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#227
#227
bleedingTNorange said:
Actually no it doesn't lol

And I don't care what the offense or defense looks like so long as you win, and that's something Howland has proven he knows how to do.
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73 this year 70 last year and 68 his first year with way less talent than Howland. Its the reason Howland was fired even with those FF appearances. His offense is one of the worst I have ever seen. With Westbrook , Collison and K Love they still only averaged 73 like we are this year and everyone is mad at the O. I don't think we would only still be averaging 73 if we had two First Team All NBA players on the team. If we hit free thows and layups we would be around 80. With the talent Howland had they should have averaged 80-85 a game at least. The year before that with Collison , All American Aron Afflalo and NBA player Mbah a Moute with Westbrook on the bench they averaged 69.5.
 
#229
#229
k-town_king said:
73 this year 70 last year and 68 his first year with way less talent than Howland. Its the reason Howland was fired even with those FF appearances. His offense is one of the worst I have ever seen. With Westbrook , Collison and K Love they still only averaged 73 like we are this year and everyone is mad at the O. I don't think we would only still be averaging 73 if we had two First Team All NBA players on the team. If we hit free thows and layups we would be around 80. With the talent Howland had they should have averaged 80-85 a game at least. The year before that with Collison , All American Aron Afflalo and NBA player Mbah a Moute with Westbrook on the bench they averaged 69.5.
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Statsheet.com has is at 66 points a game last year and 68 the year before that. I'm guessing our average this year sinks down from that 73, look at our average against quality opponents this year, numbers are a bit inflated.

Just because you have talent doesn't necessarily mean you have to be high scoring in order to be successful. Bo Ryan has talent, wins a lot, but typically averages in the 60s.

Like I said, I don't care what the offense or defense looks like so long as we are winning.
 
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#232
bleedingTNorange said:
And only you and a few others would.

Not sure how 6-4 in a 31 game season is considered a train wreck of a season, but once again, further proof why you're not an AD.
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It's all context BTO. If CCM is coming off two NCAAs - or even one - and the slow start is an anomoly, there aren't nearly as many folks panicking. May not be a train wreck now, but after two seasons of nearly identical starts you can see it trending in that direction.
 
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#233
#233
germanicus said:
It's all context BTO. If CCM is coming off two NCAAs - or even one - and the slow start is an anomoly, there aren't nearly as many folks panicking. May not be a train wreck now, but after two seasons of nearly identical starts you can see it trending in that direction.
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Ok and if this season ends 20-11 and we miss the dance that's not the train wreck that I'm talking about would cause him to get fired.

A train wreck is him going .500 or less overall, that would be a train wreck and may force Hart's hand. Anything more than that and I think he likely gets a 4th year, that's what I was saying, that no, where we are right now is not enough of a "train wreck" to get him firedIMO.

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Before everyone freaks out and says I think Martin should get a 4th year, re-read my post. I'm talking what I think Hart will do from what he has said, how we handled Dooley, where the AD is financially, etc.
 
#234
#234
Let's get Shaka Smart and play some havoc. Sadly, for some reason, I don't think we can or will.
 
#236
#236
If Howland recruited ATL like that at UCLA, imagine what he could do here. I'm probably getting myself too excited at this.
 
#237
#237
k-town_king said:
73 this year 70 last year and 68 his first year with way less talent than Howland. Its the reason Howland was fired even with those FF appearances. His offense is one of the worst I have ever seen. With Westbrook , Collison and K Love they still only averaged 73 like we are this year and everyone is mad at the O. I don't think we would only still be averaging 73 if we had two First Team All NBA players on the team. If we hit free thows and layups we would be around 80. With the talent Howland had they should have averaged 80-85 a game at least. The year before that with Collison , All American Aron Afflalo and NBA player Mbah a Moute with Westbrook on the bench they averaged 69.5.
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That's not even close to why Howland was fired at UCLA. You need to research better...or at all.
 
#238
#238
After 4/1/13 Martin's buyout is 750K. That might be the cheapest his buyout may ever be. You can't really go another year without an extension.
 
#239
#239
johnnybravo said:
After 4/1/13 Martin's buyout is 750K. That might be the cheapest his buyout may ever be. You can't really go another year without an extension.
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Wrong. His buyout is 60% of his remaining salary. He has two years after this one. 60% of his salary = 810k x 2 years = $1.6 million
 
#240
#240
1. Rick Barnes
2. Quin Snyder
3. Aaron Green (I know he is only a high school coach but Oak Ridge is solid every season)
 
#241
#241
BigZiti09 said:
Wrong. His buyout is 60% of his remaining salary. He has two years after this one. 60% of his salary = 810k x 2 years = $1.6 million
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Yeah, you are right. I thought I read 750K somewhere else and didn't look his contract up myself. Still at $1.6 IMO is the best option. Not giving him another extension this year with less than 2 years remaining is as good as gone. We will basically get screwed out of a recruiting class. No top talent will come here to play for CCM knowing that he's got one foot out the door. If he somehow gets an extension, then no harm to the class, but I don't see that. No need to make us suffer anymore, so the best time is to cut him in April. Just my opinion.
 
#242
#242
Any chance we could throw money at Randy Bennett and make him leave California? I really like the guy as a head coach.
 
#243
#243
johnnybravo said:
Yeah, you are right. I thought I read 750K somewhere else and didn't look his contract up myself. Still at $1.6 IMO is the best option. Not giving him another extension this year with less than 2 years remaining is as good as gone. We will basically get screwed out of a recruiting class. No top talent will come here to play for CCM knowing that he's got one foot out the door. If he somehow gets an extension, then no harm to the class, but I don't see that. No need to make us suffer anymore, so the best time is to cut him in April. Just my opinion.
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Hart may try to renegotiate the deal. Add a year, give a small raise but lower the buyout.

You almost have to fire him or extend him at this point. It will be a killer in recruiting.
 
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#247
Volunteer_Kirby said:
Any chance we could throw money at Randy Bennett and make him leave California? I really like the guy as a head coach.
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He was on my short list before I read this:

The findings of an NCAA investigation into the program were released in March, and Saint Mary's was hit with four years of probation for "a failure to monitor and a failure to promote an atmosphere for compliance" in its men's basketball program.
NCAA upholds penalties against Saint Mary's, Randy Bennett - San Jose Mercury News
 
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