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#302
UT IE 95 said:
Tressel and Stoops are great coaches. But they are big game flops.

Saban has worked majic at UAT. He has made life difficult for new coaches by shortening the rebuild expectation to months rather than years.

The best head coaches right now are Saban, Patterson, and Kelly. They flat out get it done.
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What's Chip Kelly's record in BCS games? Looks like some serious flopping to me.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Tressel and Stoops are great coaches. But they are big game flops.

Saban has worked majic at UAT. He has made life difficult for new coaches by shortening the rebuild expectation to months rather than years.

The best head coaches right now are Saban, Patterson, and Kelly. They flat out get it done.
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*magic
 
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#308
hatvol96 said:
If, as becomes increasingly obvious, Pearl is suspended for at least a season and has to ultimately be terminated, the perfect coach to handle his absence/departure became available today. Larry Brown. How do you sell it to him? Simple. You tell him that Pearl is only being kept around out of loyalty and to ensure he is employable when his suspension ends. I raise that issure because if UT immediately fires him, there could be questions as to whether his suspension can be served while he's unemployed. That lets Brown, who has 3 or 4 good years left, settle in with the knowledge he's an interim coach in name only. It also gives you an extended window in which to seek out the long term answer. It's a win for everyone. Brown gets a big check without dealing with NBA egos, Pearl gets the issues resulting from his ethical lapse behind him, and UT keeps its basketball train on the tracks.
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Thoughtful post. It makes a lot of sense. The one point I'm not necessarily sure I agree with is that Brown dislikes or is sick of dealing with NBA egos. Surely there have been ample opportunities for him to come back to the college game since he last coached college. If NBA egos bothered him that much, I feel like he would have already made the move.
 
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kidbourbon said:
Thoughtful post. It makes a lot of sense. The one point I'm not necessarily sure I agree with is that Brown dislikes or is sick of dealing with NBA egos. Surely there have been ample opportunities for him to come back to the college game since he last coached college. If NBA egos bothered him that much, I feel like he would have already made the move.
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He's never stayed unemployed long since he last coached college. It doesn't take him long to find a new NBA job. I'm not 100% convinced he's done dealing with NBA guys. I'm just saying if there isn't an NBA offer sitting there for him in April, a couple of mil per year from a program with great facilities and support won't look like an awful option.
 
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hatvol96 said:
He's never stayed unemployed long since he last coached college. It doesn't take him long to find a new NBA job. I'm not 100% convinced he's done dealing with NBA guys. I'm just saying if there isn't an NBA offer sitting there for him in April, a couple of mil per year from a program with great facilities and support won't look like an awful option.
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It seems like there always is one for him, but if there isn't...then, yeah, makes sense.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
And that explains why Cal can only take an NBA roster team in college so far. He can't coach the final 25% of the way to the finish.
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Winning an NCAA basketball championship is probably the most competitive and difficult championship to win at the college level. The parity and inclusiveness of all level programs in the tournament lends itself to upsets. That's why making a Final Four is such a big deal to a program, even if they don't win it.

If winning a NC were so easy, you wouldn't see the huge gaps in championships that you see, like KU not winning one for 20 years, Kentucky on year 13, Louisville on year 25, and UCLA on year 16 between titles. All of these storied programs have had really, really good teams that were capable of winning a few championships in the last decade. It takes a little luck also. I guess Roy Williams, Rick Pitino, and Ben Howland all coach at 75% level also.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
When did they vacate Williams' and Pitino's championships?
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You are missing the point. The point wasn't about vacated championships. It was about Cal having not won a championship yet and the poster alluding to Cal not being an elite coach. Many believe that talent + coaching excellence= automatic championship. There are other factors at play like, a cold shooting night, a draw with the one team that is a bad match up for your team, a hot shooting night by your opponent, untimely injuries, etc. The blue blood programs in BB history are UCLA, Kentucky, KU, UNC, and Duke. One would think that every 3-4 years each of these teams would win a NC. It was 10 years between Duke NC, 20 years between the last 2 KU titles, 16 since the last UCLA title, 13 since the last UK title. Only UNC had a short span between their last 2 titles and now they are a struggling program.
 
