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What I'm really afraid of is the NCAA handing down a something along the lines of a one year suspension. If that happens, I think Hamilton is going to try to keep Pearl and allow Jones to be the interm for a year. I really hope the NCAA suspends Pearl either very lightly or very harshly just to keep that decision out of Hamilton's hands. I'm a Pearl guy and am really hoping the suspension is light, but I don't think the NCAA is thinking the same way.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I was thinking about that as a possibility. I wasn't sure it was a good idea, but I started a thread about the possibility of him announcing his resignation during the season. Of course, that was based on the assumption that the uncertainty about Pearl's future was a factor in the team's poor performance.
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There's no reason for him to do it now. This season is going to play itself out. That's what the staff has to get across to the team. The 'AA stuff and Pearl's future will be decided after the curtain comes down on '10-'11. Focus on the here and now.
 
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hatvol96 said:
There's no reason for him to do it now. This season is going to play itself out. That's what the staff has to get across to the team. The 'AA stuff and Pearl's future will be decided after the curtain comes down on '10-'11. Focus on the here and now.
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Any hope for a 'AA tourney run this year?
 
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iuvol2012 said:
Any hope for a 'AA tourney run this year?
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They're capable of making a regional final. That said, their ballhandling and halfcourt offense is bad enough to get them beat in the first round, too. I'd put the odds at 50-50 of them still being alive when the second weekend starts.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
And Larry Brown's win % would probably be around 80-85% if he spent 10 years at a D2 school.

And just come out and say it if you think Pearl is as good of coach as Larry Brown. You've danced all around it, just say it.
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Larry Brown's UCLA final four team was vacated due to playing ineligible players. Seems there is another SEC coach with that problem as well.

Larry Brown won the 1988 NCAA tournament and then promptly left KU. KU was penalized for recruiting violations under Brown and banned from tournament play in 1989. KU remains the only team in history unable to defend it's title due to NCAA sanctions.

Quite honestly, it appears Brown and Pearl may be cut from the same cloth if you get right down to it.
 
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hatvol96 said:
They're capable of making a regional final. That said, their ballhandling and halfcourt offense is bad enough to get them beat in the first round, too. I'd put the odds at 50-50 of them still being alive when the second weekend starts.
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Thanks :hi: Any early Final Four picks or is it still too early to tell?
 
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iuvol2012 said:
Thanks :hi: Any early Final Four picks or is it still too early to tell?
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Pitt and Ohio State are really good. I'll be shocked if at least one of them don't get there. Syracuse is going to be a very difficuly mathcup come March. Kansas is getting better and better. They are more talented than last year. Duke has to get Irving back. It'll be much easier to make that kind of projection after another month of conference play.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Larry Brown's UCLA final four team was vacated due to playing ineligible players. Seems there is another SEC coach with that problem as well.

Larry Brown won the 1988 NCAA tournament and then promptly left KU. KU was penalized for recruiting violations under Brown and banned from tournament play in 1989. KU remains the only team in history unable to defend it's title due to NCAA sanctions.

Quite honestly, it appears Brown and Pearl may be cut from the same cloth if you get right down to it.
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Will anyone speak to this? Or will the claims go uncontested?
 
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hatvol96 said:
They're capable of making a regional final. That said, their ballhandling and halfcourt offense is bad enough to get them beat in the first round, too. I'd put the odds at 50-50 of them still being alive when the second weekend starts.
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Do you think the committee uses any bias against Tennessee when seeding them for the NCAA's?
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
Do you think the committee uses any bias against Tennessee when seeding them for the NCAA's?
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In a word, yes. You have to look no further than West Virginia and Kentucky being placed in the same region and Duke being given a bye to the Final Four last season for evidence that the committee plays favorites.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, numbers run up in the trash heap league Milwaukee plays are comparable to those earned at UCLA and Kansas. Makes perfect sense.
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Actually, Milwaukee is dragging his numbers DOWN, not up:

Pearl's record at UWM: 86-38, 69%
Pearl's record at UT: 138-52, 73%

FWIW Brown @ UCLA: 71%
Brown @ Kansas: 75%
 
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StepCross said:
Actually, Milwaukee is dragging his numbers DOWN, not up:

Pearl's record at UWM: 86-38, 69%
Pearl's record at UT: 138-52, 73%

FWIW Brown @ UCLA: 71%
Brown @ Kansas: 75%
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Larry Brown won at a higher clip in the PAC 10 and the Big 8 than Bruce Pearl did in the Horizon League. I'm not surprised.
 
