2024 Official Seed List Watch Party Thread

#256
#256
Tbh someone correct me if I am off base here but, I don't see a huge difference between the last 1 seed and the first 2 seed. If we're the last 1 then we get shipped out west with likely Zona as the 2 as opposed to being a 2 in the midwest region where we will have more fans. Obviously as the 1, you get better seed matchups but to me, I would almost rather be the first 2. Maybe I am way off here.
 
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#257
CornbreadVol said:
Tbh someone correct me if I am off base here but, I don't see a huge difference between the last 1 seed and the first 2 seed. If we're the last 1 then we get shipped out west with likely Zona as the 2 as opposed to being a 2 in the midwest region where we will have more fans. Obviously as the 1, you get better seed matchups but to me, I would almost rather be the first 2. Maybe I am way off here.
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You’re not wrong. I don’t think getting the last 1-seed is that important. I also think getting the last 1-seed is a longshot. Still need AZ to lose one more game most likely, and we need to win out. That all feels rather unlikely.
 
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CornbreadVol said:
Tbh someone correct me if I am off base here but, I don't see a huge difference between the last 1 seed and the first 2 seed. If we're the last 1 then we get shipped out west with likely Zona as the 2 as opposed to being a 2 in the midwest region where we will have more fans. Obviously as the 1, you get better seed matchups but to me, I would almost rather be the first 2. Maybe I am way off here.
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I think you’ll see just as many Vol fans at either location if they make it to that point, once you get outside 5-6 hours most people are looking to fly regardless, and flights are cheaper into LA than Detroit out of Knoxville.
 
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#259
TheMookieMonster said:
You’re not wrong. I don’t think getting the last 1-seed is that important. I also think getting the last 1-seed is a longshot. Still need AZ to lose one more game most likely, and we need to win out. That all feels rather unlikely.
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Gonna dive into it more here in a bit, but it feels to me like even or better schedule and we are above them…right now we’re even, both at 20-6 with 5 to go.
 
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CornbreadVol said:
Tbh someone correct me if I am off base here but, I don't see a huge difference between the last 1 seed and the first 2 seed. If we're the last 1 then we get shipped out west with likely Zona as the 2 as opposed to being a 2 in the midwest region where we will have more fans. Obviously as the 1, you get better seed matchups but to me, I would almost rather be the first 2. Maybe I am way off here.
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Biggest question is who would you rather the top team in your region be? Houston, Purdue or Arizona?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Gonna dive into it more here in a bit, but it feels to me like even or better schedule and we are above them…right now we’re even, both at 20-6 with 5 to go.
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I guess I just saw a few bracketologists that were saying the outcome of last night’s game wouldn’t move them off the 1-line. They were saying that they felt there was a “sizable gap” between the 1 and 2 lines before last night. I took that as Arizona would need to have more losses than us for us to pass them.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Biggest question is who would you rather the top team in your region be? Houston, Purdue or Arizona?
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Already seen Zach Edey experience against vols no thanks. Also, Houston is exactly the type of team vols struggle against super hyper physical. Arizona is the answer especially if Love is having an inefficient game.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I guess I just saw a few bracketologists that were saying the outcome of last night’s game wouldn’t move them off the 1-line. They were saying that they felt there was a “sizable gap” between the 1 and 2 lines before last night. I took that as Arizona would need to have more losses than us for us to pass them.
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I don’t think we pass them based off last night, but I think it brings things much closer now (no more sizable gap). So from there if both teams go 4-1, Tennessee losing on the road to a Top 10 NET Alabama and Arizona losing on the road to a “bad” UCLA team what does that do to those resumes? I think you also have to consider that Arizona has zero Top 50 games remaining, we have at least 5, potentially 6 depending on where A&M ends up, and 2 of those being Top 10. Meaning we will greatly bolster our resume by going 4-1 while Arizona’s resume won’t change.
 
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#265
Chaz-Vol said:
Already seen Zach Edey experience against vols no thanks. Also, Houston is exactly the type of team vols struggle against super hyper physical. Arizona is the answer especially if Love is having an inefficient game.
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Kinda my thought…Arizona isn’t super physical, they’re a lot like North Carolina in that they are solid defensively but they wanna push pace and they’ll give up points.
 
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#266
#266
Right now we are 5-5 in Q1 games. Arizona is 7-4, but likely don't have anymore Q1 games left unless they play Washington St in the Pac12 tournament. There isn't much difference in the resumes looking at Q2-Q4.

We have at least 3 more Q1 games, and maybe 4. If we finish out 4-1 and are 8-6 in Q1, including 5-5 in Q1A, we certainly have an argument over Arizona, especially if they drop 1 more game.

