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kevino said:
Yeah , I don't know how you can call him "flavor of the week" . He took VCU to the Final Four, and a couple of Sweet Sixteens just in the last few years
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Agreed. Smart is not a "flavor of the week" at all. That guy can flat out coach and his record bears that out. He's had more success at this point on the D1 level than CBP when he got hired.
 
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#203
There should probably be 2 lists, a list of guys you'd like to see us target, and then a list of who we would actually target.

I say this because, we have a history of wanting to go cheap. We seemed to have lucked into Butch, but that rarely happens and isn't the suggested strategy. Will hart boss up and pay good money, or go the cheap route?

If we are gonna pay:

Lawrence Frank: think he'd be a great recruiter and could fill his staff with guys who know the college game.

Shaka Smart: if you pony up enough he will leave VCU, I think he realizes he can't make that a consistent top 15 program the platform just isn't there.


Tommy Ammaker: he may or may not listen, but would at least be worth the call. He's another good character guy to keep the clean image, but with a resume a bit more impressive than Martin's.

If we're gonna go cheap:

Idk
 
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I do like the idea of Howland, but worry about some of his tactics. Also don't know if he could recruit like he did without being on the west coast.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Did he? I admittingly don't know, and most recruiting sites don't go back that far from what I can find. I don't think he put any guys into the league from Pitt, but I could be wrong.
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Chris Taft, Aaron Gray, Chevon Troutman, Brandin Knight, & Carl Krauser were all fine players at Pitt. Taft and Gray were drafted for sure.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Chris Taft, Aaron Gray, Chevon Troutman, Brandin Knight, & Carl Krauser were all fine players at Pitt. Taft and Gray were drafted for sure.
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Good to know, thanks for the info. I still worry a bit about his antics, but much like calipari he hadn't been busted yet so who knows.

He's a guy I don't think you'd have to pay a whole lot for, him and Frank would be high on my board.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I do like the idea of Howland, but worry about some of his tactics. Also don't know if he could recruit like he did without being on the west coast.
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If Howland keeps the Atlanta Celtics coach on his staff, he just might recruit Tennessee's sweet spot just fine. That guy pulled Atlantans Jordan Adams and Tony Parker - both guys who were Tennessee leans at one point - to UCLA.

Jordan Adams - who is averaging 20.2 ppg for UCLA - was the Oak Hill player who Pearl was visiting when the alleged "bump" took place the week after the emotional press conference.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Without 30 pages of comparing Pearl and Martin and another 15 with just Pearls name....who are your top 5 that would possible take this job?

1) Lawrence Frank (Tennessee ties, will not sniff a NBA coaching job anytime soon unlike the last time when we were searching for a coach, is unhappy in Brooklyn, worked with the AD during our last coaching search, runs an offense that would be highly successful at the college level IMO. Recruiting is questionable but NBA experience and his connections has to help.

2) Tim Floyd (a winner everywhere he's been. Hes just paying his dues for the Mayo situation that I believe wasn't really his fault. Would be an instant upgrade over what we have now, that's for sure!)

3) Steve Fisher (yeah I know...if we hire him why even bother firing Pearl? This guy is a great coach and I'm shocked he hasn't went somewhere by now. )

4) Gregg Marshall (just for fun and highly unlikely)

5) Rick Byrd (should be higher and I see Tennessee as the only job he'd consider. Several ties to the school and Knoxville.)
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I'd rather have Brandon Miller before any of the guys on that list mainly because he is young up and coming and gets the most out of his talent.
 
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I'd put Tommy Amaker at Harvard on the list - shaky at Michigan, but probably got that job too soon - kind like Cuonzo here. Seems to have really put it together at Harvard in a challenging environment.

Also, Bob Hoffman - the guy at Mercer - He's older at 53, but the guy has won 488 games as a college coach, coached in the ABA and NBDL and his team just carved us up in the NIT last year. Plus, at Mercer, he probably has developed a few Georgia recruiting contacts.

Shaun1985 said:
Without 30 pages of comparing Pearl and Martin and another 15 with just Pearls name....who are your top 5 that would possible take this job?

1) Lawrence Frank (Tennessee ties, will not sniff a NBA coaching job anytime soon unlike the last time when we were searching for a coach, is unhappy in Brooklyn, worked with the AD during our last coaching search, runs an offense that would be highly successful at the college level IMO. Recruiting is questionable but NBA experience and his connections has to help.

2) Tim Floyd (a winner everywhere he's been. Hes just paying his dues for the Mayo situation that I believe wasn't really his fault. Would be an instant upgrade over what we have now, that's for sure!)

3) Steve Fisher (yeah I know...if we hire him why even bother firing Pearl? This guy is a great coach and I'm shocked he hasn't went somewhere by now. )

4) Gregg Marshall (just for fun and highly unlikely)

5) Rick Byrd (should be higher and I see Tennessee as the only job he'd consider. Several ties to the school and Knoxville.)
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UTCVol said:
Howland is my favorite option at this point.
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Should be the first call IMO. Wouldn't take a lot of money to land him, and has as good a resume as anyone we could land if not better.

Frank and Amaker up there as well IMO. The part about Smart that scares me is it would require big time money and we'd be tied up in him for awhile, his predecessor isn't exactly working out like they thought.
 
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#218
You guys realize most of these coaches are pipe dreams? Chances are you'll have never heard of the coach. That's even if he's replaced which I'm not convinced of.
 
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#219
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InVOLuntary said:
You guys realize most of these coaches are pipe dreams? Chances are you'll have never heard of the coach. That's even if he's replaced which I'm not convinced of.
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I'm with you on the second part, unless it's a complete train wreck he likely sees year 4.

I'm simply talking hypothetically and not necessarily what I think is gonna happen. Howland is a very realistic option IMO, but that's just my 2 cents.
 
#220
#220
Howland has worse offense than Martin. He scored 50 a game with multiple NBA All Stars. How can anyone who hates Martin's O want Howland?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Fwiw quick math tells me his UCLA teams averaged over 70 a game during his tenure.
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And no one is happy with the 73 we average this year with way less talent. So why would that be good for Howland with multiple NBA All Stars. Quick math will tell you we average more than 70 during CM's tenure with 1/10 the talent UCLA gets.
 
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k-town_king said:
And no one is happy with the 73 we average this year with way less talent. So why would that be good for Howland with multiple NBA All Stars. Quick math will tell you we average more than 70 during CM's tenure with 1/10 the talent UCLA gets.
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Actually no it doesn't lol

And I don't care what the offense or defense looks like so long as you win, and that's something Howland has proven he knows how to do.
 
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