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Brown did admit today that he doesn't like the way it ended at the bobcats and wants to coach again.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Larry Brown's UCLA final four team was vacated due to playing ineligible players. Seems there is another SEC coach with that problem as well.

Larry Brown won the 1988 NCAA tournament and then promptly left KU. KU was penalized for recruiting violations under Brown and banned from tournament play in 1989. KU remains the only team in history unable to defend it's title due to NCAA sanctions.

Quite honestly, it appears Brown and Pearl may be cut from the same cloth if you get right down to it.
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The violation centered around Vincent Askew, a Memphis State guard thinking about transferring, taking a visit to KU at the end of the 1986 season (his sophomore year). KU paid for this trip. There were some other extra benefit infractions from excessive pay paid to players for summer jobs. NCAA came down so hard because the KU football team had recently had infractions in 1983.
 
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Did Memphis state ever get in troubles for the Jags they use to drive around or did everyone just ignore them?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Larry Brown won at a higher clip in the PAC 10 and the Big 8 than Bruce Pearl did in the Horizon League. I'm not surprised.
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Sure, but Horizon League is a tough place to win because you're coaching Horizon League talent.

That's why it's so easy to win in the NBA. I mean, think about it. You have a roster full of NBA players....you should never lose a game.
 
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hatvol96 said:
In a word, yes. You have to look no further than West Virginia and Kentucky being placed in the same region and Duke being given a bye to the Final Four last season for evidence that the committee plays favorites.
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Thanks for the input. It seems like Tennessee has been on the short end for most of the draws during Pearl's tenure. I'd say they get put in an even lower position this year.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
Sure, but Horizon League is a tough place to win because you're coaching Horizon League talent.

That's why it's so easy to win in the NBA. I mean, think about it. You have a roster full of NBA players....you should never lose a game.
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You obviously missed my point. When the league talent is on par, the coaching results are comparable. Horizon league teams for the most part are comparable talent wise so a good coach can be identified.

Maybe it would help if I used the flip side example. Memphis dominated CUSA late in Calipari's tenure simply by having major conference talent in a lower conference. When Cal was coaching in CUSA with CUSA-talent players he was mediocre at best. Everyone understands that Cal is a recruiter, but a mediocre coach.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
You obviously missed my point. When the league talent is on par, the coaching results are comparable. Horizon league teams for the most part are comparable talent wise so a good coach can be identified.

Maybe it would help if I used the flip side example. Memphis dominated CUSA late in Calipari's tenure simply by having major conference talent in a lower conference. When Cal was coaching in CUSA with CUSA-talent players he was mediocre at best. Everyone understands that Cal is a recruiter, but a mediocre coach.
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The best coach Pearl faced in league play during his time at Milwaukee was Todd Lickliter. Look what an awesome job he did at Iowa. If you're comparing coaching against a bunch of jokers nobody could pick out of a lineup to matching wits with guys like Ralph Miller, Marv Harshman, Jack Hartman, and Norm Stewart, godd luck with that. It's like comparing success in a backyard go cart race to being the champ in Formula One.
 
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hatvol96 said:
The best coach Pearl faced in league play during his time at Milwaukee was Todd Lickliter. Look what an awesome job he did at Iowa. If you're comparing coaching against a bunch of jokers nobody could pick out of a lineup to matching wits with guys like Ralph Miller, Marv Harshman, Jack Hartman, and Norm Stewart, godd luck with that. It's like comparing success in a backyard go cart race to being the champ in Formula One.
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You are making my point. All the coaches in the Horizon had the same player talent. Pearl wasn't coaching a roaster full of NBA-talent guys and winning. He was coaching future insurance salesmen and pharmaceutical reps. Like the commercial says - his players went on to become professionals is something other than sports.

The competition was tougher in the Big 8/Pac 10 but Brown had much better players of which some would play in the NBA.
 
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