So the next question is, would we rather be the 1 in the west with Arizona as the 2? Or a 2 in the midwest with Purdue as the 1? Honestly, I'm sick of Purdue. It just seems like the breaks always go their way when we play them. Whether it's refs giving them 250 free throws, Lamonte Turner getting called for a crap foul at the end of regulation after the shooter was likely out of bounds anyway, or some obscure role player going 7-10 from 3. I mean, part of me is like, if we even play Purdue, it will be in the elite 8, so who cares? But I'm just so over them. Arizona's front court could give us fits, but Ballo isn't Edey. So screw it, give me that 1 seed, even if we'd end up 3,000 miles away. Nothing else has ever worked for us. Maybe we just need that top line to get us over the hump!
 
#267
#267
TheMookieMonster said:
I guess I just saw a few bracketologists that were saying the outcome of last night’s game wouldn’t move them off the 1-line. They were saying that they felt there was a “sizable gap” between the 1 and 2 lines before last night. I took that as Arizona would need to have more losses than us for us to pass them.
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Now the question is what does the gap look like after the Arizona loss? I think most bracketologists will still have Arizona as that last #1 seed but what does the committee consider the gap to be now? I agree, I don’t think Arizona can afford any more losses considering every loss from here on out would be outside of Q1.

You have to also consider that the Top 4 teams in the first Top 16 reveal have remained as #1 seeds the past couple of years.
 
#268
#268
Current resumes:

Tennessee:
Overall: 20-6
NET: 6
SOS: 5
Quadrant 1: 5-5
Quadrant 2: 5-1
Quadrant 3: 5-0
Quadrant 4: 5-0

Remaining schedule: 4 Q1 & 1 Q2
Texas A&M
Auburn
@ Alabama
@ South Carolina
Kentucky



Arizona:
Overall: 20-6
NET: 3
SOS: 3
Quadrant 1: 7-4
Quadrant 2: 3-1
Quadrant 3: 7-1
Quadrant 4: 3-0

Remaining schedule: 4 Q2 & 1 Q3
Washington
@ Arizona State
Oregon
@ UCLA
@ USC


So if Tennessee goes 4-1 with let’s say a loss at Alabama, and Arizona goes 4-1 with let’s say a loss @USC, their end of year looks like…

Tennessee:
Overall: 24-7
Quadrant 1: 8-6
Quadrant 2: 6-1
Quadrant 3: 5-0
Quadrant 4: 5-0


Arizona:
Overall: 24-7
Quadrant 1: 7-4
Quadrant 2: 6-2
Quadrant 3: 8-1
Quadrant 4: 3-0
 
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#270
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knoxvol52 said:
Lunardi has Tennessee in South Region as a #2 seed.

Starting out in Indianapolis
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He screwed something up. He has 3 different pods playing in Indianapolis and only 1 pod in Charlotte. I don't think he meant to put us there - it was probably there for whoever he had as the 2 seed in the South region and he didn't change it to Charlotte.
 
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wtmvol said:
He screwed something up. He has 3 different pods playing in Indianapolis and only 1 pod in Charlotte. I don't think he meant to put us there - it was probably there for whoever he had as the 2 seed in the South region and he didn't change it to Charlotte.
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He needs a copy editor. There are multiple mistakes in his graphics every time he puts them out. He’s frequently had Tennessee and UNC both listed the top 2 seed and once had Iowa State listed as both a 2 and 3 seed lol.
 
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Another thing to note is the committee splits up the quadrants into A and B (so Q1A and Q1B wins) when dissecting resumes. At least that's what the committee chairman indicated in an interview for a Bracket Watch article in The Athletic this morning. Currently, Zona has what would be considered four Q1A wins (@ Duke, MSU, Bama, Wisconsin). We have five Q1A wins (@UK, Bama, @Wisconsin, Illinois, and Florida). Zona has no additional opportunities for Q1A, while we have three left on the schedule. Wins on the road against quality competition was also mentioned as something the committee prioritizes, over winning all Q1 games at home (no surprise, I know.) . It would almost be more beneficial to our resume (if we do end up going 4-1 down the stretch) for us to win @ Bama, but drop either Auburn or UK at home.
 
#273
#273
wtmvol said:
He screwed something up. He has 3 different pods playing in Indianapolis and only 1 pod in Charlotte. I don't think he meant to put us there - it was probably there for whoever he had as the 2 seed in the South region and he didn't change it to Charlotte.
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Agree - we will be playing in Charlotte if we’re a 2-seed. The biggest difference in being a #1 vs a #2 is the 1-seeds get to select their site for the first weekend. If it happens, it would be interesting to see if CRB would choose Charlotte or Memphis. Overall, I think I’d rather end up as the #2 in the South because it would put us closer to home for the regionals.
 
#275
#275
I am still focused on winning out ... get on a roll and keep that log spinning. Be mentally and intellectually prepared. Be in the moment. "Chance favors the prepared mind." Louis Pasteur
Still 4-1 would be a reasonable finish. ;)
I do not get involved in the 2 vs 1. I just focus on racking up wins. But I would prefer to play in Charlotte!
 
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