by 4 in Nashville and both received 2 seeds.
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During 2019, you are correct. VolArmy and I were talking about the 2022 season, when UK was a 2-seed in the NCAA and we were a 3.
 
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