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hatvol96 said:
He's never stayed unemployed long since he last coached college. It doesn't take him long to find a new NBA job. I'm not 100% convinced he's done dealing with NBA guys. I'm just saying if there isn't an NBA offer sitting there for him in April, a couple of mil per year from a program with great facilities and support won't look like an awful option.
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Do you remember a certain KU assistant who became a Final Four coach at one school, went to the NBA and was fired, then returned to the college ranks at a Tennessee school amidst a scandal? I think that turned out pretty well for the program.
 
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#315
I just read a GVX article about Pearl "fighting back" against the Bilas and Vitale saying he shoud have been punished more severe by the NCAA? Uhhh did they already announce his punishment? I thought it was coming in April or this summer or something????
 
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hatvol96 said:
If, as becomes increasingly obvious, Pearl is suspended for at least a season and has to ultimately be terminated, the perfect coach to handle his absence/departure became available today. Larry Brown. How do you sell it to him? Simple. You tell him that Pearl is only being kept around out of loyalty and to ensure he is employable when his suspension ends. I raise that issure because if UT immediately fires him, there could be questions as to whether his suspension can be served while he's unemployed. That lets Brown, who has 3 or 4 good years left, settle in with the knowledge he's an interim coach in name only. It also gives you an extended window in which to seek out the long term answer. It's a win for everyone. Brown gets a big check without dealing with NBA egos, Pearl gets the issues resulting from his ethical lapse behind him, and UT keeps its basketball train on the tracks.
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that's hysterical to think Hambone could hire Larry Brown when you look at his last hire
 
#317
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hatvol96 said:
Can he recognize his house in a photo?
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depends on if its an actual color photo or a black & white photocopy.

Once the NCAA starts suspending coaches they catch committing real recruiting violations, then they can start suspending coaches that come clean after having a change of heart.
 
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allvol said:
depends on if its an actual color photo or a black & white photocopy.

Once the NCAA starts suspending coaches they catch committing real recruiting violations, then they can start suspending coaches that come clean after having a change of heart.
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Yeah, Pearl came clean because he had a change of heart. It had nothing to do with his inability to convince the recruits to lie to the NCAA.
 
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allvol said:
Once the NCAA starts suspending coaches they catch committing real recruiting violations, then they can start suspending coaches that come clean after having a change of heart.
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Give me a break. Surely to God you're not that naive.
 
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CALISKING said:
You are missing the point. The point wasn't about vacated championships. It was about Cal having not won a championship yet and the poster alluding to Cal not being an elite coach. Many believe that talent + coaching excellence= automatic championship. There are other factors at play like, a cold shooting night, a draw with the one team that is a bad match up for your team, a hot shooting night by your opponent, untimely injuries, etc. The blue blood programs in BB history are UCLA, Kentucky, KU, UNC, and Duke. One would think that every 3-4 years each of these teams would win a NC. It was 10 years between Duke NC, 20 years between the last 2 KU titles, 16 since the last UCLA title, 13 since the last UK title. Only UNC had a short span between their last 2 titles and now they are a struggling program.
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Yeah, Cal has just had bad luck in being a head coach for over 20 years without a championship. Surprised a Memphis fan would defend his coaching ability seeing him lose games despite the talent he collected.
 
#323
#323
First not convinced Pearl will be gone. If he is Larry Brown would be great. But you have to know that he would only be here for two, three years at the most. Would Hamilton go for this?
 
#324
#324
hatvol96 said:
Yeah, Pearl came clean because he had a change of heart. It had nothing to do with his inability to convince the recruits to lie to the NCAA.
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Are you kidding me? The man has showed tears. That shows how much passion he has for Tennessee basketball and remorse for the incident occurring.
 
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